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ChicagoWhiteSox 01-11-2014 05:16 PM

2014 MLB Thread
 
Might as well get this going for the new year:)



Jerry, get the checkbook out and let's get Tanaka!

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icehog3 01-11-2014 05:19 PM

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I miss Prince.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-11-2014 05:21 PM

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I still don't get that move Tom, he was a major part of the Tigers offense.

AdamJoshua 01-11-2014 05:26 PM

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Well here's to hoping the RedSox get picked to finish last in their division again!

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ChicagoWhiteSox 01-11-2014 05:59 PM

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It's hard typing with crossed fingers!
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kelmac07 01-11-2014 06:15 PM

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Hoping we field a MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM this year and not another AAA one.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-11-2014 07:14 PM

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Reinsdorf and company did just save $20 million by the Bulls giving Deng away.:r:r There's no doubt the Sox have the money to spend and can play the bidding war, however that's not the issue. Tanaka will have to want to come to Chicago over the west coast (likely where he ends up)

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-11-2014 07:19 PM

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Something else I thought was interesting with Tanaka, Kenny Williams was quoted in the Sun-Times as saying he was out of town "on White Sox business" when he wasn't at the Hurt's HOF press conference.. Of which will result in very good news for Sox fans in a couple days... At the very least, the Sox are going to be bidding high for Tanaka.

qwerty1500 01-12-2014 06:12 AM

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Normally start the season convinced that the Cards need pitching. This year may be different for a change ... 8 potential starters for 5 slots. We'll see. What are we, just a few weeks from report day?

CigarSquid 01-12-2014 08:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1922371)
Hoping we field a MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM this year and not another AAA one.

I hear ya. A's have done that for a while. 2 years in a row to playoffs, 2 years in a row knocked out. Maybe this year they can make it further.

Looking forward to the season.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-12-2014 06:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1922516)
I hear ya. A's have done that for a while. 2 years in a row to playoffs, 2 years in a row knocked out. Maybe this year they can make it further.

Looking forward to the season.

A's have had a very nice team the past couple years, hardly AAA.

AdamJoshua 01-12-2014 06:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1922648)
A's have had a very nice team the past couple years, hardly AAA.

We just have a different opinion on what a AAA team is, his AAA team makes the playoffs 2 years in a row :r


Oh A-Roid 60 minutes tonight, this should be fun.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-12-2014 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 1922652)
We just have a different opinion on what a AAA team is, his AAA team makes the playoffs 2 years in a row :r


Oh A-Roid 60 minutes tonight, this should be fun.

Yeah, you want an example of triple A? Look no further than west 35th street, Chicago IL:gary

A-Roid is full of lies

CigarSquid 01-12-2014 07:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1922648)
A's have had a very nice team the past couple years, hardly AAA.

Before that, I was saying. The A's did nothing but there AAA team, the Rivercats would win quite a bit. Nothing for the major's

AdamJoshua 01-12-2014 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1922653)
A-Roid is full of lies

You know the Yankees are trying to figure out how to void his contract as we speak, at least if he got suspended for 1+ years they had an out on having to pay him, but with it under a year they are boned, granted it makes me smile.

I can't see how they can even let him show up for spring training, I'm assuming he won't with the ban in place, of course he will say everything that guy said was a lie and how he is going to sue everyone in the northern hemisphere how they are all out to get him and try to deflect this and blame others. He's a lying sack of crap.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-12-2014 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 1922670)
You know the Yankees are trying to figure out how to void his contract as we speak, at least if he got suspended for 1+ years they had an out on having to pay him, but with it under a year they are boned, granted it makes me smile.

I can't see how they can even let him show up for spring training, I'm assuming he won't with the ban in place, of course he will say everything that guy said was a lie and how he is going to sue everyone in the northern hemisphere how they are all out to get him and try to deflect this and blame others. He's a lying sack of crap.

I bet there's language in his contract that has him covered. With the Yanks needing someone at third, maybe that lowers the interest in Tanaka.

The Poet 01-12-2014 08:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1922672)
I bet there's language in his contract that has him covered. With the Yanks needing someone at third, maybe that lowers the interest in Tanaka.

Yeah, the Yankees are always frugal when it comes to buying players.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-12-2014 08:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1922685)
Yeah, the Yankees are always frugal when it comes to buying players.

LOL what happened to Cano? Granderson? How do you let them go like that?

AdamJoshua 01-12-2014 08:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1922672)
I bet there's language in his contract that has him covered. With the Yanks needing someone at third, maybe that lowers the interest in Tanaka.

