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Old 09-09-2011, 12:20 PM   #7
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Default Re: Partagas Cifuentes 2006?

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Originally Posted by SvilleKid View Post
But here, you haven't JUST given your opinion on the specific cigar. You have made a blanket statement on pretty much any other cigar in a WHOLE brand line. Yes, in my opinion. Isn't that what was asked for? By your definition all reviews are pointless unless your taste is the exact same as the reviewer.

"if the opinions of those you respect say something is a turd, then it's good chance it's a turd."

And as to them being a "turd", when you say that, do you also realize you are basically saying that anyone that therefore likes these must like turds??????
Did I say it was a turd? No, That is what you implied. I simply said that if the concensus of a cigar s bad then it should be taken as advice to those wanting to try the product.

Just saying that when you make blanket judgmental statements, you are conveying many more opinions than about a single cigar. Sorry, but I like many of the NC Partagas lines, which I guess, by inference, means I like to smoke turds??!!??

You may like to smoke turds.I don't know but if you like them then enjoy.
By the same token you're saying I like them so they aren't bad. Aren't you saying the same thing from the other side?

Maybe the better tact here would be to do an in-depth review on a cigar, instead of a blanket statement that the cigar is a turd. This conveys no information what-so-ever about a cigar. Nor does it give the questioner anything to really base his decision on. And, to be fair, smoke that cigar at least three times in three different settings and circumstances before writing any review, so you can give the stick a fair shot. Is this a "rule of three" that doesn't exist, but that should? I don't know. I do know that I have smoked many cigars a second and third time, under varying circumstances, and had different impressions about many of them over all three times (many times better, but several times sometimes worse!)Why? Why can't someone post a review of a single cigar if they want to?

Hopefully, you see where I'm going with this. I'm purposely being over-the-top simply to re-emphasis that the opinions of a few people on a cigar board DOES NOT mean someone won't like a specific cigar, or a whole line of cigars! And, If you happen to be someone that does like the line (or manufacturer, for that matter) that someone else has completely written off, that doesn't mean you are a smoker that likes to smoke "turds". That simply means that you have different tastes, and don't necessary find a cigar "boring" because it doesn't excite a specific taste profile that someone else finds "exciting".

Of course not and no one on here said they won't enjoy it. A little comon sense here goes a long way. Very few people on here ask for opinions on a single stick. Let me re-emphasize that all of these recomendations are personal thoughts. AS WAS ASKED FOR! To me, yes, NC Partagas are turds, as are CAO and Rocky Patel. Haven't had a single one I've liked. Doesn't mean that anyone else that likes them shouldn't smoke them or give them a shot.

It is impossible to judge someone elses' tastes, experiences, motivations, judgments if you do not know those people personally and extensively. Heck, I have people I interact with in person, and have known for years, but I don't know enough about them to truly judge their abilities to have the same specific likes and dislikes as I have. I have had many people I know tell me I'd like a certain beer, only to find it too bitter for my tastes! It just goes to show that you need to listen to others opinions, but don't forget that opinions are like ....... Well, you know this one!

Which is what I pretty much said in my last reply. Try it for yourself. So I'm not sure where you're going here.

Again, NEVER take another smoker's opinion (even mine!) as gospel. Heck, this is a generous board. Ask for one to try before you buy. Chances are, if it is such a dog-rocket as several have portrayed, someone must have boxes of un-smoked ones they are just looking to give away!
Sure, but was that what was asked? No... what was asked were peoples thoughts on the cigar. Which should be treated as opinions. Which was also mentioned before.

And, if CI offers it on a regular basis, as seems to be the case, then the deal will come around again. And, if in the meantime, you have been gifted one or two, you may be in a position to judge for yourself.
Hope this clears a little up. If you ask a question about anything you'll get answers yes and no. It's up to the asker to figure out what they'll do with the info. We're big boys and girls on here, I think we can figure out little things like this without people having to remind us that one single person doesn't know it all
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