Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Cigar Forums > Cigar Discussion > All Cigar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-09-2010, 07:35 PM   #1
njstone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Moving cigar collection overseas

A few of you already know this, but it looks like the Air Force will be sending us to Japan this summer for a 3-year tour. I'll leave all my mixed emotions out of it for a minute in order to ask an important question:

How should I transport my large cigar collection to Japan?

Option 1) The military will move our stuff, and I could buy large coolers to replace my Tupperware bins and pack them very well with plenty of Heartfelt beads. They would be unopened in a variety of climates, including a very long airplane ride. They would be unopened until I get them 3-4 weeks later. (this option would cost only what the coolers would cost)

Option 2) I could send myself a ton of large packages via USPS Priority Mail. This would require several packages, and I run risk of USPS mishandling as well as possibly opening and even refusing a package--you technically can't ship that many cigars to Japan according to the USPS website. The transit time would only be a week or so. (this option would cost shipping ... most likely more than the cost of coolers)

Option 3) Something I haven't thought of yet ...


So what do you guys think? Has anyone moved large cigar collections overseas before?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2010, 07:43 PM   #2
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,557
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

I think you'd be fine with option #1. Just pack bubble wrap in the coolers and in the air spaces in the boxes inside the coolers so that the cigars can't move around, then secure the cooler lids with a few full wraps of fiberglass reinforced shipping tape.

Where in Japan are they sending you?
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2010, 07:59 PM   #3
njstone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G View Post
I think you'd be fine with option #1. Just pack bubble wrap in the coolers and in the air spaces in the boxes inside the coolers so that the cigars can't move around, then secure the cooler lids with a few full wraps of fiberglass reinforced shipping tape.

Where in Japan are they sending you?
Misawa, northeast Honshu
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2010, 08:26 PM   #4
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,557
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Quote:
Originally Posted by njstone View Post
Misawa, northeast Honshu
I think you are just going to barely miss Jim (diverbelow72) I think he leaves in June or July. If you do cross paths with him, he's a good brother to herf with.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2010, 08:44 PM   #5
marge796
It Just Doesn’t Matter!!!
 
marge796's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
First Name: Chris
Location: Topeka KS
Posts: 1,624
Trading: (28)
Cuaba Navy (Served With Honor)
marge796 will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

I did what you mentioned in option #1 when I left Iraq last year, they were fine upon arriving home. I just made sure to really secure them as much as possible in coolers & ensure my beads were in good shape prior to shipping.


Good luck and enjoy Japan!





Chris.....
__________________
“Don’t talk to me about naval tradition. It’s nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash.” -Sir Winston Churchill
marge796 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 11:35 AM   #6
njstone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm definitely leaning towards option 1 right now.

Do you think everything will be fine for 3-4 weeks without fresh air in the heat? I always try to open my bins once a week at home.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 11:44 AM   #7
AD720
I'm nuts for the place
 
AD720's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Andrew
Location: The City of BOTL-erly Love
Posts: 2,684
Trading: (73)
Partagas
AD720 is a jewel in the roughAD720 is a jewel in the roughAD720 is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

How much does it cost to ship an average sized package to Japan?

Maybe you can just send over enough to get you going and then have someone who is back home send you "care packages" every month or so as needed...that would avoid having to risk your entire stash at once with the 3 week trip or risk seizure or refusal via USPS.
__________________
AD720 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 01:18 PM   #8
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,557
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Quote:
Originally Posted by njstone View Post
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm definitely leaning towards option 1 right now.

Do you think everything will be fine for 3-4 weeks without fresh air in the heat? I always try to open my bins once a week at home.
Lack of air exchange for 3-4 weeks won't be a problem. Keep most of the beads on the dry side, so that they can suck up any excess moisture and prevent a mold colony from forming.



Quote:
Originally Posted by AD720 View Post
How much does it cost to ship an average sized package to Japan?
It would be going to an APO/FPO so same cost as domestic. Actually $2 less with the large flat rate priority boxes.

