When Jon Huber was at CAO he came to some big herfs held in my area. Usually very engaging and friendly. However the last time was not long before he split with CAO; spent most all his time texting and otherwise staring at his phone. (Maybe he was sending out his resume all over the place.
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So far the Crowned Heads and Four Kicks I've tried were okay but seemed to need some age. Kinda pricey for their size but not outrageous like some brand new offerings.