I usually manage between 7-8 night before off days, and 6-7 before lifting days, since I am at the gym at 5, so up by 4:40 or so (up by 5:45/6 on off days). But since I am usually not home from work until almost 7 (hour commute each way), in bed by 9 barely gives me time to digest my dinner. Maybe I should skip dinner and get in bed by 8 every night