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omowasu 10-13-2012 03:15 PM

Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Its slow on the boards today, but there are a lot of viewers, so lets have some fun. In your opinion, what is the most overhyped cigar line and why? No need to be offended if someones favorite stick shows up here, we all have different tastes! Ill get it started:

Most overhyped cigar: NUB
Why: Paying full price for half of a stick, didnt live up to claims in marketing, average cigar, and marketing materials in B&Ms were ridiculous (full size cardboard NUB cutouts with tiny brochures attached).

What is your take?

pnoon 10-13-2012 03:20 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
IMO, most NC boutique brands are over-hyped.
Tat, Viaje, Nub. The list is endless. At least Tats are decent cigars. Nubs are clown cigars.
To say nothing of the stoopid gimmicky names of some of these new cigars. My Uzi Weighs A Ton? One Shot One Kill? Gimme a friggin break.

Dunkel 10-13-2012 03:33 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Drew Estate products in my opinion are all show and no go.

pektel 10-13-2012 03:34 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Cohiba.

Viaje limited releases may be over hyped. but I'd be lying if i said the skull n bones mystery release isn't one of the best Damn non-Cuban cigars I've ever smoked.

I'll also add any of the super big ring gauge cigars. i gag a little every time i hear a cigar referred to as a behemoth.
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PearlS4 10-13-2012 03:53 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Isn't there some 700 dollar Gurkha going around that reviews very poorly?

lenguamor 10-13-2012 03:58 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
For me, it's Ilusione. I feel like I have given them a fair shot, but I've never had one that I liked, or even finished.

And Nub, obviously.

bobarian 10-13-2012 03:58 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1732622)
IMO, most NC boutique brands are over-hyped.
Tat, Viaje, Nub. The list is endless. At least Tats are decent cigars. Nubs are clown cigars.
To say nothing of the stoopid gimmicky names of some of these new cigars. My Uzi Weighs A Ton? One Shot One Kill? Gimme a friggin break.

Now you're giving someone an idea! :banger

oooo35980 10-13-2012 04:16 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
My local b&m has a thing for Gurkha and RP, I think both of those brands could go away and the world wouldn't be any worse off. The most hyped cigar I've had in a long time is that awful Romeo thing that for some reason seems to be flying off the shelves.

Sauer Grapes 10-13-2012 04:32 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1732622)
IMO, most NC boutique brands are over-hyped.
Tat, Viaje, Nub. The list is endless. At least Tats are decent cigars. Nubs are clown cigars.
To say nothing of the stoopid gimmicky names of some of these new cigars. My Uzi Weighs A Ton? One Shot One Kill? Gimme a friggin break.

Tell us how you really feel. :r

sevans105 10-13-2012 05:02 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...4a55092ca8.jpg

These guys. One trick pony. And not a very good trick. Huge marketing budget for one cigar though.

mahtofire14 10-13-2012 05:33 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
It would be Cohiba for me. Pricey and the flavor and burn of the cigar doesn't warrant paying that much for them.

cmitch 10-13-2012 05:54 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oooo35980 (Post 1732644)
My local b&m has a thing for Gurkha and RP, I think both of those brands could go away and the world wouldn't be any worse off. The most hyped cigar I've had in a long time is that awful Romeo thing that for some reason seems to be flying off the shelves.

You took the words clean out of my brain!:tu

Ogre 10-13-2012 06:07 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Gurkha and RP

BHalbrooks 10-13-2012 06:21 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sevans105;

These guys. One trick pony. And not a very good trick. Huge marketing budget for one cigar though.

...No, just no.

My most opinion on the most over rated would be any NC Cohiba. They're good, but not nearly worth the price.

Also Ghurkas are obviously at the top of the list as well.

Fordman4ever 10-13-2012 06:24 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Ghurkas. fo sho

RobR1205 10-13-2012 06:31 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PearlS4 (Post 1732631)
Isn't there some 700 dollar Gurkha going around that reviews very poorly?

His Majesty's Reserve! Not only is it a Gurkha, but it's apparently infused with an entire bottle of St. Louis XIII Cognac....:pu

Here's the link if you wanna by a box...only $15000!

http://www.cigar.com/cigars/viewcigar.asp?brand=456 <--no affiliation

But in all seriousness, I personally feel that Gurkha, 5 Vegas, and Acid are way overrated, but don't deliver. Then again, these companies gotta be doing something right since they sell like crazy.

dvickery 10-13-2012 06:34 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
behikes or bhk's or whatever...they may be a good cigar or they may be a bad cigar...i dont know never smoked one...but certainly the most (over)hyped cuban cigars in decades.

derrek

ninjavanish 10-13-2012 06:58 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
"Let's all pick a cigar we don't like and trash talk it a little."

Seems like an awfully negative thread... I for one see several cigars listed above that I enjoy.

I don't have any problem with a company using creative marketing to increase sales. Everyone has different tastes, overhyped to you may be just what someone else enjoys.

