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Originally Posted by dave

" I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government."

-Thomas Jefferson


I, too, love Thomas Jefferson; however, his writings were so prolific and thoughtful, that his quotes are too often used in poor context to justify just about any position about anything. I generally try to avoid quoting him for just that reason. But, I do come back to this one from time to time when discussing various 'protest actions'; be it Occupiers, or Hands Uppers, etc. Even when I disagree with the message of a protest or rally, I tend to go out of my way to defend the rights of those who want to get their message out. I can't find the quote now, but I believe that Jefferson had another, similar quote about rebellion that seemed to almost forecast an insurrection every couple decades.....just to keep the powers in check....Sorta scary to think about nowadays.

Jefferson hated the Constitution and the Jay treaty because they exposed him to his creditors. A slave owner, he never freed more than a handful of them and then only his family members; and not even all of them. His free-spending ways in France and at home caused him to have to rent out his slaves in order to pay his debts. It seems that he only hated banks when it was time to pay them back. He also applauded the Terror in France as Robespierre threatened to kill both Thomas Paine and General Lafayette. I'm not a fan.