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Old 01-24-2010, 04:51 PM   #1
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Default Never had Ashton VSG or ESG

I've never had an ashton VSG or ESG... My local B&M regularly stocks the VSG and occasionaly gets boxes of the ESG in... but everytime i go in my money ends up going towards something else... i here alot of talk about these lately... what am i missing?
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:55 PM   #2
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IMO? You're missing alot! These are one of the staples in high end NCs, and are comprable in quality to Padron Annis and Opus. They are strong smokes that are consistantly good. If you can find some with age, even better!

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Old 01-24-2010, 04:58 PM   #3
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I like the VSG and not so much the ESG. They both, typically, have great construction and burn. Both are a little one dimensional. I have had way more of the VSGs and you just know what you will get. A quality smoke at a decent price.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:14 PM   #4
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I finally tried a VSG not too long ago and I wasn't that impressed. I expected it to taste more like a Fuente. They're not bad, just a little boring. I'd buy a Don Carlos or Opus instead.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:37 PM   #5
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I have never had an ESG either...never could pull the trigger considering the price point.

As for the VSG, I had my 1st one last year. All I can say is, it is well worth the try . Amazing smoke with some good complexity.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:49 PM   #6
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I like the VSG and not so much the ESG. They both, typically, have great construction and burn. Both are a little one dimensional. I have had way more of the VSGs and you just know what you will get. A quality smoke at a decent price.
on the ESG. Was a real disappointment.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:42 PM   #7
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on the ESG. Was a real disappointment.
The VSG is a good smoke. Some nice skinny vitolas as well. ESG? Meh.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:20 PM   #8
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on the ESG. Was a real disappointment.
The ESGs are way more money than what they are worth. The VSGs, however, are a well made, complex cigar. Not cheap, but worth trying a few.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:57 PM   #9
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I like the VSG and not so much the ESG. They both, typically, have great construction and burn. Both are a little one dimensional. I have had way more of the VSGs and you just know what you will get. A quality smoke at a decent price.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:19 PM   #10
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I am a huge fan of the ESG but the VSG is a better choice for most when you factor in price. I heard the VSGs get better with some age on them. Definitely try a VSG, you might like it a lot.
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These are made by fuente correct? As im slowly loosing taste for my NC's and gaining more repect for Cuban tobacco... my fuentes i still love... my opus, my anejo, and most of all my sungrowns.. Im thinking some VSG's may be just what i need.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:29 PM   #12
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These are made by fuente correct? As im slowly loosing taste for my NC's and gaining more repect for Cuban tobacco... my fuentes i still love... my opus, my anejo, and most of all my sungrowns.. Im thinking some VSG's may be just what i need.
The VSG are very consistent and good . Peppery . I've only had 1 ESG and on the advice of a friend I waited a year to smoke it after I bought it , the original release version , was an excellent cigar , flawless construction and burn the whole way through . Flavor was excellent but the price is what has kept me away from the ESG . Worth a try if you've not had one .
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:44 PM   #13
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Default Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG

Having smoked both, I can't think of a single reason to ever purchase another ESG, given the price point.

If someone handed me either stick for FREE, I'd still probably take the VSG. While neither stick has the complexity of a Nic puro, I like the blend of the VSG a bit more.

http://www.ashtoncigar.com/Ashton-VSG.jsp
http://www.ashtoncigar.com/Ashton-ESG.jsp

I also echo Addiction's opinion... The San Cristobal is probably their best stick, and usually a few bucks cheaper than the VSG. DEFINITELY dollars cheaper than the ESG
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:52 PM   #14
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First time I tried a VSG earlier in my cigar hobby I hated it. I recently revisited one and absolutely loved it. I enjoyed the ESG very very much. If you like Opus then you'll likely enjoy the ESG. The ESG was much like the Opus except it seemed richer. This makes sense considering it uses a sun grown version of the Opus wrapper.
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Old 01-25-2010, 09:57 AM   #15
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First time I tried a VSG earlier in my cigar hobby I hated it. I recently revisited one and absolutely loved it. I enjoyed the ESG very very much. If you like Opus then you'll likely enjoy the ESG. The ESG was much like the Opus except it seemed richer. This makes sense considering it uses a sun grown version of the Opus wrapper.
I'm with you on the ESG's, but I like the VSG's as well. The ESG is way more interesting though.
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Old 01-25-2010, 01:50 PM   #16
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I'm with you on the ESG's, but I like the VSG's as well. The ESG is way more interesting though.
i'd agree there as well but i really think it depends on the size of the ESG. i was not impressed by them until i smoked the torpedo. it was smooth but one dimensional but i still liked it. wont buy them unless they are on sale.
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:34 PM   #17
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Default Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG

I used to love the VSG...one of my favorites a few years ago when I first started out. I had one more recently and enjoyed it but not as much as I remember...I was just coming down with a cold though. The flavor that I remember picking up from them was "black cherry".
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:38 PM   #18
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Default Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG

I do love a nice VSG Illusion!

As for the ESG, I haven't tried it due to the price...

I may have to break down and try one on a special occasion.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:25 PM   #19
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Love the VSG. Can't get enough. But, have never tried the ESG. Very pretty band.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:31 PM   #20
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VSG is the shiznit!!
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