torch and cutter, in flight carry on?

Devanmc · 09-13-2010, 05:36 PM

Well Im planning a trip home to visit my girl and family. Going to bring a few sticks back with me in a small travelador, which should be no problem at all. I am concerned however, about bringing my new xikar Xi2 and torch on the flight with me as im only bringing 1 bag(my carry on). Whats been everyone's experience with security handling cigar cutters and torches?

Note: security will be a bit lighter on me as i am military traveling in uniform.

forgop · 09-13-2010, 05:54 PM

Your cutter should be fine, but the torch will most likely be confiscated. My advice would be to leave the lighter at home and buy a gas station special when you get home for $5 or less. For crying out loud, TSA took my shave gel on Friday, so what do you think they'll do with a torch lighter?

bobarian · 09-13-2010, 05:59 PM

Torches are not allowed, if its a nice lighter no reason to take the risk although they seldom get confiscated. Cutters are also problematic. They are allowed but enforcing the rules is at the discretion of the TSA agent. If they decide to take it you cant argue with them. Put them in your checked luggage or leave at home and get them when you arrive.

icehog3 · 09-13-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Torches are not allowed, if its a nice lighter no reason to take the risk although they seldom get confiscated. Cutters are also problematic. They are allowed but enforcing the rules is at the discretion of the TSA agent. If they decide to take it you cant argue with them. Put them in your checked luggage or leave at home and get them when you arrive.

Yup....a Bic ain't a torch, if they see the torch lighter it is as good as gone. I would just bring a cheapie cutter, I wouldn't risk my Palio or Xikar, there is too much inconsistency amongst individual TSA agents.

14holestogie · 09-13-2010, 07:08 PM

Yep, torches are a no-no. Not even allowed in checked baggage.
I have managed to sneak a Ronson through buried in my golf bag, but I'd never risk a pricier lighter.

I wouldn't risk an expensive cutter, either. That usually depends on the mood of the TSA agent whether it's allowed in carry-ons.

icehog3 · 09-13-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie

Yep, torches are a no-no. Not even allowed in checked baggage.

Unless they are in one of the approved containers that conform to DOT-SP 14327. I have one made by Colibri.

lbowles2 · 09-14-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Unless they are in one of the approved containers that conform to DOT-SP 14327. I have one made by Colibri.

Hehe... I just got done posting this on another thread

I have used one of these a couple of times with no problem. I just packed it in my check-in luggage. I kind of doubt it would be allowed in carry on though.

09-14-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Unless they are in one of the approved containers that conform to DOT-SP 14327. I have one made by Colibri.

I Never had this problem the last 2 or so years on transatlantic flights. I put my torch in my toiletry bag, and the bag in my check-in luggage. Guess I should be more careful next time.

Chingas · 09-13-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Yup....a Bic ain't a torch, if they see the torch lighter it is as good as gone. I would just bring a cheapie cutter, I wouldn't risk my Palio or Xikar, there is too much inconsistency amongst individual TSA agents.

Agreed!

Cheap cutter, cheap lighter or buy it there and toss it.

I've never had a problem with either but it's not worth it. I deal with the same crap cause I carry two pocket knives, always. So I leave them in the car and buy some cheapies when I land. I gift them before I get back on the plane to go home.

Devanmc · 09-13-2010, 07:18 PM

alright, thanks for the advice guys. Just to reassure my self, there is no problem with a 5c xikar travelador(link) with some sticks in it, right?

14holestogie · 09-13-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Devanmc

alright, thanks for the advice guys. Just to reassure my self, there is no problem with a 5c xikar travelador(link) with some sticks in it, right?

No worries with carrying sticks on.

Bill86 · 09-14-2010, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chingas

Agreed!

Cheap cutter, cheap lighter or buy it there and toss it.

I've never had a problem with either but it's not worth it. I deal with the same crap cause I carry two pocket knives, always. So I leave them in the car and buy some cheapies when I land. I gift them before I get back on the plane to go home.

I hear ya, I wouldn't even THINK to take my Strider SMF on the plane with me. I would mail you're good **** to where ever you go.....cutters/lighters/knives whatever....and mail it back to your house afterwards. Especially if you're staying a few weeks. What does it cost $5-$7 bucks both ways? Don't risk your good stuff, ship it or don't but there's always cheapies that will get you by.

pektel · 09-13-2010, 07:15 PM

i'd just mail them to your destination, and mail them back before you leave.
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Mugen910 · 09-13-2010, 10:37 PM

They will take everything from yous!

J/K.

I carry a cheap plastic cutter and buy matches when I land. Problem solved.
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bvilchez · 09-13-2010, 11:01 PM

Same as everyone said above but don't think that just because you're in uniform you'll get some slack. Worse thing you can do is argue with them, lose, and damage it for the rest of the service members (not saying it'll happen but be careful).

As far as carrying sticks with you go ahead....hell I'm at the airport right now with about 15-20 of Cuba's finest (sticks that is).
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Barcode · 09-13-2010, 11:09 PM

My nephew just came back from Vegas and tried to bring 2 cutters he got for me and his Dad in his carry on bag and TSA said NO.

icehog3 · 09-13-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Barcode

My nephew just came back from Vegas and tried to bring 2 cutters he got for me and his Dad in his carry on bag and TSA said NO.

