Kratom - Do you take?
 

Does anyone here take Kratom?

It has several benefits from increasing energy, stamina, to treating many ailments. A tablespoon in a shot glass with water will get you amped like it should be illegal. There are different strains with wildly varying effects.

I recently started with a green strain and it energizes like nothing that I can think off hand. Kind of like coke, but no crazed thoughts and all that. If taken in the morning, I don't need food for like 5 hours. Back pain is reduced, spirits are high.

Worth checking out.

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I have never heard of it before your post Moses. A quick read show some scary possible side effects though.

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I was introduced to it by a friend who owns a successful fitness and yoga studios.

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Check out netflix's "A Leaf of Faith" it gives a little bit of insight on it. I watched it a while back but basically forgot about it till this thread.

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Moses, do you or your friend have a trusted source to purchase from?
This thread has rekindled my interest.

Not sure if allowed by mods, so please edit this post if necessary or pm me, thanks.

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It is not illegal in the US and easily purchased, at least according to this site

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/kratom

So I don't see a reason to edit your post, Greg.

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I'm intrigued. I'd like to hear what brand you're using, Moses. :tu

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All:

This is the place I bought it from https://www.krabot.com/

There are many different kinds and I really cannot offer much on what is what. My wife's sister has nephropathy and the kratom she takes immensely mitigates her issues.

The one I bought is https://www.krabot.com/collections/p...green-maeng-da

I would start with half a tablespoon with just enough water to shot it down. Stuff tastes awful nothing you can do can mask it. Tastes like Spirulina x3. Just down a shot and have some more water after that. Drive to gym, work on that project, walk the dog.... Last for a few hours.

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My wife is in constant pain and takes opioids. She has a medical marijuana card but she won't use it as much as the doc tells her to. I wonder if I got some of the capsules if it would help her?

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Thank you Mark!

Thank you Moses. The only thing I remember from A Leaf of Faith is that it’s hard to get a credible/safe source for kratom.

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Thank you for the info, Moses. So you would recommend the one you've been buying?

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Yes, I would recommend that variety and vendor I bought from. I actually took some shortly after typing this thread yesterday (little less than a tablespoon) in a couple of oz of warm water. I had euphoric feeling for a few hours. Was driving my wife nuts.

I would not recommend the capsules; need to take too many and probably hit you really hard.

As for pain, I would recommend it immediately over taking opiates or weed. $25 gamble and if one does not see benefit, the loss is minimal. Save the weed for just getting high lol.

I bought the energizing kind. You'll have an epic workout or whatever comes next after taking it. I don't use it often; may be 1-2 a week?

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Buy the powder that fits her use case. Some knock you door, others lift you up. The one I have lifts, but helps my back pain too.

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This.

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Thanks Moses. :tu

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Why does she not to use the marijuana that much? Is it that she does not like the the smoking part? For some it can be a lot of work and they worry about the smoke in there lungs. Using the vape cartages make it very easy and discrete. (but some worry about the scare they had, but that was black-market cartages). There are other devices that will turn buds into vapor with no flame, so no worry of carcinogens from smoke. (have done a lot of research and be glad to point in in the right direction if you need) PM me
Then there is edibles!

I would much rather see her using cannabis instead of opioids to maybe help cut back on them!!!

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This stuff has been around a very very long time but can become Various Kratom Strains and Their Effects:

There are many strains of Mitragynine. Each variety offers unique chemical properties that cause certain medicinal effects. Some of the most popular strains include:

Bali, which offers a euphoric effect and other effects similar to opioid use.
Green Vein Kali, which is a stimulating strain with painkiller attributes.
Maeng Da, which offers an energizing effect that also relieves pain.
Red Vein Kali, which has a sedative effect that mimics opioids.
Ultra Enhanced Indo, which is an extract with strong euphoric effects. It is often used to treat social anxiety.
White Vein Kali, which has a euphoric and dissociating effect.
Other than the extract, most individuals will only need 1/2 to 3 teaspoons of the leaves to achieve the desired effect. Less than a gram of extracts will offer up the same effects as the leaves. Extracts are much more potent.

For years, kratom has been used to treat pain, social anxiety and other conditions and disorders. Only a small dosage is needed to achieve the results desired. This is why indigenous people tend to love this natural drug. It’s effective, affordable and versatile.