I think originally they were making a case that if he was suspended for over a year they could void his contract and there would be no more payments, interesting that it ended up being 161, one game LESS than a full season.

Maybe Jeter will move to third so a younger prospect can come up and play short :r Just kidding we know that will never happen.

The Poet 01-12-2014 08:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1922687)
LOL what happened to Cano? Granderson? How do you let them go like that?

Grandy's a nice player, but overpaid for a team with 3 CFs. And Robbie's a nicer one to whom the Yanks would have given $24 M a year . . . but for 7 years, not ten. Remember, Cano fired the most mercenary agent in sports, Scott Boras, to go to somebody even more mercenary, Jay Z.

But of course, you'd know nothing about that, as the Black Sox have always kept all their players. :D

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-12-2014 08:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1922694)
Grandy's a nice player, but overpaid for a team with 3 CFs. And Robbie's a nicer one to whom the Yanks would have given $24 M a year . . . but for 7 years, not ten. Remember, Cano fired the most mercenary agent in sports, Scott Boras, to go to somebody even more mercenary, Jay Z.

But of course, you'd know nothing about that, as the Black Sox have always kept all their players. :D

No, I get it, the yanks are frugal and didn't want to spend the money! Seriously, you think they didn't sign Cano because of 3 extra years?

The Poet 01-12-2014 08:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1922699)
No, I get it, the yanks are frugal and didn't want to spend the money! Seriously, you think they didn't sign Cano because of 3 extra years?

You're right, I'm nuts. ;)

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...ball-ends.aspx

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-12-2014 09:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1922703)

I don't get it, the article is claiming that since the Mariners got a "roughly" 2 billion dollar tv deal over 17 years, they were able to outbid the Yankees for Cano? I don't buy it and I certainly wouldn't underestimate your Yankees financial abilities. I'll be honest and say I don't know the full terms of the Yankees tv deals, but I'd venture to say that it's a fairly large revenue stream for them, certainly close to what the Mariners get over 17 years. What about other revenue streams? Tickets, apparel, advertising, sponsorship, premium seating, radio deals, ect... Plus ownership capital contributions.. Yankees did not get outbid by the Mariners for Cano. I'm still left wondering why they didn't resign.

AdamJoshua 01-12-2014 11:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 1922689)
I think originally they were making a case that if he was suspended for over a year they could void his contract and there would be no more payments, interesting that it ended up being 161, one game LESS than a full season.

Maybe Jeter will move to third so a younger prospect can come up and play short :r Just kidding we know that will never happen.

What i heard before was wrong, I was wrong, it's 162 plus the playoffs if the MFYs make it, so we'll see what they do now.

icehog3 01-13-2014 12:22 AM

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I heard a report that Arod would be surrendering approximately 22 of his 25 million dollar salary for 2014, so there must be some loophole that he still gets 3 million without playing a single game.

How will he ever survive on only 3 million dollars? :r

The Poet 01-13-2014 08:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1922743)
How will he ever survive on only 3 million dollars? :r

It's a struggle, believe me.

And I never said the Yankees could not afford to outbid the M's for Cano if they wanted to. I said they didn't want to. They have had enough of huge long-term contracts hanging around their necks, and they have had enough of paying other teams' freight through the luxury tax. The Yanks were also blindsided a bit by Cano, and thought they were in preliminary negotiations when Robbie suddenly jumped the Yankee Clipper for another shipful of sailors. But why are you obsessing over the money, which was NOT the issue? It was the 10 years that was the sticking point, not the cash, and Cashman (who for some strange reason seems to believe he knows Robbie Cano a bit better than the Mariners . . . or you) balked at the prospect of committing to an additional decade with an infielder who's already 31 . . . and who, good as he is psssst, don't tell anybody has a few holes in his game.

Did the Yanks make a mistake? Maybe. Time will tell. One thing's for sure though. Sign him or not sign him, they were gonna get criticized for it either way. They are the Yankees, and that's what people do.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-13-2014 04:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1922780)
It's a struggle, believe me.

And I never said the Yankees could not afford to outbid the M's for Cano if they wanted to. I said they didn't want to. They have had enough of huge long-term contracts hanging around their necks, and they have had enough of paying other teams' freight through the luxury tax. The Yanks were also blindsided a bit by Cano, and thought they were in preliminary negotiations when Robbie suddenly jumped the Yankee Clipper for another shipful of sailors. But why are you obsessing over the money, which was NOT the issue? It was the 10 years that was the sticking point, not the cash, and Cashman (who for some strange reason seems to believe he knows Robbie Cano a bit better than the Mariners . . . or you) balked at the prospect of committing to an additional decade with an infielder who's already 31 . . . and who, good as he is psssst, don't tell anybody has a few holes in his game.

