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Originally Posted by BigFrank

I agree with Tom on the switching up for grips. Hit some heavy set with your strongest grip, then mix it up a bit. I love doing that with pull ups. After I've blasted out my sets, I will do 2 or 3 with a super wide grip, really busts up my rear delts, and gives a good stretch.

I love those super wide pull-ups, Frank...really tears it up.

Originally Posted by King James

my gym doesnt have a tbar

Olympic bar, a close grip pulldown attachment, and a corner. You can even just grip the bar just below one of the sleeves if you don't have an attackment....Old Skool!!