last batch I tried I started making with Cider, but discovered that the only cider available for me to buy in my area tasted like @$$, weak, watery, etc.
I found that this worked as a "passable" substitute - not on par with the batch I made in the fall (with fresh cider), but far superior to the batch made with the poor cider available. Same general 1:1 ratios as before, just use this instead of the cigar part.