The priority shipments I've sent to Diver in Misawa would always take about 8-10 days from California.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 11:47 AM   #9
Navydoc
Roll Tide!!!
2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Paul
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 170
Trading: (0)
RA Navy (Retired)
Navydoc is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Maybe the Air Force is different than the Navy but the Navy will not ship Tobacco or wine...not to mention if someone knows what's in them one or more would likely disappear. You might want to consider having someone state side hold your collection until your return. They could always send mini-shipments as you need them and your collection would get 3 more years of aging...just a suggestion. Might want to check on the shipping tobacco though..
Navydoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 12:23 PM   #10
Don Fernando
Postwhore
 
Don Fernando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Ferdinand
Location: Singapore
Posts: 10,068
Trading: (29)
Army (Retired)
Don Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud ofDon Fernando has much to be proud of
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Option 1 will work. I went to the US for a roadtrip last may and had a cooler filled with cigars boxed up and shipped back home to The Netherlands (thanks again for helping out Dunng!). Worked like a charm.

I did put all the cigars in 5 finger bags and then topped the cooler off with some laundry so the cigars couldn't move.
__________________
check out my reviews on my blog.
Don Fernando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 01:35 PM   #11
kydsid
Ditat Deus
 
kydsid's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
First Name: Jason
Location: Among the Pines
Posts: 2,361
Trading: (46)
kydsid is just really nicekydsid is just really nicekydsid is just really nicekydsid is just really nice
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Ya not to mention the military restriction on tobacco and alcohol in personal goods shipments but: How large is large? Because their are Customs issues both entering them into Japan and when you return to the States.

If you are talking multiple coolers I can give you some advice pertaining to what you will be returning with and at least point you in the right direction to talk to Japanese Customs. PM me if you want more info.
kydsid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 02:16 PM   #12
njstone
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Quote:
Originally Posted by kydsid View Post
Ya not to mention the military restriction on tobacco and alcohol in personal goods shipments but: How large is large? Because their are Customs issues both entering them into Japan and when you return to the States.

If you are talking multiple coolers I can give you some advice pertaining to what you will be returning with and at least point you in the right direction to talk to Japanese Customs. PM me if you want more info.

It was my understanding that the US Military goods don't go through Japanese customs, and I'm also of the understanding that the US doesn't charge customs for your own property that the military ships back to the States for you. If I'm WRONG here, this could be a big problem ...
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 02:35 PM   #13
Whynot
Living the dream...
 
Whynot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
First Name: Aaron
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 175
Trading: (11)
Cohiba AirForce (Active)
Whynot is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

I am not sure about tobacco, but it recently change so you could ship alcohol with household. My plan is to tape up a cooler for my initial 500 lbs quick shipment and do the same for the rest in household goods. The moving company that TMO hires won't give a rat behind what you put in your coolers.
__________________
"My time coming, any day, don't worry bout me, no. Been so long I felt this way, ain't in no hurry, no"
Whynot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 02:42 PM   #14
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,557
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Quote:
Originally Posted by njstone View Post
It was my understanding that the US Military goods don't go through Japanese customs, and I'm also of the understanding that the US doesn't charge customs for your own property that the military ships back to the States for you. If I'm WRONG here, this could be a big problem ...
You have a PM.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2010, 03:48 PM   #15
kydsid
Ditat Deus
 
kydsid's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
First Name: Jason
Location: Among the Pines
Posts: 2,361
Trading: (46)
kydsid is just really nicekydsid is just really nicekydsid is just really nicekydsid is just really nice
Default Re: Moving cigar collection overseas

Quote:
Originally Posted by njstone View Post
It was my understanding that the US Military goods don't go through Japanese customs,...
Everything goes through Customs. The level of interest and inspection is the variable part.

Quote:
Originally Posted by njstone View Post
and I'm also of the understanding that the US doesn't charge customs for your own property that the military ships back to the States for you. If I'm WRONG here, this could be a big problem ...
Same as above. Yes it is true that US Returned goods are free. Tobacco is one of those things that can throw a red flag though. And while you can bring everything back free you can be required to PROVE it is from the US.


If you have further concerns or questions feel free to PM or ask here.
kydsid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.