09-05-2014, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
First Name: Zach
Location: North Texas
Posts: 1,520
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Re: Is Your Maduro Legit?
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Originally Posted by T.G
Maduro just means "ripe". It's also a color on the grading chart. A manufacturer can define a cigar as maduro by either definition. Or by any other, there really is no standard. It doesn't have to be a special or separate fermentation. You go to Padron for example and the x000 series cigars wrappers all come out of the same pilons. When a pilon is broken down the leaves are sorted by color and the darker ones are sold as maduro, the lighter ones as natural. Another example, JdN Antano's, are dark enough and fermented in such a way that they could be classified as maduros, yet, they don't describe/sell them that way.
Don't confuse the old maduro-matic ovens which basically cooked the leaves to a dark shade a few hours with a fermentation that occurs at a higher temp.
I've never heard of the "rubbing the leaves between your hands" thing. First off, the capa leaf is usually a very thin and delicate leaf, chosen in part because of it's ascetics. Rubbing this leaf between your hands would destroy it, you'd tear holes in it all over the place. This would render it unusable as a capa leaf. Also, there's no way your going to generate enough friction to heat it up and change the color, if you did it would likely be shredded in the process. I think what is causing the confusion here is from photos of the factories where just about everyone's hands are stained from handling tobacco for 8-10 hours a day.
The dye is a tricky one. It is used by some manufacturers to standardize color on the leaves so that all the cigars in a box and from box to box all look the same versus for example, Cuban cigars, where not only is it common to have two boxes with the same codes that don't have the same shade of wrapper leaf, you even have progression in colors within the same box. It can also used by some manufacturers to make their cigars look darker than they might be. Unfortunately, sometimes it can be hard to tell when it's used. Color coming off on your hands, if extreme, is probably dye, but if it's a lesser transfer, then it might or might not actually be dye and just the leaf itself. And sometimes dye doesn't come off - take the most famous dyed cigar: Partagas Black - they boil those leaves, that color will never rub off on your hands. So, unfortunately, having something come off on your hands isn't always a reliable indicator. Although, if it makes you feel better, the dye is typically made from the stalks of the tobacco plant and not some batch of artificial junk.
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Wow. Thank you, Professor!  Seriously, there is a lot of very useful information in your post.
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