Like all things it can lead to both physical and psychological dependence. Just be careful ;)

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Thanks. She does use the vape option. We get it from a dispensary so it's legit as you say. I don't know for sure why but I suspect that since she was never a pot smoker in her younger days, there's the stigma for her. I try to encourage her to use it more to no avail. But even with the small amount she uses she has been able to cut back on the opioids some so it's better than none I guess.

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You have to convince her that it's her Meds with a binafit. The binafit is that she can reduce the opioids that are very hard on her body. I know that most of the carts are very high in the like 23 % +. Look for a lower tch a blend of cbd and thc a lot of those are only 8.9 thc and 12.9 cbd. The cbd helps with the stress and the thc will only give you a mild high that last only a few hrs. Start checking on line places for a 1:1 cart like a strain called ac/dc and there are a few others. I will look up the stains and post back. Maybe trying a low dose gummy bear 5 mil start with eating a 1/2 and go form there. It takes longer to work maybe up to an hr.

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The dispensary we buy from is Suterra. They have different mixes like you said, and when we made our first order they were very good at listening to her ailments and recommended certain one's for early and certain ones for bedtime. I have tried to talk to her many times and it's like she gets aggravated at me for it so I tend to not say much to her. I go with her to all her Doctor appts. and I have told her doctors and they have encouraged her to use it more too to not much avail. She will hit it maybe twice a day. Maybe I will buy her some of the edibles and try that and see if it helps. Thanks for the info and Moses I am sorry for hijacking your thread brother.

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Yeah Moses I did not mean to highjack the tread. When I see someone in pain or having a problem I just want to help. Back in my younger years I was a very bing stoner but have not partake in well over 25 years. But when I developed spinal stenosis and lots of anxiety. Moving my mom into my home and taking on the roll of full time caregiver from my mom for the last 3 years till she recently passed. In calif. with the legalization of cannabis I started to do a ton of research and spent many hours reading and talking to people on this new way of looking at cannabis as medicine.

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I know weed helps with pain and many things, but for pure pain euphoric feeling I think the Kratom works better. No reason not use either one even at the same time...

The Kratom would be less often as it's a bit to swallow down and can be more dramatic feeling than smoking most pot if you're use to it.

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Off to research Kratom bongs. -(P

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Just took 2tsp of Kratom and it's a good starting amount if you want test the waters.

I hope some here roll the dice and make a purchase.

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I plan to give it a shot, but will wait until the coronavirus restrictions slow down, no sense in getting a burst of energy if I can't go to the gym or to work.

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Just get your arse outside and do something. Why wait?

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I would do the Kratom for performance enhancement, and would do that with my normal routine so I could best judge its improvement (or lack of) to my workouts. But I just found a place to train (private), so I may put in that order today.

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I am taking Kratom for many years. The finest strain of Kratom is Red Banjar. It has many benefits, including addiction recovery, relieve anxiety, and pain. I always buy Red Banjar Kratom online at supernaturalbotanicals.com
SNB is the most trusted online kratom vendor in California.

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So, how are those pills working out for you, tiny?

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took my first dose today......not a lot of response

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What does that mean? Which one did you buy and how much did you take?

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I follow Mark Smelly Bell on social media and podcasts. He's the brother of Chris Bell, who directed "Leaf of Faith" and both are huge advocates of kratom. I've thought about dabbling with kratom on several occasions when I've been in a rut. But the thought of addiction and dependence has held me back. I've been down that road before and don't want to go back there. What are your thoughts on the addictive traits of kratom? Is it something you can cycle through with minimal side effects?

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Well, the friend who introduced me to Kratom stopped taking it as he thought it was becoming addictive and was able to do so easily. He is someone who gets addicted to things easily.

Now, I only take it before a bike ride or if I need to concentrate for hours and don't want to worry about food. I don't take it every bike ride, but maybe once a week. Luckily the taste is so awful, there is no joy in taking it. Certainly works.

I take the Green Maeng Da, around 1/2 tsp and it feels pretty natural and seamless. 1 tsp to really kick it up. My friend was doing about 1 tblspn which for me was like banging lines!

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ive been using it for a couple years now. works well for me.. i use Red Fibro has 5% extract. best for pain. i buy it by the kilo