Gurkha Hate

[Malazan]

Being a noob, I was wondering why all the hate towards Gurkha. The only one I have ever smoked was a G3, and G5. The G3 I liked, the G5 liked to have killed me

[Ogre]

I can't say I "Hate" them. It's just a line that doesn't agree with my taste buds.

[44stampede]

Smoke a few more. It'll become more evident. That's how I found out not too long ago. They gave me a cigar hangover, dragon breath and I didn't enjoy 4/5 of the ones I did smoke (the other is just okay).
I do hear there are a couple good sticks here and there.

[Volusianator]

What if it becomes "evident" that it's his favorite cigar of all time? Is he then wrong or possibly is it that he may have different tastes than you?

To the OP, don't worry about the hate on any cigar, you smoke it, if you like it, great, if not, great. One of the reasons that there is more than one cigar company and that these companies make more than one cigar is that people tastes change. Do I like Gurkhas, no, I don't, do I bash on them, no I don't, not do I bash Acids or any other sticks that most find unpleasant. My favorite cigar may be your worst, your favorite may be my worst, and we're both right. In the end, smoke what you like and don't give two shits about what anybody else says.

Originally Posted by 44stampede

Smoke a few more. It'll become more evident.

[44stampede]

Originally Posted by Volusianator

What if it becomes "evident" that it's his favorite cigar of all time? Is he then wrong or possibly is it that he may have different tastes than you?

To the OP, don't worry about the hate on any cigar, you smoke it, if you like it, great, if not, great. One of the reasons that there is more than one cigar company and that these companies make more than one cigar is that people tastes change. Do I like Gurkhas, no, I don't, do I bash on them, no I don't, not do I bash Acids or any other sticks that most find unpleasant. My favorite cigar may be your worst, your favorite may be my worst, and we're both right. In the end, smoke what you like and don't give two shits about what anybody else says.

He posed the question, I answered. THought that was the purpose of the forum.

Because I say something doesn't make it "the final word". Just contributing my

[Volusianator]

Originally Posted by 44stampede

He posed the question, I answered. THought that was the purpose of the forum.

Because I say something doesn't make it "the final word". Just contributing my

Yep, you did answer and you answered telling him what he'd think of them. I guess there's no sense in letting someone make up their own mind about a product.

I've worked in a cigar shop for years, I've heard a thousand times people telling other customers what they'll like and not like based on their opinions. They're doing that customer a disservice by not finding out what THEY like instead of trying to push their favorites. Gurkha hate...stupid, if someone doesn't like their cigars, don't buy them, if someone doesn't like their business model, don't buy them, but why try convince someone else who's not as familiar with them that their bad without letting them try one with an open mind. Someone posted regarding a blind taste test, I'd love to see some of the haters do this.

People hate on Rocky Patel because he comes out with a new cigar every month, does this make his cigars bad? People are so in love with Pete Johnson (who is a good friend of mine and I'd tell him this to his face) yet he's also guilty of coming out with very limited hard to get cigars, yet he's a God? Shilala said he can't stomach a Tatuaje...should we all gang up on him and tell him his tastes suck because he doesn't like the hottest cigar brand on the planet. Hell no. He likes what he likes and he's right.

It'd be interesting to see how many on this forum cut their teeth smoking cigars on Acids and then see how many of them have smoked one after two, three or four years into cigars. How many of them honestly bash Acid now? Drew Estate makes a freakin' good cigar, their tobaccos are very good, their construction is top notch. Their VP Fabien is a VERY good friend of mine, would I smoke an Acid, no phucking way, I don't like them, but nobody comes close to selling as many of them at my store than I do because in the end, my job is to get every guest THE cigar that I think they'll have the best chance of liking, unless they come in with a selection in mind and know what they want.

Most of the hate comes from newer smokers, 1-5 or 6 years or so, once you get past that point, you just start to understand that in the beginning way to much is made of cigars, HTF's and LE's. what you like what you don't and trying to push your agenda on someone else. I chased HTF Opus for years, and you know what I found, they taste like Opus, so I'll stick with my Fuente Fuente's, No.4's and No.2's. I could care less if someone likes the cigars I smoke, they're not smoking them, and I could care less what someone else is smoking. Do I like to sit next to someone smoking a Kuba Kuba, Moontrance or Java Mint, no really, but if the conversation is good I could honestly care less...they may not like the smell of my AF13 either, but who am I to judge.

Originally Posted by Volusianator

Yep, you did answer and you answered telling him what he'd think of them. I guess there's no sense in letting someone make up their own mind about a product.

