Fausto by Tatuaje

[maninblack]

Maybe I'm a little behind, but I saw his new ad for these on FB. Very interested now to say the least. I've heard they are a T110 blend. Anyone know anything else?

[Ismith75]

"This is a cigar that has been long in the works, it’s based off of the ever-popular T110 blend (a limited release for a shop in Hawaii), the plan is to have it start in three sizes, although none of them are the original Petit Robusto that T110 was, instead Fausto should be out in:
F133 5 1/4 x 52
F152 6 x 50
F171 6 3/4 x 48
Pete also indicated that there were four or so other sizes being tested, we shall see. This is scheduled to hit shelves in July."

[CoreyD]

Originally Posted by Ismith75

Pete also indicated that there were four or so other sizes being tested, we shall see. This is scheduled to hit shelves in July."

I'll test out his cigars.

[Bill86]

If this cigar WAS the T110 I would buy a box no doubt. I loved the size and blend. These newer sizes don't interest me at all.

[Volusianator]

I start to worry about Pete becoming the new Rocky Patrel. Every month seems to bring a new blend.

[pinotguy]

Originally Posted by Volusianator

I start to worry about Pete becoming the new Rocky Patrel. Every month seems to bring a new blend.

Pete's connection and relationship with Pepin (and Jaime) will prevent that from happening.

Yes - he does release a lot of LE sticks (so does Viaje) but a lot of these are a very small production run for one shop that has supported him over the years. Examples of this are the Cabaiguan WCD 120, El Triunfador SODO, Barclay-Rex 100th Anni., OR T110, Anarchy, and the most recent - Black Label Petit Lancero. Essentially, Pete is rewarding those B&M's (and their owners) for their loyalty with a special stick that is only available at those respective locations. This concept appeals to me and I admit to buying into the hype that some of these LE's create, so I "chase" them to a degree, though not always.

To my mind, this is the complete anti-thesis of what Rocky is trying to do. My perception of RP is that he is manuevering to become a major force through quantity of brands/blends and his new B&M/lounge campaign. It doesn't appear that Pete has this intention for Tatuaje (or his other brands).

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by Volusianator

I start to worry about Pete becoming the new Rocky Patrel. Every month seems to bring a new blend.

QFT

I don't care what the reason is ....it's getting ridiculous.

What pinot guy said.....I completely disagree.

Viaje

S&B
Oro
Platino
50-50 Red
50-50 Black
Exclusivo
Summerfest
Satori
Holiday Blend
TNT
Double Edge Sword

I believe give or take one or two that is it.

Tatuaje

Pork tenderloin
Brown label
Red label
white label
Drac
frank
boris
face
T110
Barclay
Pork Chop
outlaw
La verite
Black tubo
Red tubo
black jar
Reserva
East
west
anarchy
sodo
Cabaiguan
La Riqueza
RC 233
RC 184
Black Label PL

I'm sure there is at least 5-10 more I'm missing.

Excessive much? I think Petes attempting to compete with Gurkha and Rocky.

Another great point is Viaje does seasonals every year. So you can actually get the cigars again and the prices stay VERY reasonable. Cannot say the same for Tatuaje.

[Dukeuni]

Originally Posted by Bill86

QFT

Tatuaje

Pork tenderloin
Brown label
Red label
white label
Drac
frank
boris
face
T110
Barclay
Pork Chop
outlaw
La verite
Black tubo
Red tubo
black jar
Reserva
East
west
anarchy
sodo
Cabaiguan
La Riqueza
RC 233
RC 184
Black Label PL

I know the point you are making,
but when I see this list, all I can think
about is DANG, I wish I had boxes
of all of those.

Man, I forgot how many amazing sticks Pete has made.

[marge796]

Originally Posted by Dukeuni

I know the point you are making,
but when I see this list, all I can think
about is DANG, I wish I had boxes
of all of those.

Man, I forgot how many amazing sticks Pete has made.

Right on brother! As long as Pete out does himself with each release and has a loyal following who cares how many lines he has out there.





Chris.....

[Bageland2000]

Anybody have a link to more information?

[colimo]

and the most recent - Black Label Petit Lancero"

WHERE is this one...have not heard of it

[pinotguy]

Originally Posted by colimo

and the most recent - Black Label Petit Lancero"

WHERE is this one...have not heard of it

This is one of the single-shop LE's Pete is releasing this year. It was made for Tobacco Grove in MN and is the fore-runner to a regular production stick that will be made available later this year. The LE version will be slightly different (at least in appearance) from the regular one. These are sold out but you should be able to find some on the secondary market.