Did the Yanks make a mistake? Maybe. Time will tell. One thing's for sure though. Sign him or not sign him, they were gonna get criticized for it either way. They are the Yankees, and that's what people do.

Never said it but certainly implied it:r "Yeah, the Yankees are always frugal when it comes to buying players."
You're right, I'm nuts.
http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...ball-ends.aspx

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If I'm Yanks and money really isn't an issue, why not just look at it this way: 7 year deal for $34 million a year? Just write off the back end of this contract..

Granderson signed for 4 years, $15 million a year. Certainly a re-signable contract I think.

I do think Tanaka will likely end up in NY, either there or LAA. LAD don't need pitching, also Kershaw causes problems down the road if they have both him and Tanaka to deal with.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-13-2014 04:55 PM

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In other news, A-Roid files suit against MLB and the union. Seeking to vacate ban for 2014.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/14/sp...ef=sports&_r=0

AdamJoshua 01-13-2014 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1922949)
In other news, A-Roid files suit against MLB and the union. Seeking to vacate ban for 2014.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/14/sp...ef=sports&_r=0


No surprise here at all, Aroid needs to be on the front page and on tv as much as possible, since he will never make the "800 HR Club" now, this is his only option to feed his enormous ****ing ego. I do love the fact that the union at least tried to stick up for him (even though you know they are shitting their pants over this mess and the longer Aroid drags it out the worse it is for other players as well), they said it was unfair of baseball to be part of the interview, yet so was the arbitrator as well as Aroid's own lawyers.

I can't wait till he's just an old memory, it's funny the loathing some have for him, he who could well be known in the future as the biggest cheater in the history of MLB.

AdamJoshua 01-13-2014 05:25 PM

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In the end, he thinks he's bigger than the game. That's his biggest mistake.

icehog3 01-13-2014 07:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 1922958)
In the end, he thinks he's bigger than the game. That's his biggest mistake.

Don't hate the game....Hate the playa. :D

AdamJoshua 01-13-2014 07:53 PM

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"NEW YORK -- In the final analysis, the arbitrator found the word of a "drug dealer'' to be more credible than that of Alex Rodriguez."


That about sums it up :r

dman4505 01-14-2014 03:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1922371)
Hoping we field a MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM this year and not another AAA one.

Only Triple A team playing in the majors resides on the north side of Chicago at Clark & Addison.

Don

icehog3 01-14-2014 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dman4505 (Post 1923347)
Only Triple A team playing in the majors resides on the north side of Chicago at Clark & Addison.

Don

They won more games than the White Sox. Marlins and Astros too, for that matter.

The Poet 01-14-2014 08:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1922780)
The Yanks were also blindsided a bit by Cano, and thought they were in preliminary negotiations when Robbie suddenly jumped the Yankee Clipper for another shipful of sailors.


Did the Yanks make a mistake? Maybe. Time will tell. One thing's for sure though. Sign him or not sign him, they were gonna get criticized for it either way. They are the Yankees, and that's what people do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1922947)

If I'm Yanks and money really isn't an issue, why not just look at it this way: 7 year deal for $34 million a year? Just write off the back end of this contract..

Granderson signed for 4 years, $15 million a year. Certainly a re-signable contract I think.


Do you only read those parts of posts that suit you? :r The Yanks might have payed Cano more per year than Seattle had Jay Z and Robbie given them the chance. As for Grandy, I hope for Mac's sake that the Mets get their money's worth, since the Yanks did not the last 2 years. Last season he only played 61 games, batted .229 with 15 RBIs. He did have a good 2012 regular season, when he earned his $10 M (not $15 M in '12), but went a sterling 3 for 30 in the post-season.

Then there remains the fact that, with the signing of Cano by Seattle and Grandy by the Mets, folks like you are criticizing the Yanks and talking as if the Yankees had a march stolen on them and blew it big time. On the other hand, had the Yankees signed Cano and Grandy to the exact same contracts as they got in Seattle and Queens, folks like you would be criticizing the Yankees for overpaying for two more aging players in an attempt to purchase another championship. Don't bother to deny it . . . I've seen it too often before. It does not matter what the Yankees do, people will find fault regardless of which way they go.