I've worked in a cigar shop for years, I've heard a thousand times people telling other customers what they'll like and not like based on their opinions. They're doing that customer a disservice by not finding out what THEY like instead of trying to push their favorites. Gurkha hate...stupid, if someone doesn't like their cigars, don't buy them, if someone doesn't like their business model, don't buy them, but why try convince someone else who's not as familiar with them that their bad without letting them try one with an open mind. Someone posted regarding a blind taste test, I'd love to see some of the haters do this.

People hate on Rocky Patel because he comes out with a new cigar every month, does this make his cigars bad? People are so in love with Pete Johnson (who is a good friend of mine and I'd tell him this to his face) yet he's also guilty of coming out with very limited hard to get cigars, yet he's a God? Shilala said he can't stomach a Tatuaje...should we all gang up on him and tell him his tastes suck because he doesn't like the hottest cigar brand on the planet. Hell no. He likes what he likes and he's right.

It'd be interesting to see how many on this forum cut their teeth smoking cigars on Acids and then see how many of them have smoked one after two, three or four years into cigars. How many of them honestly bash Acid now? Drew Estate makes a freakin' good cigar, their tobaccos are very good, their construction is top notch. Their VP Fabien is a VERY good friend of mine, would I smoke an Acid, no phucking way, I don't like them, but nobody comes close to selling as many of them at my store than I do because in the end, my job is to get every guest THE cigar that I think they'll have the best chance of liking, unless they come in with a selection in mind and know what they want.

Most of the hate comes from newer smokers, 1-5 or 6 years or so, once you get past that point, you just start to understand that in the beginning way to much is made of cigars, HTF's and LE's. what you like what you don't and trying to push your agenda on someone else. I chased HTF Opus for years, and you know what I found, they taste like Opus, so I'll stick with my Fuente Fuente's, No.4's and No.2's. I could care less if someone likes the cigars I smoke, they're not smoking them, and I could care less what someone else is smoking. Do I like to sit next to someone smoking a Kuba Kuba, Moontrance or Java Mint, no really, but if the conversation is good I could honestly care less...they may not like the smell of my AF13 either, but who am I to judge.

I agree with what you are saying but in all fairness to 44stampede he simply told him to keep smoking them and he would find out which I am sure he will. He never told him they are garbage cigars give up on them now and smoke something else.

[Emjaysmash]

I don't hate gurkha. I will smoke them once in a blue moon. They just don't float my boat.

[emopunker2004]

One reason is because of the supposed MSRP they set on them is outrageous.

[Malazan]

Yeah, I see they actually have cigars that go for 750.00, and 1150.00 apiece

His Majesty's Reserve

1st Production Black Dragon

[oooo35980]

Worth every penny I'm sure...

[Jbailey]

Originally Posted by oooo35980

Worth every penny I'm sure...

Worth maybe a penny.

[44stampede]

Originally Posted by oooo35980

Worth every penny I'm sure...

I was going to say that was a good deal.

Seriously though the guys/gals doing the marketing must be very good. Not sure how else you can consistently put out an inferior product and make money. There must be a good market for the taste challenged.

[PuffPuffGive1]

I've only smoked the Grand Reserve and thought it was plain and bland. I find it unflattering that they're constantly coming out with new lines to further add to the 20+ lines they have now. Kind of defeats the exclusivity of their brand and quality imo.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by PuffPuffGive1

I find it unflattering that they're constantly coming out with new lines to further add to the 20+ lines they have now. Kind of defeats the exclusivity of their brand and quality imo.

We're talking about Gurkha, not Tatuaje...

[Mattso3000]

Slipped a good one in at the B&M today...one of the other regulars was extolling the virtue of the Gurkha. I told him I'd never met a Gurkha I didn't not like...

[gnbikes]

I used to enjoy the original Legends and Centurian XX. Unfortunately the current versions of these cigars are not even close to the originals. The newer blends do nothing for me.
Garry

[icehog3]

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

At one point Simon...The Black Dragon story began in 2006 when it hit the market with the hefty price tag of $1,150.00 per cigar, the most expensive cigar ever made. Only 5 hand-carved camel bone boxes of 100 cigars were produced, making this stick very, very limited. Must have been paying for that hand-carved camel bone, because today the Black Dragon can be had (depending on vitola) for between $ 7.50 (robusto) to $ 17.50 (tubo).

MMMMM......Camel bone.

Originally Posted by dave

Gurkha hate is a somewhat silly phenomenom if you ask me. So much of what bothers people about Gurkha has little to do with the flavor... of the cigars.

And for some it is that flavor, a mix of dirt, and, well.....more dirt
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Originally Posted by icehog3

Puff Puff Puke, Tom