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					Originally Posted by  GhostRyder
					 
				 
				Yup... that first box is almost gone. I refuse to believe there is a better cigar out there for the money. No way.  
 
And yeah I had read that about Estelo Padron--that is a different "Padron" then the one behind the Padron brand right? I'm a n00b, forgive me. 
			
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 Different as in not connected to the Padron family business but he is the brother of 
José Orlando Padron, Sr. 
Good little bio of him here. http://www.jrcigars.com/index.cfm?page=ffp_ep75th