And finally, there's this: Brother, I have no problem whatsoever believing you know a great deal more about the White Sox than I do. Can you perhaps entertain for a second the wild thought that I might know just a teeny-tiny bit more about the Yankees than you? :D

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-14-2014 09:31 PM

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You're right, I criticize every move they make:rolleyes:

And no, I won't entertain that wild idea;)

If the Yankees sign Tanaka, count on me posting here that they overpaid. If they don't, count on me posting that they missed the boat! :r

AdamJoshua 01-14-2014 09:35 PM

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So an interesting side note to this, so Aroid passed 12 or so random tests, now you start looking at all of the player, people like Chris Davis who out of no where hits 33 HRs a year ago and 50+ last year, when in the previous SIX years he hit around 45 TOTAL HRs ... makes you stop and think. To be fair in a couple of those years he played very few games, but his HR per AB went through the roof. In 115 games, the 3 yr period before his "break out" HR seasons he hit a grant total of 5 HRs.

The Poet 01-14-2014 09:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1923522)
You're right, I criticize every move they make:rolleyes:

And no, I won't entertain that wild idea;)

If the Yankees sign Tanaka, count on me posting here that they overpaid. If they don't, count on me posting that they missed the boat! :r

I believe every one of those statements. :tu

:D

dman4505 01-15-2014 09:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1923383)
They won more games than the White Sox. Marlins and Astros too, for that matter.

That may be but I still think they're not much better than a lot of AAA teams, and I've been a fan since 1972. They may have a few good players on the roster but I don't see any real superstars that's going to get them to the playoffs much less ever win a championship any time soon.

Don

icehog3 01-15-2014 10:39 AM

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I understand the general sentiment, Don, but it you follow baseball realistically, the Cubs or any MLB team would beat an AAA team 19 times out of 20. JMHO.

The Poet 01-15-2014 01:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1923708)
I understand the general sentiment, Don, but it you follow baseball realistically, the Cubs or any MLB team would beat an AAA team 19 times out of 20. JMHO.

Not sure the dominance would be that great, but maybe so. Two things make me question 19 of 20. One, it all depends on pitching, and a young AAA phenom can outpitch a #4 or #5 starter at times. Two, baseball is different than other sports, in that you cannot outmuscle or outphysical the opponent. Grounders bounce funny, pop flies drop for doubles, pick-offs end up in the dugout, some hitter flirting with the Mendoza line goes 4 for 5 . . . baseball's weird. JM :2, and worth every penny.

icehog3 01-15-2014 02:24 PM

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OK, I'll drop to 17.5 of 20, Thomas. :D

Scherzer filed for arbitration today, give the man whatever he seeks. He has different colored eyes, for God's sake!!

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ChicagoWhiteSox 01-15-2014 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1923771)
Not sure the dominance would be that great, but maybe so. Two things make me question 19 of 20. One, it all depends on pitching, and a young AAA phenom can outpitch a #4 or #5 starter at times. Two, baseball is different than other sports, in that you cannot outmuscle or outphysical the opponent. Grounders bounce funny, pop flies drop for doubles, pick-offs end up in the dugout, some hitter flirting with the Mendoza line goes 4 for 5 . . . baseball's weird. JM :2, and worth every penny.

Waa??:tf

AdamJoshua 01-15-2014 04:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1923836)
Waa??:tf

I too am requesting explanations! :r

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-15-2014 04:32 PM

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Kershaw gets a mega deal
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/...&vkey=news_mlb

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-15-2014 04:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua (Post 1923838)
I too am requesting explanations! :r

Not me, I've heard enough:r:r

(kidding here Thomas:tu)

AdamJoshua 01-15-2014 05:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1923841)

Holy **** .. now he can pull a zito and never be the same. :r

dman4505 01-15-2014 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1923708)
I understand the general sentiment, Don, but it you follow baseball realistically, the Cubs or any MLB team would beat an AAA team 19 times out of 20. JMHO.

I do follow baseball realistically and it is my opinion that the Cubs are nothing more than a high priced AAA ball club.


Don

The Poet 01-15-2014 06:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 1923836)
Waa??:tf

I don't understand, since unlike that, my post was in English. :D

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-15-2014 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1923918)
I don't understand, since unlike that, my post was in English. :D

May be in English but that still doesn't make it more understandable than my other post!

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/...&vkey=news_mlb

MLB Opening Series games in Australia??


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