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JJG 09-20-2009 10:33 AM

oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
I'm disappointed. How common is this? I was smoking another one of these Adrian's cigars and I noticed when I wiped the wet end on a paper towel, it leaves a brown stain. I've never tried it before so maybe all cigars do this. I smoked a PAM64 later that night and it did the same thing. Do they use dyed wrappers too? :(

borndead1 09-20-2009 10:45 AM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Don't worry, it's not shoe polish or anything. :D



Some cigar makers "enhance" their maduro wrappers. They use coffee, tea, or even a sort of "tobacco tea" made from boiling down stems and stalks and such.

icehog3 09-20-2009 10:47 AM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
As long as they don't start using pink dye. ;)

rudeJARHEAD 09-20-2009 10:48 AM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Are you sure it is not tar? If a cigar is a little on the damp side I have been known to get a bitter tar residue on the cut end. There are manufacturers that artificialy color their maduro wrappers, but you can usually spot them by the overly dark wrappers.

JJG 09-20-2009 10:53 AM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
I did the wipe thing pretty much right after I lit them so I don't know if they would have time to build up tar residue. Anyhow, I'm not going to worry about it too much, but until now I thought only cheaper cigars had dyed wrappers.

borndead1 09-20-2009 11:06 AM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
I smoked a Padron 80th that stained my fingers, and a Fuente Anejo that stained my fingers, and smoked pitch black cheapazz bundle cigars that didn't stain my fingers.

As long as it's not paint, shoe polish, crude oil or whatever, I will continue to smoke an occasional Mr. Hanky Cigar. :ss

Red 09-20-2009 11:38 AM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
i know RP edge madruo is dyed...will turn your dang lips brown...GROSS....im not a maduro guy anyway..i need me some corojo

SmokinApe 09-20-2009 12:19 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Do cigar makers dye candela cigars green?

bobarian 09-20-2009 12:30 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Dying of maduro wrappers is not an indication of wrapper or cigar quality. Wrappers are dyed to provide consistency and usually used with a naturally fermented wrapper. Heat fermented wrappers are more consistent in color as they are cooked. Natural maduro fermentation can lead to inconsistency. Sometimes this results in blotchy wrappers or differences in color from one batch to another.

Staining on the end of a cigar is not an indication of dye. Dye would only show on the outside(wrapper). Staining on the end is usually a buildup of tar and can occur with any combination of wrapper, binder and filler, not just maduro's. :2

Usually recutting and a good purge can reduce the tarring of the end of your smoke. :tu

adampc22 09-20-2009 12:32 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
i hear thay use human blood muhahahahahahahahahaha

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Red 09-20-2009 02:40 PM

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[quote=adampc22;559210]i hear thay use human blood muhahahahahahahahahaha
/[quote]

at least with human blood you know what your getting!

Ahbroody 09-20-2009 03:35 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 559113)
As long as they don't start using pink dye. ;)

Pink is the new black didnt you know?

bigloo 09-20-2009 04:05 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Keep in mind tabacco had lots of natural oils. When you wet the wrapper these dissolve and the brown could be natural oil coming from the wrapper. Like someone pointed out, think about tea. Take wet tea leave and rub them on a cloth, they will stain.

Giant & 49er Fan 09-20-2009 04:21 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red (Post 559162)
i know RP edge madruo is dyed...will turn your dang lips brown...GROSS....im not a maduro guy anyway..i need me some corojo

Actually it is a heat process that is used. Not dye. It is the same process used by Gurkha, CAO/Torano, Camacho and many other Factories. Michael aka Kelmac is the reason for this because he smokes so many of these maduros we can't keep up with production to ferment these wrapper long enough to get them naturaly that dark.

TripleF 09-20-2009 04:27 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RPguy (Post 559405)
Actually it is a heat process that is used. Not dye. It is the same process used by Gurkha, CAO/Torano, Camacho and many other Factories. Michael aka Kelmac is the reason for this because he smokes so many of these maduros we can't keep up with production to ferment these wrapper long enough to get them naturaly that dark.


I knew it was Mac's fault. :banger


I did just smoke an RP Edge Maduro and don't give a flip about dying or heat process, that's one dang tasty maduro!! :wo

kelmac07 09-20-2009 04:29 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RPguy (Post 559405)
Actually it is a heat process that is used. Not dye. It is the same process used by Gurkha, CAO/Torano, Camacho and many other Factories. Michael aka Kelmac is the reason for this because he smokes so many of these maduros we can't keep up with production to ferment these wrapper long enough to get them naturaly that dark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleF (Post 559415)
I knew it was Mac's fault. :banger

I did just smoke an RP Edge Maduro and don't give a flip about dying or heat process, that's one dang tasty maduro!! :wo

Did someone say MADUROS??? MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :tu :tu

JJG 09-20-2009 04:36 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 559208)
Dying of maduro wrappers is not an indication of wrapper or cigar quality.

well this was my main concern. I don't really smoke many maduros other than the PAMs anyway. I should clarify though it was the outside wrapper than I wiped off, not the end of the cigar where the tar would build up.

Aldebaran 09-20-2009 07:12 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
As far as I know Padron do no dye their cigars, maybe it was just the oils?

Starscream 09-20-2009 07:57 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldebaran (Post 559582)
As far as I know Padron do no dye their cigars, maybe it was just the oils?

Especially the PAM 64. I hope they are not dyed.

Starscream 09-20-2009 07:59 PM

Re: oh no! a dyed wrapper?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 559202)
Do cigar makers dye candela cigars green?

:hm
Interesting question. Candela wrappers come in many different shades of green.


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