If you missed out on this particular LE, not to worry as Pete is gearing up to release the Federal Cigar 90th Anni. stick in the next couple of months. This follows the concept for the Barclay-Rex Anniversary smoke from late last year.

[issues]

Originally Posted by pinotguy

This is one of the single-shop LE's Pete is releasing this year. It was made for Tobacco Grove in MN and is the fore-runner to a regular production stick that will be made available later this year. The LE version will be slightly different (at least in appearance) from the regular one. These are sold out but you should be able to find some on the secondary market.

If you missed out on this particular LE, not to worry as Pete is gearing up to release the Federal Cigar 90th Anni. stick in the next couple of months. This follows the concept for the Barclay-Rex Anniversary smoke from late last year.

This is actually going to be a regular production cigar. The pre-release is only for Tobacco Grove. I believe they will be available in most places after IPCPR.

Originally Posted by Pete Johnson

This is an early release for a retailer in a cold very high tax state slated for this month. I am planning on having this as a full production cigar releasing to the rest of the country at the trade show. The wrapper on the early release will cover the foot. The general release will be cut clean and the box might look slightly different. Still deciding on that part.

On Topic, the F171 sounds mighty tasty to me!!!

[Starz26]

Originally Posted by colimo

and the most recent - Black Label Petit Lancero"

WHERE is this one...have not heard of it

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=40953

All sold out now though

This is THE cigar I'll buy a box of each size of...

Yeah...but hands down...some of Pete's LE's are some of the best NC's ever produced IMHO. I don't feel that way about any of the Viaje's

[shilala]

Originally Posted by klipsch

Yeah...but hands down...some of Pete's LE's are some of the best NC's ever produced IMHO. I don't feel that way about any of the Viaje's

See, I don't think either are worth my time, and I've given them more than a fair shot.
Once again, smoke what ya like...

Originally Posted by shilala

See, I don't think either are worth my time, and I've given them more than a fair shot.
Once again, smoke what ya like...

I guess I'm not smoking what you are...

cg fausto won't be released this year...

[pinotguy]

Originally Posted by Bill86

QFT

I don't care what the reason is ....it's getting ridiculous.

Tatuaje

Pork tenderloin - single store LE
Brown label - core line
Red label - core line
white label - defunct core line (soon to be re-introduced)
Drac - seasonal LE
frank - seasonal LE
boris - seasonal LE
face - seasonal LE
T110 - single store LE
Barclay - single store LE
Pork Chop - single store LE
outlaw - single store LE
La verite - annual LE concept cigar
Black tubo - line extension
Red tubo - line extension
black jar - original release LE, no longer made
Reserva - core line
East - regional LE, no longer made
west - regional LE, no longer made
anarchy - single store LE
sodo - single store LE
Cabaiguan - core line
La Riqueza - core line
RC 233 - line extension
RC 184 - line extension
Black Label PL - single store LE, then regular production

I'm sure there is at least 5-10 more I'm missing.

Excessive much? I think Petes attempting to compete with Gurkha and Rocky.

Another great point is Viaje does seasonals every year. So you can actually get the cigars again and the prices stay VERY reasonable. Cannot say the same for Tatuaje.

You're missing an important distinction with your list of Tats. Looking at the sticks you've mentioned, about half are LE's, either single-store, regional (Eastie and Westie), or a "seasonal", in the case of the Monster/Actor series. There are also several line extension sticks (the two Tubos, the RC's, and the Black Label PL) on your list as well. Do those really qualify as a new, seperate blend or brand?

Originally Posted by Bill86

I've honestly only been impressed with about 4 Tatuajes. I also find their consistency
sucks. Their prices are pretty piss poor too. Viaje's are usually all around $10-$12 making them much more affordable. Tatuaje's are quite regularly $15-$16 (all the monster series, black tubos) or they are WAY too limited. I also find Tat limiteds to be gouged horrendously while Viaje's still stay close to what people have paid. Also a good point I've only had Tatuajes wrappers burst, no other cigar has done this.

I agree that even in the fairly recent past, the consistency level and, at times, the construction of Tatuaje has not been up to snuff. However, I'd submit that within the last year, this seems to have been addressed and the box-to-box consistency over that period has made a marked improvement, especially within the core lines.

Pricing will always be a debatable issue. The Monsters have always been MSRP'd at $13. Depending on what state they are located in (taxes, etc) and their individual value system, some retailers do charge more per stick. Prior to The Face, this was probably more of a problem because there were a lot less made. Pete had more of The Face produced, so availability was better and you saw fewer gougers.

As far as price gouging for Tat LE's on the secondary market, I'm not sure what to tell you. This happens all the time (give the cult wine scene a look-see) and I can't see how that should be a reflection on the producer.