Remember that not so long ago we were in the boom and brands and ad strategies were much more verbose or hyped-up than now... I mean, seriously, go back and look at some of the old cigar ads from the 90s, many of them would have you believe by simply smoking a cigar, you could just go ahead and climb out of your yacht and onto your private jet.

DaBear 10-13-2012 07:32 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
CC: Cohiba, wasn't impressed with the Siglo (IV or V, cant remember) I tried, nowhere near the hype they get

NC: Between regular Opus(as I haven't had the pleasure of trying any of the rarer stuff) and, because while they can be great with proper age, I see no point in paying $15+ on a cigar I'm gonna have to sit on at least 3 years before it gets decent(I do smoke them fresh out of losing patience and to remind myself why they need the time); and Liga Privadas, while I love the No. 9s, the T52s are horrid, as are the FFPs(which I picked up one more to revisit, lets hope 3rd time is the charm), not to mention the sheer lack of availability of them. I understand if you want to keep the production small, but don't go giving every one and their mother an account and making them damn near impossible to be found.

maninblack 10-13-2012 07:42 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Any Cuban stick, IMHO. Boring.

INT 10-13-2012 07:57 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkel (Post 1732624)
Drew Estate products in my opinion are all show and no go.

Interdasting. Even the ligas and undercrowns?

kelmac07 10-13-2012 09:05 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack (Post 1732714)
Any Cuban stick, IMHO. Boring.

This for me as well. Guess it all goes back to "smoke what you like, like what you smoke".

Robulous78 10-13-2012 11:21 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sevans105 (Post 1732655)
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...4a55092ca8.jpg

These guys. One trick pony. And not a very good trick. Huge marketing budget for one cigar though.

Looks like it would taste about as good as my dogs turd... Glad I never saw these in stores...

Robulous78 10-13-2012 11:23 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Personally, I have to say Gurkha, Yes there are some decent lines like the Spec Ops, but they have so many lines and so much market saturation I am weary of trying any of their sticks I haven't read closely on for fear of spending my money on a stick with little to no taste...

ChicagoWhiteSox 10-13-2012 11:25 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Any NC

Ismith75 10-13-2012 11:33 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Trinidad.

icehog3 10-13-2012 11:54 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack (Post 1732714)
Any Cuban stick, IMHO. Boring.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1732741)
This for me as well.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/blahblah.gif :lr

A good cigar can be overhyped. Like ninja said, lots of cigars I have enjoyed taking a beating, but a cigar can be good, yet still be over-hyped.

Recently for me it has been the Tat mini-monsters. Much ado about nothing.

area51 10-14-2012 01:52 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Gurkha, Nub and Rocky.

JohnRogers 10-14-2012 03:18 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack (Post 1732714)
Any Cuban stick, IMHO. Boring.

Agreed they seem to be all hype. I probably had ten in the last three years and not got one yet. I'm not saying a good Cuban doesn't exist but I'm having doubts.

Dunkel 10-14-2012 05:29 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by INT (Post 1732719)
Interdasting. Even the ligas and undercrowns?

Liga #9 are OK, T-52 sucked, and Undercrown was the best of the 3 but still not worth the price. When I can get a box of 601 Blues for $70 give or take and DPG JJ Maduros Beli's for $114, both of which I like better than the Undercrown no way I'd pay that much for a box of Undercrowns.

gbum 10-14-2012 06:07 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkel (Post 1732850)
When I can get a box of 601 Blues for $70 give or take

:hm

care to share with me the source?:salute::salute::salute:

bighairlogo 10-14-2012 06:27 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gbum (Post 1732851)
:hm

care to share with me the source?:salute::salute::salute:

you can go on famous's cigar monster/name your price right now and get a box for 65 shipped

maninblack 10-14-2012 06:57 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1732795)
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/blahblah.gif :lr

A good cigar can be overhyped. Like ninja said, lots of cigars I have enjoyed taking a beating, but a cigar can be good, yet still be over-hyped.

Recently for me it has been the Tat mini-monsters. Much ado about nothing.

I agree Tom about the mini monsters. Just aren't doing anything for me. Very boring smokes.

68TriShield 10-14-2012 07:10 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PearlS4 (Post 1732631)
Isn't there some 700 dollar Gurkha going around that reviews very poorly?

Yes,it's insulting to me.But I guess somebody buys them.
Has anyone here ever had or tasted one?

<crickets>

Dunkel 10-14-2012 07:42 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gbum (Post 1732851)
:hm

care to share with me the source?:salute::salute::salute:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bighairlogo (Post 1732854)
you can go on famous's cigar monster/name your price right now and get a box for 65 shipped

Yep, that and CI/Cigar.com has them on sale often for $35-37.50 a 10 pack.

INT 10-14-2012 08:31 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkel (Post 1732850)
Liga #9 are OK, T-52 sucked, and Undercrown was the best of the 3 but still not worth the price. When I can get a box of 601 Blues for $70 give or take and DPG JJ Maduros Beli's for $114, both of which I like better than the Undercrown no way I'd pay that much for a box of Undercrowns.

