Supplements you use- bodybuilding/weightloss

[hotreds]

Looks like various threads mention these, but going thru several hundred pages to find them is excessive. So, what supplements do you take? There are SO many available, and probably 90% thin only your wallet. Any inmates have success taking supplements?

[icehog3]

Hugh, which are you interested in, bodybuilding or weightloss?

[shvictor]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Hugh, which are you interested in, bodybuilding or weightloss?

I'm interested in weightloss also?

[hotreds]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Hugh, which are you interested in, bodybuilding or weightloss?

Both, actually, don't think they need be mutually exclusive.

[jmsremax]

Another serious question....do you want to gain mass naturally or with enhancers?

There are PHs, creatine, or simple whey isolates that can work with the proper diet, but some are more extreme/quicker results. Same question in regards to your goals for weight loss. I assume you are planning on bulking up in the winter and leaning out for summer?

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by hotreds

Both, actually, don't think they need be mutually exclusive.

I have never used a supplement for weight loss, so I don't want to confuse the conversation with my choices of supplements, Hugh. You might get more specific advice if you let us know what your goals are, short term and long term.

[T.G]

"HGH works great!"

(signed)
-B*rry B*nds

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by T.G

"HGH works great!"

(signed)
-B*rry B*nds

So if I juice that stuff like 3x a day I can break the home run record? Does it work for say ....hockey or basketball? Or is it a strictly baseball thing?

Jokes aside I would also like to know what everyone takes for the same weightloss/muscle mass gain. I need to lose about 15-20 pounds of pure beer weight.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Bill86

So if I juice that stuff like 3x a day I can break the home run record? Does it work for say ....hockey or basketball? Or is it a strictly baseball thing?

I dunno, but your hat band size can go up by 1-3/4 and your shoes by 4....

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by T.G

"HGH works great!"

(signed)
-B*rry B*nds

If you got a least 6 months, not needle adverse, and have a $600 a month budget. Testosterone is more effective and can raise HGH levels as well.

I don't think Bonds used HGH, just steroids? HGH would give him fat loss which it appears did not happen to him.

Originally Posted by kaisersozei

And I stopped drinking beer Sun-Thurs for a year. That was probably the biggest "supplement" I didn't take that did the trick!

Dropping the booze is a big time weight loser! I drew a line in the sand, and the booze stays!

[T.G]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

If you got a least 6 months, not needle adverse, and have a $600 a month budget. Testosterone is more effective and can raise HGH levels as well.

I don't think Bonds used HGH, just steroids? HGH would give him fat loss which it appears did not happen to him.

You're probably right. It wasn't meant to be a factual assessment of what he took...

[hotreds]

Interesting info, peeps. I guess at my advanced age(53) I no longer feel it possible to be an "Arnold" bodybuilder type. My goal is to be physically fit. I have recently started on PACE(similar to HIIT) and am looking to get my diet in shape. I need to lose 100 lbs.

I am afraid of some of the thermogenic supplements because I don't want a heart attack! I do have a pace-maker, so I need to be somewhat careful with what I ingest siupplement wise.

Most medical web pages poo poo supplements, as do many MDs. Yet, some do seem to work! I understand creatine has gotten good vibes, but you need to take such a huge amount in the loading phase! And, I have read that it's a no no for diabetics.

Right now I am using a whey protein shake 3 times a week after my workout. I also just bought a bottle of BSN Syntha-6 Protein Powder, which has gotten good reviews on Amazon, and I believe a few inmates have mentioned it positively here as well.

You can drive yourself nuts by reading all the info/options that are available- and many are simply hype and a waste of money.

Thanks to all who are responding here- I trust my brothers and their words of wisdom!

[T.G]

Originally Posted by hotreds

I am afraid of some of the thermogenic supplements because I don't want a heart attack!

