So here is the latest. this is the second prototype that was done. Notice the bigger bowl and that I extended the holder part into the bowl a little so if you need to ash before it falls onto your shirt or floor, you can. This is also the prototype that was taken to a fabricator to make a cleaned up one. The cleaned up one will be brushed stainless steel. So, it will still have some weight to it. Also notice that the cigar in the holder is a nice average size cigar and you would have no problems picking it up or putting it down. One thing I didn't like about some of the ashtrays you can get now is how short the holders are and that the cigar tends to end up with the burning end in the ash. I think that takes away from the taste a little. With having it as long as it is, you don't have to worry about that ash taste on your tasty cigar.