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oooo35980 01-10-2013 07:27 PM

Hemingway Signature Sweetened tip?
 
I went to a shop I don't ordinarily go to and bought some sticks today. One was an AF Hemingway Signature, I swear the thing has a sweetened tip. Not like sweet tobacco this one has been dipped or infused in something. I let the wife taste it and she said it tasted fruity (It does, like an ACID almost.) I thought maybe they had let it sit around the ACIDs for too long but the rest of the cigar doesn't taste sweetened (Yes I licked the whole thing.)

This ever happened to anyone else? I don't smoke Hemingways all the time or anything but I can't recall ever having one with a sweetened tip. Maybe I just haven't been paying attention?

never_enough 01-10-2013 07:40 PM

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:r:r:r:r:r

I'm sorry, I can't stop envisioning you licking the whole cigar with a puzzled look on your face

iaMkcK 01-10-2013 07:48 PM

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LOL.. The only one I've smoked tastes like a cigar. Maybe the B&M has females working that wear really strong lotion and showcased the stick to someone before you picked it up, thus imparting a sweet flavor to the tip?

Also, I don't know if saline from your mucus is going to help age your cigar. I would avoid licking cigars in public as well. Might get the wrong image on display.

oooo35980 01-10-2013 07:53 PM

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You just made me think of a possibility involving flavored chap stick, I think I'm going to hurl.

Gabe215 01-10-2013 08:14 PM

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What Robert said!

iaMkcK 01-10-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oooo35980 (Post 1779490)
You just made me think of a possibility involving flavored chap stick, I think I'm going to hurl.

I was going to suggest that, but in all honesty I highly doubt someone in a B&M would pick up a cigar and start puffing on the cap without purchasing it. And I doubt the person working would allow that either. I doubt it was something so sinister anyways.

fauxtrot 01-11-2013 04:34 AM

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That's pretty strange... are you sure it wasn't just the sweetness of the Cameroon wrapper?

Rob_M 01-11-2013 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by never_enough (Post 1779485)
I'm sorry, I can't stop envisioning you licking the whole cigar with a puzzled look on your face

:r:r :sh :r:r

milhouse 01-11-2013 05:50 AM

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There is a crappy b&m by me that I avoid at all cost. I ran in there Christmas Eve, and a customer put the cigar in his mouth inside the
the humidor. I began to watch him. He goes to pay for it, she tells him 9.80. As he hands her his debit card she tells him there is a $10 minimum to use a card. He says ok and asks her to charge his card $10. The woman tells him she can't and tells him to buy some crappy cigarillo on the counter for 1.00 to get over $10. The guy declines. Puts the cigar on the counter and walked out.

Nasty!

oooo35980 01-11-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fauxtrot (Post 1779601)
That's pretty strange... are you sure it wasn't just the sweetness of the Cameroon wrapper?

100% positive.

Brooks W 01-11-2013 01:18 PM

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The Hemingway Series does NOT have a Sweetened tip.

Guaranteed.

cmitch 01-11-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milhouse (Post 1779620)
There is a crappy b&m by me that I avoid at all cost. I ran in there Christmas Eve, and a customer put the cigar in his mouth inside the
the humidor. I began to watch him. He goes to pay for it, she tells him 9.80. As he hands her his debit card she tells him there is a $10 minimum to use a card. He says ok and asks her to charge his card $10. The woman tells him she can't and tells him to buy some crappy cigarillo on the counter for 1.00 to get over $10. The guy declines. Puts the cigar on the counter and walked out.

Nasty!

I would say the B&M got what they deserved. I've charged many cigars at many places that were less than $10 and was never asked to spend 10. I agree, it's nasty because she probably put it right back in the box knowing he had it in his mouth.

Tredegar 01-11-2013 02:58 PM

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I have had this happen before with a AF Short Story. I attribute this to any natural sugars in the leaf.

T.G 01-11-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cmitch (Post 1779859)
I would say the B&M got what they deserved. I've charged many cigars at many places that were less than $10 and was never asked to spend 10. I agree, it's nasty because she probably put it right back in the box knowing he had it in his mouth.

So you are familiar with that specific B&M's terms of agreement with their CC processor as to know what their contractual minimum charge is to not have to pay a fee?

I'm also curious where the assertion that the cigar was placed back in the box came from?

Col. Kurtz 01-12-2013 10:43 AM

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I have had a few hemingways that had a sweet taste to them. I attributed it to the gum used on the wrappers.

x man 01-12-2013 10:47 AM

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are u sure it wasnt a Hemi Sun Grown wrapper

oooo35980 01-15-2013 12:59 PM

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This was absolutely not under any circumstances a natural occuring flavor in the leaf, it wasn't slightly sweet, it was so sweet and cloying that it prompted me to lick the whole darn thing to see wtf was going on.

I guess it could have been the gum, maybe it was overapplied to the cap and that's why it was just the tip that tasted sweet. Now I kind of wish I hadn't pitched it when I thought about the chapstick possibility.

iaMkcK 01-15-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by oooo35980 (Post 1781661)
This was absolutely not under any circumstances a natural occuring flavor in the leaf, it wasn't slightly sweet, it was so sweet and cloying that it prompted me to lick the whole darn thing to see wtf was going on.

I guess it could have been the gum, maybe it was overapplied to the cap and that's why it was just the tip that tasted sweet. Now I kind of wish I hadn't pitched it when I thought about the chapstick possibility.

Wait wait wait.. You licked the whole stick, had your wife taste it.. Didn't smoke it.. And THEN on top of it, threw it out? LOL :noon:noon:noon:noon

bobarian 01-15-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by oooo35980 (Post 1781661)
This was absolutely not under any circumstances a natural occuring flavor in the leaf, it wasn't slightly sweet, it was so sweet and cloying that it prompted me to lick the whole darn thing to see wtf was going on.

