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Slavac 11-01-2009 04:48 PM
What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
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First time I've ran across something like this. Help a brother out!

RightAJ 11-01-2009 05:02 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Had this happen before too...

Humidity problems?? Maybe dry box before smoking. If that's not it, could just be a bad roll on that particular stick

aj

sikk50 11-01-2009 05:05 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
It's called canoe'ing, basicly the best idea would be to check humidity issues. However I'm sure there can be other factors involved sometimes

Slavac 11-01-2009 05:08 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 626983)
It's called canoe'ing, basicly the best idea would be to check humidity issues. However I'm sure there can be other factors involved sometimes
But there was a hole in it. Went about 1.5mm down into the cigar. I don't think beetles are the issue.

markem 11-01-2009 05:12 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Were you smoking outside? Temp and room/area humidity along with speed of smoking matter.

Slavac 11-01-2009 05:13 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by markem (Post 627001)
Were you smoking outside? Temp and room/area humidity along with speed of smoking matter.
Outside, 60deg night with no wind.

markem 11-01-2009 05:15 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavac (Post 627007)
Outside, 60deg night with no wind.
Ah ha! Smoke a little slower, smaller puffs and rotate the cigar about 90 degrees between puffs

sikk50 11-01-2009 05:16 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
I would venture to say the roller messed up a tad and didn't pack enough filler in that area, causing the hole obviously, but also causing that side of the cigar to burn extra fast/hot. That would be my uneducated guess assuming you've ruled out both humidity and beetles

Slavac 11-01-2009 05:18 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sikk50 (Post 627015)
I would venture to say the roller messed up a tad and didn't pack enough filler in that area, causing the hole obviously, but also causing that side of the cigar to burn extra fast/hot. That would be my uneducated guess assuming you've ruled out both humidity and beetles
I'm still a noob by all means, but the cigar was properly humidified at 65% thanks to heartfelt beads and my coolerdor. I've just never seen a hole rapidly appear under the wrapper.

CigarNut 11-01-2009 05:18 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Thanks for bringing this up -- I had the same thing happen to me today when I smoked a cigar outside. It is was 60 degrees and much more humid (90%) outside here (in Oregon), so based on what Markm said, I am guessing that the difference in humidity and temperature were the cause.

neoflex 11-01-2009 05:38 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
This also tends to happen when smoking in the car but like markem mentioned rotating tends to fix it in this scenario. In your case it just seems like it may have been a poor roll. It happens, it's a product made completely by hand. May have been the last stick the roller had left on a Friday afternoon.:D Sometimes my sticks that sit on top in a shelf in my cabinet will sometimes do this as I rarely rotate my sticks in the cab. I think the tops may be more moist than the bottoms resting on the sticks below it. I could also just be nuts! HA!:r
Did you try touching it up at all or did you just try and see if it ould correct itself on it's own?

markem 11-01-2009 05:46 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 627022)
Thanks for bringing this up -- I had the same thing happen to me today when I smoked a cigar outside. It is was 60 degrees and much more humid (90%) outside here (in Oregon), so based on what Markm said, I am guessing that the difference in humidity and temperature were the cause.
Weird, the high humidity for my area (close to you) is 61% for today.

Slavac 11-01-2009 06:06 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 627051)
This also tends to happen when smoking in the car but like markem mentioned rotating tends to fix it in this scenario. In your case it just seems like it may have been a poor roll. It happens, it's a product made completely by hand. May have been the last stick the roller had left on a Friday afternoon.:D Sometimes my sticks that sit on top in a shelf in my cabinet will sometimes do this as I rarely rotate my sticks in the cab. I think the tops may be more moist than the bottoms resting on the sticks below it. I could also just be nuts! HA!:r
Did you try touching it up at all or did you just try and see if it ould correct itself on it's own?
It corrected itself shortly thereafter, but the part that miffs me is that there was almost a perfect hole in the cigar. Sort of weird huh :P

Scottw 11-01-2009 08:18 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
if you used a blue flame lighter, is it possible you directed the flame directly into the foot perhaps scorching the tobacco from the inside out?

elderboy02 11-01-2009 08:29 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
What cigar was it?

IIRC, it is possible that if too much ligero is rolled on one side that it would burn un-evenly b/c ligero burns slower.

massphatness 11-01-2009 08:53 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavac (Post 627078)
It corrected itself shortly thereafter, but the part that miffs me is that there was almost a perfect hole in the cigar. Sort of weird huh :P
FWIW, I sometimes see this my cigars. From my experience, the "hole" does not cause the canoeing affect. I have no idea what it is, but I do know I see it too frequently to think there may be something wrong.

Slavac 11-01-2009 08:53 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottw (Post 627237)
if you used a blue flame lighter, is it possible you directed the flame directly into the foot perhaps scorching the tobacco from the inside out?
Perhaps, but this was about 2" from the foot.

And I'm not sure what the cigar was, it was apart of a BTT.

El Fumador 11-01-2009 09:07 PM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
It's a bad roll, sometimes there's a stem that's not supposed to be in the filler. And it runs on you from the inside, I just light the other part of the cigar to even it out. Sometimes cigars run on you, it's just part of the game. The construction of the cigar is not easy, it take's a master.

CigarNut 11-02-2009 11:44 AM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by markem (Post 627061)
Weird, the high humidity for my area (close to you) is 61% for today.
Just going by what my Oregon Scientific Weather Station reported... Maybe I need to get it checked...

roughrider 11-02-2009 11:53 AM
Re: What caused this weird burn? (Pics)
 
It most likely has to do with a sudden change in humidity or mistake on the roller's part.


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