Understood. Thanks.

gbum 10-14-2012 08:35 AM

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thank you doug and taylor!

so sorry for hijacking this thread...

kelmac07 10-14-2012 08:41 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield (Post 1732867)
Yes,it's insulting to me.But I guess somebody buys them.
Has anyone here ever had or tasted one?

<crickets>

Gurkha His Majestys' Reserve...EricF brought one to Doms herf last year and we did a PPP with it. I actually took two puffs and would have been mad as hell if I had bought that stick. Total garbage!! :2

icehog3 10-14-2012 10:46 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRogers (Post 1732840)
Agreed they seem to be all hype. I probably had ten in the last three years and not got one yet. I'm not saying a good Cuban doesn't exist but I'm having doubts.

10 whole Cubans? Oh, yeah, write them suckers off!

:noon ;s

N2 GOLD 10-14-2012 11:05 AM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1732741)
This for me as well. Guess it all goes back to "smoke what you like, like what you smoke".

AGREE, thank you Mac... To each his own... :ss

Dunkel 10-14-2012 12:51 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Don't y'all dare say anything bad about CC's now. The muckety mucks will get out their torches and pitchforks! :tg

MajorCaptSilly 10-14-2012 01:06 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Any of the grape flavored cigars are overhyped. It's a very artificial grape taste.


MCS

icehog3 10-14-2012 01:25 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkel (Post 1733057)
Don't y'all dare say anything bad about CC's now. The muckety mucks will get out their torches and pitchforks! :tg

No, it seems that the only cigars "in general" (i.e, not a specific brand) that are getting badmouthed are Cubans. :tg :tg

Sincerely,

An Apparent "Muckety Muck".

So much for "smoke what you like, like what you smoke", huh? :rolleyes:

bobarian 10-14-2012 03:09 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Because one might prefer to smoke a particular over another does not necessarily mean that cigars they dont like are "over-hyped" Many "serious" cigar smokers do not smoke Macanudo's but they are still among the best selling cigars in the industry. Rocky Patel has built an empire bringing his cigars to the masses. Today it is chic to bash the boutique makers such as Jon Drew, Pete Johnson and Dion Gioloto. All have their haters and followers. Same with some of the mid level producers like AJ Fernandez, Dr. Cuenca and many others. As very there are very few outlets for advertising all the "hype" comes from other cigar smokers. As long as they are enjoying what they smoke what's the big deal? :2

JohnRogers 10-14-2012 07:30 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1732971)
10 whole Cubans? Oh, yeah, write them suckers off!

Well I did say "I'm not saying a good Cuban doesn't exist but I'm having doubts".

It is harder to get a Cuban than scoring a dime bag in the USA. So I can only go buy what I've experienced but with the all hype I would have thought I'd have a decent one by now. I'll keep trying to sample when I can.

Zanaspus 10-14-2012 07:35 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
First, there is no overhyped Cuban apart from perhaps Cohibas. Remember, glowing reviews and hype are two different things.

Which leads me to Viajes and Illusiones. Viajes would be great if the blenders would learn that too much ligero is a bad thing. Illusiones just don't do it for me, but they're not as hyped as most.

pektel 10-14-2012 07:53 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack (Post 1732714)
Any Cuban stick, IMHO. Boring.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1732741)
This for me as well. Guess it all goes back to "smoke what you like, like what you smoke".

Awesome. More for me. :)

But please, keep me updated on the latest tat release. I LOVE chasing those pj le's... ;)

Disclaimer: I've been drinking.

maninblack 10-14-2012 07:55 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Hey Peter,
The new Tat Mummy is out. Tom is looking for a single.

pektel 10-14-2012 08:18 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
Shoulda got the saints and sinners VIP membership like I did. I have 6 dress boxes in the humi. They're my yardgars. I've found they light best with a $100 bill.

Suppose I could sell one of em.

gbum 10-14-2012 08:20 PM

Re: Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?
 
guys,
let get back to the real topic here...(sorry for the offtopic before)

Your opinion - Most overhyped cigar line?

the main thing is your opinion..doesn't matter right or wrong...
and we don't need to bombardie or educate other people to follow our perception or opinion...

if a person perception/opinion about cuban cigar is not same as your perception... so be it... everybody is free to express what they feel and think...

the way i saw it.. there is no problem about "Let's all pick a cigar we don't like and trash talk it a little."...because it your own opinion...

the problem is when somebody start to defend their favorite cigar or not following their taste...

this is free country....
free to think the way we want and free to express it the way we like it...
smoke what your like,like what your smoke...

so i suppose there is no problem when somebody expressing their thought... suits you or not... doesn't matter...

because its our own opinion....rite?

xxxxxxx

so back to the topic,
yup i do think that nub cigar is over hyped even i do like nub cameroon... same goes to room 101 regular line... the way they market it its like a superstar cigar... but i think camacho corojo is wayyy better for my palate...


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