Yup, it can be a crapshoot with the TSA agents who don't understand their own policies...so I don't chance it with my good cutters.

dwoodward · 09-14-2010, 12:36 AM

The best advice I can give it use common sense... if it is even remotely dangerous... a torch could start a fire or a cutter could slice someones finger off, just put it in your checked luggage. Also, put it in a top pocket, don't bury it, because if they scan it and have to look for it, at least you might not be missing something else that fell on the ground while they were looking.

forgop · 09-14-2010, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Yup, it can be a crapshoot with the TSA agents who don't understand their own policies...so I don't chance it with my good cutters.

I'd pull this up on my iPhone real quick if some TSA idiot wanted to pull my cutter out of my carry on:

http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/prohib...s_10-24-07.pdf

icehog3 · 09-14-2010, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by forgop

I'd pull this up on my iPhone real quick if some TSA idiot wanted to pull my cutter out of my carry on:

http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/prohib...s_10-24-07.pdf

Good luck "reasoning" with an uptight TSA agent.

09-13-2010, 05:36 PM	#1
Devanmc Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Devan Location: The Zoo Posts: 1,971 Trading: (40)	torch and cutter, in flight carry on? Well Im planning a trip home to visit my girl and family. Going to bring a few sticks back with me in a small travelador, which should be no problem at all. I am concerned however, about bringing my new xikar Xi2 and torch on the flight with me as im only bringing 1 bag(my carry on). Whats been everyone's experience with security handling cigar cutters and torches? Note: security will be a bit lighter on me as i am military traveling in uniform. __________________ I spent a lot of my money on booze, cigars, birds and fast cars, the rest I just squandered. -George Best

09-13-2010, 05:54 PM	#2
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: torch and cutter, in flight carry on? Your cutter should be fine, but the torch will most likely be confiscated. My advice would be to leave the lighter at home and buy a gas station special when you get home for $5 or less. For crying out loud, TSA took my shave gel on Friday, so what do you think they'll do with a torch lighter?

09-13-2010, 05:59 PM	#3
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: torch and cutter, in flight carry on? Torches are not allowed, if its a nice lighter no reason to take the risk although they seldom get confiscated. Cutters are also problematic. They are allowed but enforcing the rules is at the discretion of the TSA agent. If they decide to take it you cant argue with them. Put them in your checked luggage or leave at home and get them when you arrive.

09-13-2010, 07:08 PM	#5
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: torch and cutter, in flight carry on? Yep, torches are a no-no. Not even allowed in checked baggage. I have managed to sneak a Ronson through buried in my golf bag, but I'd never risk a pricier lighter. I wouldn't risk an expensive cutter, either. That usually depends on the mood of the TSA agent whether it's allowed in carry-ons. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

09-13-2010, 07:18 PM	#10
Devanmc Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Devan Location: The Zoo Posts: 1,971 Trading: (40)	Re: torch and cutter, in flight carry on? alright, thanks for the advice guys. Just to reassure my self, there is no problem with a 5c xikar travelador(link) with some sticks in it, right? __________________ I spent a lot of my money on booze, cigars, birds and fast cars, the rest I just squandered. -George Best

09-13-2010, 07:15 PM	#13
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: torch and cutter, in flight carry on? i'd just mail them to your destination, and mail them back before you leave. Posted via Mobile Device

09-13-2010, 10:37 PM	#14
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: torch and cutter, in flight carry on? They will take everything from yous! J/K. I carry a cheap plastic cutter and buy matches when I land. Problem solved. Posted via Mobile Device

09-13-2010, 11:01 PM	#15
bvilchez En búsqueda..... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bolivar aka Jay Location: Back in SoCal Posts: 3,202 Trading: (76)	Re: torch and cutter, in flight carry on? Same as everyone said above but don't think that just because you're in uniform you'll get some slack. Worse thing you can do is argue with them, lose, and damage it for the rest of the service members (not saying it'll happen but be careful). As far as carrying sticks with you go ahead....hell I'm at the airport right now with about 15-20 of Cuba's finest (sticks that is). Posted via Mobile Device

09-13-2010, 11:09 PM	#16
Barcode Adjusting to the Life Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Tom Location: Everett, WA Posts: 477 Trading: (16)	Re: torch and cutter, in flight carry on? My nephew just came back from Vegas and tried to bring 2 cutters he got for me and his Dad in his carry on bag and TSA said NO.

09-14-2010, 12:36 AM	#18
dwoodward Gentlemen, you may smoke! Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Derrick Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,868 Trading: (26)	Re: torch and cutter, in flight carry on? The best advice I can give it use common sense... if it is even remotely dangerous... a torch could start a fire or a cutter could slice someones finger off, just put it in your checked luggage. Also, put it in a top pocket, don't bury it, because if they scan it and have to look for it, at least you might not be missing something else that fell on the ground while they were looking.

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