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Originally Posted by BigFrank

I hear you on this Tom. I understand a lot of people want to use them because they are "legal" but like I said, you would be more than better off taking the real crap. The way pro-hormones work is terrible at best. It's not precise and is often not constant. More often than not if they do work the levels of test range and vary greatly, causing a host of issues. Not to mention there are no pro-hormones that I know of that are a 17aa compound. ( altered to endure the first pass through your liver without being destroyed ) which without doing makes any oral worthless in regards to hormones.

I respect both your knowledge and experience, Brother Frank. I know the real stuff would be 10X more effective and efficient, but I am not in a position to take it because of my job...and I am not sure I would even if I had a different job.

After 25 years of trying countless legal supps, what I do know is what works for me....and the SUS 500 definitely both increases my strength and tightens up my tendon and joint maladies. But you may be absolutely right that the levels are all over the place, but at my age, it's great to have an edge that sure seems to be more than just psychological.