Undercrown FFP

lenguamor · 11-18-2012, 09:39 PM

Those who know me know that I gravitate away from clown cigars. But once in a while a cigar comes along which transcends the norm; this is one of them.

This'll be short and sweet, I didn't take anything but mental notes.

I sat on this one since last year. I wanted it to have time to acclimate to my humidor, but then I buried it and forgot. Just found it and it is its turn to burn.

The construction is flawless; the wrapper is an enticing, dark color; not quite espresso, but darker than chocolate. Pre-light, the fragrance is heavenly; raisins, wheat, spices, a funky, yeasty quality.

First third is nice but just a bit muddled. It takes a minute to get into a groove, but when it does it's a gentle wash of flavor on the tongue. Dried apricots and warm spices on a foundation of graham cracker.

The rest is consistent with this profile, but around the middle slightly sweet berry flavors come into play. It remains this way but intensifies considerably in the last inch or so.

I burned my fingers on this baby.

The size is enormous, and I would prefer it be more reasonable; it does help that it is relatively short in length. But perhaps the depth and breadth of flavor would not be possible if anything were changed, and in that case I'd prefer that it remain as it is—one of the few of this ring gauge about which I can say that.

I've had some outstanding cigars this year, but this ranks third, maybe second best of them. Keep up the great work, Jonathan and company!

iaMkcK · 11-18-2012, 10:37 PM

I can't wait 'til next month. Gettin' me a box of them bad boys. I imagine my review will be much like yours: 9 parts smoking 1 part reviewing. :-D Nice review!!

lenguamor · 11-21-2012, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaMkcK

I can't wait 'til next month. Gettin' me a box of them bad boys. I imagine my review will be much like yours: 9 parts smoking 1 part reviewing. :-D Nice review!!

More like 5 parts smoking, 4 parts drinking and 1 part reviewing!

Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

cmitch · 11-21-2012, 04:31 PM

Are they being released in the states next month? If not, then this is a cruel and useless review!

Don Fernando · 11-21-2012, 04:34 PM

this is the Liga FFP, there is no Undercrown FFP. The Undergrown pig that got released as a Netherlands exclusive was the size of a normal Flying Pig, not a Feral Flying Pig.

iaMkcK · 11-21-2012, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

this is the Liga FFP, there is no Undercrown FFP. The Undergrown pig that got released as a Netherlands exclusive was the size of a normal Flying Pig, not a Feral Flying Pig.

+1

JenksAnejo · 11-21-2012, 05:44 PM

Yes what Don Fernando said!

The Undercrown FP is an extremely HTF smoke, while the Liga Privada FFP is relatively easy to find as they are not a limited release.

maninblack · 11-21-2012, 07:17 PM

The last one I smoked was a bit of a let down. Flavors just weren't there for me. But I got 4 more, so hopefully that changes.

lenguamor · 11-22-2012, 08:22 PM

That's the Undercrown logo. That's what I was going by.

JenksAnejo · 11-22-2012, 09:09 PM

I think the U stands for Unico.

maninblack · 11-22-2012, 09:09 PM

Actually that's the Liga Privada logo. The Undercrown logo is different. Has a lions head over a crown.

lenguamor · 11-23-2012, 04:36 PM

My bad. Can I impose on a ToE member to change the thread title to Liga Privada in place of Undercrown? Thanks.

crgcpro · 11-26-2012, 08:53 PM

I was lucky enough to get 6 of the 150 boxes released of the UC Pig. I shared them with several buddies and now I am down to one single and 1 sealed box that may not get opened for a while! I'm the resident Pig ho at my other spot and rank them in this order:

1. FFP
2. UC Pig
3. #9 Pig
4. T52 Pig

VersionX · 11-28-2012, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crgcpro

I was lucky enough to get 6 of the 150 boxes released of the UC Pig.

What kind of black magic did you use to make this occur? Whatever it is, I need to study it!

ZachF88 · 11-29-2012, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crgcpro

I was lucky enough to get 6 of the 150 boxes released of the UC Pig.

210 or so was the final box count of these. I have physically touched/ordered 4 boxes of them. One box was sent down under, while 2 3/4 boxes were distributed to friends. It was nice having a contact in Holland. JD wasn't too happy about seeing them stateside (he signed two of the boxes).

11-29-2012, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachF88

210 or so was the final box count of these. I have physically touched/ordered 4 boxes of them. One box was sent down under, while 2 3/4 boxes were distributed to friends. It was nice having a contact in Holland. JD wasn't too happy about seeing them stateside (he signed two of the boxes).

Why is that? He not happy some American's got their hands on his tasty sticks?

ZachF88 · 11-29-2012, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robulous78

Why is that? He not happy some American's got their hands on his tasty sticks?

Drew Estate did them especially for the Dutch market. He was a little upset, but not to the point where he really cared (if that makes sense).

For the US market, he said the demand is there, but the flying pig vitola is such a hard, demanding job to roll, and the shortage of tobacco is making it impossible.

P.S. - I do have an empty box of UC FP's that's signed to him. I meant it to be a raffle piece and had him write "To The Winner" If anyone wants to take this box off my hands and do a raffle for charity or something, that would be great (I ran out of funds after being unemployed for 8 months). Just PM me.

Sorry for thread jacking!