I guess it could have been the gum, maybe it was overapplied to the cap and that's why it was just the tip that tasted sweet. Now I kind of wish I hadn't pitched it when I thought about the chapstick possibility.

Not a chance. The substance used to glue the cap and finish the wrap is completely tasteless. If the "glue" in fact had any flavor then we all would have similar experiences as all cigars use similar types of vegetable glue. Just like pectin it adds absolutely no flavor to the cigar. :2

x man 01-15-2013 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oooo35980 (Post 1781661)
This was absolutely not under any circumstances a natural occuring flavor in the leaf, it wasn't slightly sweet, it was so sweet and cloying that it prompted me to lick the whole darn thing to see wtf was going on.

I guess it could have been the gum, maybe it was overapplied to the cap and that's why it was just the tip that tasted sweet. Now I kind of wish I hadn't pitched it when I thought about the chapstick possibility.

Fuente Sun Grown wrappers taste very sweet sometimes.

oooo35980 01-16-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by iaMkcK (Post 1781702)
Wait wait wait.. You licked the whole stick, had your wife taste it.. Didn't smoke it.. And THEN on top of it, threw it out? LOL :noon:noon:noon:noon

Not exactly, I licked the whole stick, let my wife taste it, thought "this is very odd", lit it, smoked an inch or two, thought about chapstick, and then threw it out.

omowasu 01-16-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oooo35980 (Post 1782425)
Not exactly, I licked the whole stick, let my wife taste it, thought "this is very odd", lit it, smoked an inch or two, thought about chapstick, and then threw it out.

At least it didnt taste like a$$....

cmitch 01-16-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1779959)
So you are familiar with that specific B&M's terms of agreement with their CC processor as to know what their contractual minimum charge is to not have to pay a fee?

I'm also curious where the assertion that the cigar was placed back in the box came from?

It's simple. If it's a $10 min., ring it up as a $10 sale. No need in the B&M being a hard ass over .20. As far as him laying down the stick, what do YOU think happened to it? There's a good many B&M's I know would've plopped it back in the box. Maybe all the B&M's you've dealt with have more class than the one's I've seen.

cmitch 01-16-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by iaMkcK (Post 1781702)
Wait wait wait.. You licked the whole stick, had your wife taste it.. Didn't smoke it.. And THEN on top of it, threw it out? LOL :noon:noon:noon:noon

Exactly. I would've smoked that baby up. I have nothing but love for the Hemingway sticks. But, I've never encountered one that tasted like it was sweetened.

hammondc 01-16-2013 07:21 PM

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I have experienced this as well. Only on the signatures though. ShortStorys do not have the sweetness.

T.G 01-16-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cmitch (Post 1782441)
It's simple. If it's a $10 min., ring it up as a $10 sale. No need in the B&M being a hard ass over .20.

While I do agree with you, this does not address the question, nor does it explain how you came to the authoritative knowledge of what that particular B&M's credit card agreement is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmitch (Post 1782441)
As far as him laying down the stick, what do YOU think happened to it? There's a good many B&M's I know would've plopped it back in the box. Maybe all the B&M's you've dealt with have more class than the one's I've seen.

What I think is that you're simply making blind assertions and painting with a very broad brush.

Could it have happened? Sure. Did it? I dunno, I wasn't there.

oooo35980 01-16-2013 09:06 PM

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Well the first time I went in there the guy did tell me to never buy cigars online because the manufacturers make special crappy cigars to sell online and the B&M ones are the only good ones. He said it's why Gurkha is so cheap online.

So yeah...

bighairlogo 01-16-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1782457)
While I do agree with you, this does not address the question, nor does it explain how you came to the authoritative knowledge of what that particular B&M's credit card agreement is.



What I think is that you're simply making blind assertions and painting with a very broad brush.

Could it have happened? Sure. Did it? I dunno, I wasn't there.

you should change your avatar to a wet blanket :2

T.G 01-16-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bighairlogo (Post 1782514)
you should change your avatar to a wet blanket :2

Sorry I exposed some people's logical fallacies. Would you settle for the CUT? I'm kind of attached to Lump, the no-legged dog...

cmitch 01-16-2013 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G.
While I do agree with you, this does not address the question, nor does it explain how you came to the authoritative knowledge of what that particular B&M's credit card agreement is.


Could it have happened? Sure. Did it? I dunno, I wasn't there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1782527)
Sorry I exposed some people's logical fallacies. Would you settle for the CUT? I'm kind of attached to Lump, the no-legged dog...

Or maybe just nit picking, waiting to jump on someone at any given minute for no good reason. I'm at a loss why you feel you need to be so cross over a simple observation by myself that the clerk could've solved the problem with a simple solution instead of pissing off the customer.

In either of your quieries, it makes no difference about what cc policies are when customer service is involved. Too many times people can't look past the rules for a reasonable solution to serve the customer. It's ridiculous or the story would've never made it here to begin with.

So calling my logic a fallacy when I posit that the B&M was out of line in this instance is puzzling when it would appear the author of the story observed these 2 things take place leaving the question hanging as to whether the B&M sucked it up and took the loss by tossing the stick or plopping it back in stock. Making a big deal over .20 would cause any reasonable thinking observer to see it was more than just a reasonable chance they did just that.:2

pnoon 01-16-2013 11:05 PM

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Lets get this thread back on topic.
If you guys want to discuss logical fallacies, wet blankets, nitpicking or $0.20, do so via PM.

Zane 01-17-2013 07:17 AM

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Back on topic!


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