Depends on how you smoke and what you like. Smoked a 64 principe nat that was 5-6 years old the other day. It was quite good.. but you still can't nose it and it doesnt have the depth of flavors .. in contrast to that which you asked not be be mentioned. Better than fresh if you ask me. Great aftertaste and mouth flavors. Had a very old Padron last year that everyone thought was vintage cuban so...