I think they may have just added this line as I don't ever remember seeing them and I am a big Litto ho. I am familiar with the Padron, Pepin and PErdomo renditions but these are new to me. May be to new for anyone to have bought and smoked any yet. These seem to have slid in under the radar also as this is the first time I am even hearing of them. I had the same trouble trying to get feedback on the Tat HCS from Holts a few weeks ago. Just chalked it up to being to new. Plus with all the limited releases from the boutique brands lately who has time to pay attention to house brands.