Or worse. I tried one of the supposedly natural ones years ago (I forget the brand), then had to take a blood test after a few weeks, the numbers were so out of whack it was scary. The Doctor said it was a good coincidence that it was caught, as he felt that continuing would have been putting my liver at risk for permanent damage. He also implied that drinking an entire fifth of booze a day would have been considerably less damaging.

[jmsremax]

Honestly, if you are looking to be fit I'd say the best way to do that is keep things simple. Eat healthy is the hardest thing for most people so if you can stay on top of this you are off to a great start.

Next, I'd say all you need is a multi vitamin, whey isolate, and some BCAAs on lifting days. I would avoid supplements that have creatine or a stimulant in it. I also like to bring a banana for some extra potassium.

Finally, try to limit your consumption of beer.

I can certainly get more detailed if you like, but in my experiences (PHs, creatine, stimulants) the best results for me were the basics....clearly everyone's anatomy is different.

[kaisersozei]

I've never been a fat guy, but I converted significant fat % and gained muscle mass with a combination of whey isolate protein & NO-Xplode (a nitric oxide + creatine + amino acid + caffeine vasodilator), also supplemented with a multivitamin 2x/day. All while doing intense cardio and strength workouts 6x/week on a 2600 calorie/day nutrition plan.

And I stopped drinking beer Sun-Thurs for a year. That was probably the biggest "supplement" I didn't take that did the trick!

[jmsremax]

NO Xplode is a great intro into creatine however it can be an issue for some due to the caffeine. Limiting consumption of alcohol is one of the best ways to lose weight.

[Krish the Fish]

When I'm working out, I usually just use ON 100% Whey and Animal Packs. I have the ON 100% Casein and Animal Cuts, but I had enough protein through my diet that I didn't need the casein, and Animal Cuts never really did much for me.

When I get back into p90x, I might get NO-xplod just to see how much improvement I get.

The common answer here seems to be cardio, lifting, diet (not dieting), and a strict regimen. I have taken several biology, anatomy, and physiology classes, and one intense nutrition class geared for the medical profession, and all of these would agree with this common answer. There are few supplements that can do for you what proper nutrition, your own body, and proper exercise cannot. In fact, most supplements, protein especially, can be quite harmful, and none of them work without exercise and proper nutrition.

I am SURE I will get flak on this, but let me say this first before I say what I have just started taking: I am on a diet and exercise plan that I built myself that consists of sticking to about a 2,000 calories per day limit and working out for 1-2 hours daily with one hour of cardio and one hour of weightlifting. Just a few days ago I decided to just try out Hydroxycut. I am NOT taking this in hopes of it being a "magical weightloss pill", I am merely taking it in addition to my diet and exercise plan to see if it helps curb my appetite and aid me in keeping to my daily caloric intake. I have read hundreds of positive and negative reviews of this stuff and have simply decided to try it for myself. I figured a $15 investment for 1-2 months supply of this stuff is worth it if it helps, and if it doesn't, well, Hydroxycut just earned a one-time buyer. I'll let you know if a few weeks to a month if it is working out for me!

[Coach Deg]

Originally Posted by mariogolbee

The common answer here seems to be cardio, lifting, diet (not dieting), and a strict regimen. I have taken several biology, anatomy, and physiology classes, and one intense nutrition class geared for the medical profession, and all of these would agree with this common answer. There are few supplements that can do for you what proper nutrition, your own body, and proper exercise cannot. In fact, most supplements, protein especially, can be quite harmful, and none of them work without exercise and proper nutrition.

I have been coaching football and weightlifting for 20+ years. I have a degree in phys Ed as well as a biology degree. As Mario said there is not a supplement that works without exercise and proper diet. Also remember the supplement industry is not regulated by the FDA. Advocare is the only company that submits their products to the FDA. They also have a line that is approved by the NFL and NCAA( this is why they can sponsor a bowl game). I do not sponsor, work for, or use advocare. I just have to be up to date and informed whe kids and parents ask. So please becareful. And good-luck!