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macpappy 01-02-2009 08:44 PM

When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
This reinforces the argument we all have made against using a Cigar tax to fund SCHIP - that higher taxes will reduce sales and means less taxes being collected.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090103/...us/mileage_tax

TripleF 01-02-2009 08:46 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Time for a revolution!!!

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Ace$nyper 01-02-2009 08:56 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Holy crap...

That just makes me so mad.

I could rant for hours.

We have good men and women fighting and dying for us, and they can come home to that? Being hugely punished when they need to take a late night TP run.

I'm just getting really depressed anytime I read the news.

Tombstone 01-02-2009 09:03 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleF (Post 146966)
Time for a revolution!!!

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:tpd: Way overdue.

CigarDood 01-02-2009 09:06 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macpappy (Post 146961)
This reinforces the argument we all have made against using a Cigar tax to fund SCHIP - that higher taxes will reduce sales and means less taxes being collected.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090103/...us/mileage_tax


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve

Tombstone 01-02-2009 09:08 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarDood (Post 146985)

Smart man. I was wondering if someone was going to bring that up.

white_s2k 01-02-2009 09:50 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Wow.. wtf is happening to this country? :c

taltos 01-03-2009 04:47 AM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
The last time we threw chests of tea into Boston Harbor. This time we need to throw politicians into Boston Harbor. Keep your guns oiled and your powder dry.:fl

ashmaster 01-03-2009 05:07 AM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
I don't have to say it, but I will. This is nothing but a bunch of bulls**t. Nothing like kicking us some more while we're down!!! :fl

Doogie 01-03-2009 06:06 AM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
i would throw some cigars into Boston Harbor

Genetic Defect 01-03-2009 06:08 AM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 146981)
:tpd: Way overdue.

and knowing is half the battle

MadAl 01-03-2009 06:39 AM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
So if folks drive less will they put implants in our asses to monitor leg movement?

cvm4 01-03-2009 06:52 AM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
An ingenious way of monitoring where your citizens are too. Hello Big Brother!

Smokin Gator 01-03-2009 07:43 AM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Our founding fathers must be worn out from turning over in their graves!!!

GoatLocker 01-03-2009 11:56 AM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Oregon is not alone. Congress has prepared a proposal to increase federal gas tax, as has the California senate (and I'm sure most other states). If both the CA and FED taxes get through, I'll be paying some .30/gal more in gas taxes. Apparently, this is what we the people want, since "we" elected these clowns...:rolleyes: With one party in control, who will stand in their way?

mojo65 01-03-2009 12:10 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Its time to flush ever tax and spend politician from all forms of government. Federal State and Local.

houdini 01-03-2009 12:20 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleF (Post 146966)
Time for a revolution!!!

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:tpd:

Heliofire 01-03-2009 12:27 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
That is a big WTF, no they won't track our whereabouts. Oh wait yes they will they just won't tell you.:fl:mad::fu

Ace$nyper 01-03-2009 12:32 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heliofire (Post 147787)
That is a big WTF, no they won't track our whereabouts. Oh wait yes they will they just won't tell you.:fl:mad::fu

Odometer roll backs are now a terrorist crime punishable by death.

darb85 01-03-2009 02:22 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Tolls. nuff said. THey make more sense, and only charge the people using the roads! Ya. The odds that you are actually going to get me to install that bs in my car is nil to nothin.

Cigary 01-03-2009 03:14 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos (Post 147287)
The last time we threw chests of tea into Boston Harbor. This time we need to throw politicians into Boston Harbor. Keep your guns oiled and your powder dry.:fl

Ditto!!

Genetic Defect 01-03-2009 03:15 PM

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....

Opusfxd 01-03-2009 04:27 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
So if you go offroad, do you get a credit? Time to fire up the bicycles.

Asher 01-03-2009 04:31 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleF (Post 146966)
Time for a revolution!!!

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Over a mileage tax? I personally think this tax is a stupid idea, and there are a lot of things the government is doing with which I strongly disagree, but revolution is a word that should not be tossed about lightly.

Genetic Defect 01-03-2009 04:33 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Asher (Post 148074)
Over a mileage tax? I personally think this tax is a stupid idea, and there are a lot of things the government is doing with which I strongly disagree, but revolution is a word that should not be tossed about lightly.

maybe he feels that way due to the compilation of :bs rolling down here.

cvm4 01-03-2009 05:19 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoatLocker (Post 147756)
Oregon is not alone. Congress has prepared a proposal to increase federal gas tax, as has the California senate (and I'm sure most other states). If both the CA and FED taxes get through, I'll be paying some .30/gal more in gas taxes. Apparently, this is what we the people want, since "we" elected these clowns...:rolleyes: With one party in control, who will stand in their way?

True enough...Say hello to a 50% federal gas tax:

http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/...ds-50-gas-tax/

Tombstone 01-03-2009 05:33 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Asher (Post 148074)
Over a mileage tax? I personally think this tax is a stupid idea, and there are a lot of things the government is doing with which I strongly disagree, but revolution is a word that should not be tossed about lightly.

You do understand that we are already taxed at 40-50% already?:fl

Asher 01-03-2009 05:49 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 148152)
You do understand that we are already taxed at 40-50% already?:fl

This isn't a dictatorship or a banana republic. We have a lot of options for improving this country. Revolution should be a last resort, and in my opinion things are nowhere near bad enough for such a dramatic and devastating course of action.

I assume (hope!) that most of this is just overly dramatic hyperbole.

Genetic Defect 01-03-2009 06:03 PM

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http://random-sheep.com/images/wool_over_eyes.jpg

Tombstone 01-03-2009 06:07 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 148200)

:r

Steve 01-03-2009 07:50 PM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
I wonder if any politician remembers Boston, sometime around 1776?


Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleF (Post 146966)
Time for a revolution!!!

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macpappy 01-04-2009 06:10 AM

Re: When Tax Revenue drops - they find a new tax
 
A revolution doesn't have to be violent or involve overthrowing the government with arms. It can also be a peaceful revolution which takes place every time we go to the voting booth. Instead of blindly voting for someone based solely on their political affiliation, we should show our displeasure with the government by voting those currently in office out of office. Elect people who will serve as our representative and the not the representative of the party they belong too. Vote against anyone who talks about keeping "their party" in power.

Smoking Dragon 01-04-2009 06:52 AM

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That does it. I'm packing up the cigars and crossing the border into Mexico, illegally ofcourse. To give em 2 points to think about. :fu


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