Don Fernando · 11-30-2012, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachF88

210 or so was the final box count of these.

nope. 150 boxes made it to The Netherlands, no more. And I know, I sold all 150 of them.

VersionX · 11-30-2012, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

nope. 150 boxes made it to The Netherlands, no more. And I know, I sold all 150 of them.

150 boxes? Good lord that's super-limited. Whoever got their hands on those should consider themselves very, very fortunate.

Ubiquitous · 11-27-2012, 04:04 AM

These are great sticks!

11-18-2012, 09:39 PM	#1
lenguamor puta por Ninfas! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joe Location: The 305 again! Posts: 1,030 Trading: (23)	Undercrown FFP Those who know me know that I gravitate away from clown cigars. But once in a while a cigar comes along which transcends the norm; this is one of them. This'll be short and sweet, I didn't take anything but mental notes. I sat on this one since last year. I wanted it to have time to acclimate to my humidor, but then I buried it and forgot. Just found it and it is its turn to burn. The construction is flawless; the wrapper is an enticing, dark color; not quite espresso, but darker than chocolate. Pre-light, the fragrance is heavenly; raisins, wheat, spices, a funky, yeasty quality. First third is nice but just a bit muddled. It takes a minute to get into a groove, but when it does it's a gentle wash of flavor on the tongue. Dried apricots and warm spices on a foundation of graham cracker. The rest is consistent with this profile, but around the middle slightly sweet berry flavors come into play. It remains this way but intensifies considerably in the last inch or so. I burned my fingers on this baby. The size is enormous, and I would prefer it be more reasonable; it does help that it is relatively short in length. But perhaps the depth and breadth of flavor would not be possible if anything were changed, and in that case I'd prefer that it remain as it is—one of the few of this ring gauge about which I can say that. I've had some outstanding cigars this year, but this ranks third, maybe second best of them. Keep up the great work, Jonathan and company! __________________

11-18-2012, 10:37 PM	#2
iaMkcK Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Jarrett Location: SoCal Posts: 570 Trading: (8)	Re: Undercrown FFP I can't wait 'til next month. Gettin' me a box of them bad boys. I imagine my review will be much like yours: 9 parts smoking 1 part reviewing. :-D Nice review!!

11-21-2012, 04:31 PM	#4
cmitch Heads up get down Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Clayton Location: NW Alabama by the river Posts: 2,720 Trading: (25)	Re: Undercrown FFP Are they being released in the states next month? If not, then this is a cruel and useless review! __________________ No matter what one's status is in society, cigars are the great equalizer where the affluent and common share a love for the leaf. - Me.

11-21-2012, 04:34 PM	#5
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,070 Trading: (29)	Re: Undercrown FFP this is the Liga FFP, there is no Undercrown FFP. The Undergrown pig that got released as a Netherlands exclusive was the size of a normal Flying Pig, not a Feral Flying Pig. __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

11-21-2012, 05:44 PM	#7
JenksAnejo Thunder Up Join Date: Dec 2011 First Name: Jarrod Location: Thunder Country Posts: 1,332 Trading: (51)	Re: Undercrown FFP Yes what Don Fernando said! The Undercrown FP is an extremely HTF smoke, while the Liga Privada FFP is relatively easy to find as they are not a limited release.

11-21-2012, 07:17 PM	#8
maninblack Will smoke for food Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Kevin Location: Where the hoot owls f$ck the chickens Posts: 10,637 Trading: (80)	Re: Undercrown FFP The last one I smoked was a bit of a let down. Flavors just weren't there for me. But I got 4 more, so hopefully that changes. __________________ Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

11-22-2012, 08:22 PM	#9
lenguamor puta por Ninfas! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joe Location: The 305 again! Posts: 1,030 Trading: (23)	Re: Undercrown FFP That's the Undercrown logo. That's what I was going by. __________________

11-22-2012, 09:09 PM	#10
JenksAnejo Thunder Up Join Date: Dec 2011 First Name: Jarrod Location: Thunder Country Posts: 1,332 Trading: (51)	Re: Undercrown FFP I think the U stands for Unico.

11-22-2012, 09:09 PM	#11
maninblack Will smoke for food Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Kevin Location: Where the hoot owls f$ck the chickens Posts: 10,637 Trading: (80)	Re: Undercrown FFP Actually that's the Liga Privada logo. The Undercrown logo is different. Has a lions head over a crown. __________________ Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

11-23-2012, 04:36 PM	#12
lenguamor puta por Ninfas! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joe Location: The 305 again! Posts: 1,030 Trading: (23)	Re: Undercrown FFP My bad. Can I impose on a ToE member to change the thread title to Liga Privada in place of Undercrown? Thanks. __________________

11-26-2012, 08:53 PM	#13
crgcpro PGA Professional Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: Bart Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 108 Trading: (1)	Re: Undercrown FFP I was lucky enough to get 6 of the 150 boxes released of the UC Pig. I shared them with several buddies and now I am down to one single and 1 sealed box that may not get opened for a while! I'm the resident Pig ho at my other spot and rank them in this order: 1. FFP 2. UC Pig 3. #9 Pig 4. T52 Pig

11-27-2012, 04:04 AM	#20
Ubiquitous Living life at top speed Join Date: Jul 2012 First Name: Travis Location: WA Posts: 253 Trading: (6)	Re: Undercrown FFP These are great sticks!

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