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Originally Posted by icehog3
Fail ure, Perry....Fail ure.
My training sure ain't to fail.
If you want to experience weightloss from lifting, you are going to have to train fast and light....cardio is much more efficeint, when combined with proper nutrition. 
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I know

was trying a play on words.
also to update you I took no Dren today and if I had any caffeine it was from chocolate.

energy was the same as if taking Dren and my mood was avg. did notice about 330 I was very tired.