Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping

11-05-2009, 09:50 AM

Apologies for dropping in like this.

I am not a cigar smoker. But I have a question about cigar smoking so this seemed a good place to ask.

Is it normal behavior for someone else to clip your cigars for you by their mouth? How about if that person is your assistant / servant / staff at a club -- would they clip your cigar for you with their mouth then?

I don't think that is the usual practice. Other people I'm discussing this with seem to think that is a perfectly normal thing for an employee to do for an employer. One person mentioned that a rich person who smokes cigars would have servants doing that for him. (While I think any servant / assistant / employee who clips his boss' cigars would use a cutter.)

The discussion has come up from a scene on a TV show. The boss is a male. The assistant is a beautiful young female. The owner of the house tosses a cigar to the male boss. He does not hand the cigar over to the assistant. Instead she takes it from his hand. Then she proceeds to put the cigar in her mouth, clip it and hand it back to him. Then he puts it in his mouth and smokes it.

I say that has sexual connotations especially as the female assistant has no issues with being naked around her boss.

Almost everyone else thinks that this is a normal way to clip a cigar and it means nothing. But none of us smoke cigars, so I'm asking people who do.

By the way, if anyone wants to view the scene and you live in the US, you can watch it here. It's a very quick scene and starts at 17 minutes 20 seconds.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1777/airwo...e-hawke-part-1

Kreth · 11-05-2009, 09:55 AM

The normal practice is to use a cutter or punch. If a cigar has a tightly rolled pigtail at the head, I'll just bite that off in lieu of cutting. But no, it is not common to have someone else bite the cap off your cigar.

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hotreds · 11-05-2009, 09:57 AM

No

slickster81 · 11-05-2009, 10:04 AM

I guess it may have been acceptable back in the 80's when Airwolf was filmed....

But I would give my

and say it isn't acceptable other than in the pigtail situation, and I generally clip them too. Ruins the head of the cigar 90% of the time for one, wrapper unravels...cigar becomes a disaster.

Footbag · 11-05-2009, 10:05 AM

Nope... In fact there is a lost art of having a cigar lit for you. It should be clipped, using a tool, and then a match flame should be held to the foot of the cigar while slowly rotating. After the cigar has begun to burn the lighter may actually chose to swing his arm while a bit of air passes through the cigar causing it to burn and straiten out.

I've never had a cigar lit for me like this, and as I understand it, very few people even know about it. But it seems cool. If I ever have the opportunity, I'll give it a shot.

Edit: I was actually searching for a video of this method and cannot find one. I believe the do it or did it in the Hotel Nacional, but am not finding it. IT's an interesting method nonetheless.

ZenSilk · 11-05-2009, 10:20 AM

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT!

You mean to say that you guys DON'T live on a Villa in Spain and have gorgeous women biting the heads off your cigars??

slickster81 · 11-05-2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenSilk

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT!

You mean to say that you guys DON'T live on a Villa in Spain and have gorgeous women biting the heads off your cigars??

bobarian · 11-05-2009, 11:07 AM

It was a TV show. In real life, I got one word for you, HERPES.

Blueface · 11-05-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

It was a TV show. In real life, I got one word for you, HERPES.

Worse yet.......if they are not good at it (dad can do that better than a cutter), they will ruin the cigar and the wrapper. I can handle herpes. Tough to deal with an unraveling cigar.

bobarian · 11-05-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

Worse yet.......if they are not good at it (dad can do that better than a cutter), they will ruin the cigar and the wrapper. I can handle herpes. Tough to deal with an unraveling cigar.

Footbag · 11-05-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by volfan

Actually at CA there is a video for the 3 match light BEFORE the cigar is cut/clipped. That method does work and it works very well if you have the patience to do it correctly.

This is a different method where the waiter or "cigar expert" clips and lights the cigar for you without actually touching it to his lips. The coolest part is when he's waving his arm around. Must truly be a lost art.

thebiglebowski · 11-05-2009, 12:35 PM

the heck ya talkin' about?!

Starscream · 11-05-2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

It was a TV show. In real life, I got one word for you, HERPES.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface

Worse yet.......if they are not good at it (dad can do that better than a cutter), they will ruin the cigar and the wrapper. I can handle herpes. Tough to deal with an unraveling cigar.

wrench turner 85 · 11-05-2009, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenSilk

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT!

You mean to say that you guys DON'T live on a Villa in Spain and have gorgeous women biting the heads off your cigars??

not all the time, only when am drunk.

SmokinApe · 11-05-2009, 12:55 PM

I'd let her bite it....

icehog3 · 11-05-2009, 01:16 PM

I'm only scarred about the face, breast, chest, neck, and head area.

poker · 11-05-2009, 01:32 PM

Is it "normal" behavior? I think no.
Does it happen in real life? Probably, to some small degree.

dunng · 11-05-2009, 01:43 PM

Airwolf!

