One way to fix fax telemarketers

[Blueface]

Ever get ticked off at those nonsense faxes with offers that simply just use up an expensive ink cartridge?

Well, I am tired of the do not call list not working and complaints to them.
After three days of receiving the same junk fax, and after two replies to them asking to remove me (as these idiots don't have an 800 number to call as they should and instead provide a toll fax number), I now resorted to sending them an entire manual to my stereo system, every page, to include the troubleshooting section and corporate information for contact.

Mind you, I have already previously advised them to remove me on several occasions.

Next, my video camera manual.

After that, anything else I can find that is lengthy, that will use a lot of paper for them and a whole lot of ink, that I may have laying around the house ready to use.

For me, it is no trouble at all to load it on my fax as it won't cost me a dime as my calls are included in my monthly bill and not additional charges.

Any other great ideas out there?

[Don Fernando]

Glue some pieces of black paper together Carlos so you create a loop and fax that for an hour or two.

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

Glue some pieces of black paper together Carlos so you create a loop and fax that for an hour or two.

+1

[mmblz]

also you can get software to receive faxes and save them as pdf.
then only print if you actually need it
(requires a computer to be hooked up and waiting all the time though)

Print up the discussions from CA on whether or not to keep the celo on, how to season a new humi, what's a great cigar for under 50 cents. They'll either get tired and leave you alone or they sign up here and start bombing you with cigars

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by mmblz

also you can get software to receive faxes and save them as pdf.
then only print if you actually need it
(requires a computer to be hooked up and waiting all the time though)

Which is the problem with thinking we are inflicting pain on the sender by returning faxes. These faxes typically come not from physical machines but fax software. We have used this type of technology for a long time. Inbound faxes are received and stored as PDF's. With the advent of IP phone technology this type of operation can scale up pretty massively for outbound blitzes with little means of doing much to them in response.

The PDF's do take up space though so virtual faxing to them enough content could chew up their disk space assuming they actually set up to receive and or store the results.

Send pictures of your A$$.

[HK3-]

Yeah definately the "F-you Fax" is the top dog. Take about 15-20 black pages and fax away... will eat their ink cartridge up in no time flat.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by replicant_argent

The outgoing fax # they have on the header probably isn't a real #, Carlos. Does *69 work on faxes?

Pete, it was working fine yesterday when I responded.
I didn't send to the fax number it came from.
I sent it to the business fax number for the one who wants me to contact them to get insurance with them.

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Which is the problem with thinking we are inflicting pain on the sender by returning faxes. These faxes typically come not from physical machines but fax software. We have used this type of technology for a long time. Inbound faxes are received and stored as PDF's. With the advent of IP phone technology this type of operation can scale up pretty massively for outbound blitzes with little means of doing much to them in response.

The PDF's do take up space though so virtual faxing to them enough content could chew up their disk space assuming they actually set up to receive and or store the results.

Send pictures of your A$$.

[CigarNut]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Pete, it was working fine yesterday when I responded.
I didn't send to the fax number it came from.
I sent it to the business fax number for the one who wants me to contact them to get insurance with them.

Keep us posted as to whether this works for you!

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Which is the problem with thinking we are inflicting pain on the sender by returning faxes. These faxes typically come not from physical machines but fax software. We have used this type of technology for a long time. Inbound faxes are received and stored as PDF's. With the advent of IP phone technology this type of operation can scale up pretty massively for outbound blitzes with little means of doing much to them in response.

The PDF's do take up space though so virtual faxing to them enough content could chew up their disk space assuming they actually set up to receive and or store the results.

Send pictures of your A$$.

I agree with Da Klugz, show them a picture of your A$$ and send it over and over again! That is awesome!

Scan that hand written manuscript you wrote on the topic "How to make your lawn 10x greener than all your neighbors, and how many minutes every hour you need to trim it with nose-hair clippers" Thats gotta be a lengthy book.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by DougBushBC

Scan that hand written manuscript you wrote on the topic "How to make your lawn 10x greener than all your neighbors, and how many minutes every hour you need to trim it with nose-hair clippers" Thats gotta be a lengthy book.

I don't know Doug, you are sounding jealous to me.
That manual is actually quite short.
Start of manual: Call Scott's and sign up for their monthly service.
End of manual.

[mosesbotbol]

The biggest ink eater is DOS window screens, send a fax full of those.

[Blueface]

I think some other folks may be doing something similar.
If you now dial their number, the line goes silent for a bit, then dials, then says if you would like to make a call, hang up and dial again.
They must have run out of paper and ink.

[replicant_argent]

The outgoing fax # they have on the header probably isn't a real #, Carlos. Does *69 work on faxes?

Awesome thinking! I hope it works.

[MajorCaptSilly]

Most of my clients are using software based faxing (Zetafax, etc) vs standard fax machines for incoming faxes. You will be sending them a big pdf and not using any ink.


MCS

[poker]

http://www.junkfax.org/fax/action/getEven.html

Not sure if this part is real or not but found this interesting:

Step #4
If you want to take matters into your own hands and don't mind spending a bunch of hours to do that, you can sue in small claims court. I can tell you that small claims works. For example, I got 16 faxes from First Chartered Investments and after a 15 minute hearing, walked out with 16 judgments for $2,500 each, a total of over $40,000 (see FirstChartered.pdf). Here's how to do it:

How to get $2,500 per junk fax in small claims court

How to get $2,500 per junk fax (California only)
How to sue people (general legal tips)
How to sue in small claims court
Lawsuit tips and tidbits
Collection tips and tidbits

[Blueface]

Kelly,
That is great information but man is it a whole lot to do.

I am going to start by calling my phone company and making sure that line has the same feature as my main house number.
If a call that is unidentified comes in, it puts them through hoops before they can ever connect with me.
Based on what I am seeing, they are sending these faxes from an unidentified number as none is recording on my fax received.

[Blueface]

Called my phone company and learned I have a feature that by dialing *77, I can stop any call that tries to come in blocked, that for example use *67 to call me.
Will try that and see how that works before the next step, putting them through call privacy where they have to identify themselves first.