ok back to the rolling aspects of things. I learned a couple neats tricks from a great guy. In order to do a pigtail, either long or short, you cut your cap with the cap tool ( copper pipe) and make a pac man ( cut a V in the cap) so you can go around the pigtail.
Worked out great.
I also have a 3.75x58 "~nub" that has an aged wrapper.