11-06-2009, 08:37 AM

Thank you very much for all the replies! (And I see there's at least one Airwolf fan on here.) I knew it was patently ridiculous. But, if you can believe it, I was the only one. Everyone else thought that's how it's done and no matter how many times I said it wasn't, they wouldn't believe me -- of course, clipping a cigar like that is simply what a loyal employee does for the boss. Ridiculous. Now I can go back to the discussion with this is what people who do smoke cigars say about the notion.

11-05-2009, 09:50 AM	#1
Temp Guest Posts: n/a	Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping Apologies for dropping in like this. I am not a cigar smoker. But I have a question about cigar smoking so this seemed a good place to ask. Is it normal behavior for someone else to clip your cigars for you by their mouth? How about if that person is your assistant / servant / staff at a club -- would they clip your cigar for you with their mouth then? I don't think that is the usual practice. Other people I'm discussing this with seem to think that is a perfectly normal thing for an employee to do for an employer. One person mentioned that a rich person who smokes cigars would have servants doing that for him. (While I think any servant / assistant / employee who clips his boss' cigars would use a cutter.) The discussion has come up from a scene on a TV show. The boss is a male. The assistant is a beautiful young female. The owner of the house tosses a cigar to the male boss. He does not hand the cigar over to the assistant. Instead she takes it from his hand. Then she proceeds to put the cigar in her mouth, clip it and hand it back to him. Then he puts it in his mouth and smokes it. I say that has sexual connotations especially as the female assistant has no issues with being naked around her boss. Almost everyone else thinks that this is a normal way to clip a cigar and it means nothing. But none of us smoke cigars, so I'm asking people who do. By the way, if anyone wants to view the scene and you live in the US, you can watch it here. It's a very quick scene and starts at 17 minutes 20 seconds. http://www.hulu.com/watch/1777/airwo...e-hawke-part-1

11-05-2009, 09:55 AM	#2
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping The normal practice is to use a cutter or punch. If a cigar has a tightly rolled pigtail at the head, I'll just bite that off in lieu of cutting. But no, it is not common to have someone else bite the cap off your cigar. Posted via Mobile Device

11-05-2009, 09:57 AM	#3
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,670 Trading: (63)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping No __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

11-05-2009, 10:04 AM	#4
slickster81 Ein weiteres Bier bitte Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: John Location: Rochester Hills Posts: 246 Trading: (30)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping I guess it may have been acceptable back in the 80's when Airwolf was filmed.... But I would give my and say it isn't acceptable other than in the pigtail situation, and I generally clip them too. Ruins the head of the cigar 90% of the time for one, wrapper unravels...cigar becomes a disaster. __________________ Smokin' fine cigars, and swappin' lies....."Long Road Out Of Eden", The Eagles

11-05-2009, 10:05 AM	#5
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping Nope... In fact there is a lost art of having a cigar lit for you. It should be clipped, using a tool, and then a match flame should be held to the foot of the cigar while slowly rotating. After the cigar has begun to burn the lighter may actually chose to swing his arm while a bit of air passes through the cigar causing it to burn and straiten out. I've never had a cigar lit for me like this, and as I understand it, very few people even know about it. But it seems cool. If I ever have the opportunity, I'll give it a shot. Edit: I was actually searching for a video of this method and cannot find one. I believe the do it or did it in the Hotel Nacional, but am not finding it. IT's an interesting method nonetheless. Last edited by Footbag; 11-05-2009 at 10:11 AM.

11-05-2009, 10:20 AM	#6
ZenSilk Still Watching My Back Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 106 Trading: (8)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT! You mean to say that you guys DON'T live on a Villa in Spain and have gorgeous women biting the heads off your cigars??

11-05-2009, 11:07 AM	#8
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping It was a TV show. In real life, I got one word for you, HERPES.

11-05-2009, 12:35 PM	#12
thebiglebowski Jack White's Roadie... Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: larry Location: music city, USA Posts: 665 Trading: (0)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping the heck ya talkin' about?!

11-05-2009, 12:55 PM	#15
SmokinApe Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeremy Posts: 1,267 Trading: (35)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping I'd let her bite it....

11-05-2009, 01:16 PM	#16
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,646 Trading: (60)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping I'm only scarred about the face, breast, chest, neck, and head area. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

11-05-2009, 01:32 PM	#17
poker 1:11 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kelly Location: SoCal Posts: 5,280 Trading: (7)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping Is it "normal" behavior? I think no. Does it happen in real life? Probably, to some small degree. __________________ Cigar Asylum: A cigar board birthed without agendas, without profiting, and without advertisements. Amor puro Character is what you do when no one is watching

11-05-2009, 01:43 PM	#18
dunng MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: MassHole Posts: 4,719 Trading: (59)	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping Airwolf! __________________ MassHole Banter

11-06-2009, 08:37 AM	#19
Temp Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Apologies & A Question about Cigar Clipping Thank you very much for all the replies! (And I see there's at least one Airwolf fan on here.) I knew it was patently ridiculous. But, if you can believe it, I was the only one. Everyone else thought that's how it's done and no matter how many times I said it wasn't, they wouldn't believe me -- of course, clipping a cigar like that is simply what a loyal employee does for the boss. Ridiculous. Now I can go back to the discussion with this is what people who do smoke cigars say about the notion.