Originally Posted by dentonparrots (Post 442900)

Since the guy died I've heard LOADS of jokes about his death. I expected a flood of them within hours of hearing of his demise but not THIS many :r:r

Originally Posted by Wolfgang (Post 443108)

Way Too soon. :2

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 443177)

Too many too soon!!

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly (Post 443190)

I have heard none. Most people I know are adults.

MCS

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 442971)

I've heard a whole lot. I think that at this point, the MJ jokes are in poor taste. Wait a week or so at least. Give the family and fans some time to mourn.

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 442971)

I've heard a whole lot. I think that at this point, the MJ jokes are in poor taste.

Originally Posted by DougBushBC (Post 443347)

To be completely honest, I normally would agree with the poor taste, but there are a few things that I find completely and utterly unforgivable, and Child Molestation is one of them. There is no excuse, even psycological problems, for that.

If you believe that he never did those things (heard a few people say this), then you are absolutely living pie in the sky with your rose colored glasses, paying a family $20 million may not convict him but it proves that the MANY claims were true.

Originally Posted by AD720 (Post 443395)

So you know that to be true? For a fact?

In 1993: no criminal charges filed - lack of strong enough evidence
In 2005: found not guilty on all charges in a jury trial

Have you read anything about the accusations in 1993? About the family and their alleged motives? How about the 2005 People v Jackson case? About the contradictory testimony given by the alleged victims?

Settling out of court proves nothing but an attempt at avoiding a long drawn out trial in which much more money would have been spent in lawyers fees. I'm inclined to believe that if the alleged molestation occurred the family would simply not be satisfied with a monetary settlement and would not rest until justice was served.


But I'm not trying to convince you, you've made up your mind. As have I until the time if/when more evidence comes to light. Go ahead and believe what you want but don't tell people that they are naive just because they disagree with your assessment of the situation.

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 443465)

I'm with you, and I read very closely through the years.
What I got out of the whole deal is that he definately molested many children, but thought it was okay because he thinks he's a kid and it's natural for kids to "explore".
It all adds up. Right up to the end.

Originally Posted by AD720 (Post 443469)

That's actually not what I was saying at all. If you are are saying that he molested children but thought it was OK then you are most definitely not with me.

My point was not to start a debate on what happened but to make the point (to the member that I responded to) that it is possible for someone to believe what they want about this situation and not only not be naive but quite possibly be well informed.

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 443478)

I think the second part is what I was agreeing with. :)

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 443478)

I don't think he ever molested children in the definative (legal) sense of the word, or maybe he did.
I do believe he did things he shouldn't have on many levels, on hundreds if not thousands of occasions.
In any event, I'm not his judge. I think he was a tortured soul, and he's far better off now.
So far as the jokes go, he went out of his way to make sure he earned them. Most guys just have a swingset in the back yard for the kids, ya know?