No smoking on college campus?- Any place else?
 

I am a alumni of Oregon State University. I was on a sports board today and found out that the ENTIRE Oregon State Campus has outlawed smoking of any kind. There is NO "smoking areas" for employees or staff. They have even outlawed smoking in your own vehicle (windows up and everything).

I had not heard about this being done before. I know there has been limitations on smoking within a certain distance from windows and building entrances, but I never heard of a complete, 100% ban on smoking on the entire campus.

This new rule really bothers me. There is nothing I like to do more when I visit the campus then light up a nice cigar and walk around campus to see the changes and remember my time at OSU.

I will continue to light up a cigar, but now I will always be looking out for "campus security" and I am sure some yuppy student will decide they need to "educate" me on the negative effects of smoking and that it is outlawed on campus.

http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/life...arting-sept-1/

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Don't see how they can stop you from smoking in your vehicle.

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Whats next, this band bullshat is fukcing nuts. Why dosent all these law makers work on "cleaning the air" by really pushing cleaner cars. i mean the US has so many problems like i dont know the FED budget. Last i check that is a really big problem. Can't they just leave us alone. Go chase some hackers or something.

Sorry bad day... and i hate this stuff. CUBA here i come

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I thought that part was really surprising:

Q&A from the website:

Q: Can I smoke in my personal vehicle on campus?
A: No. The policy prohibits smoking within personal vehicles anywhere within the campus boundaries.

Also another interesting answer:

Q: Is a smoke-free policy a violation of civil and Constitutional rights?
A: No, there is no Constitutional "right" to smoke or use tobacco. Tobacco users are not a category protected under the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution, nor is tobacco use a protected liberty right under the Due Process clause of the Constitution.

Basically, it is the University saying: "You are not smart enough to stop smoking, so we need to force you to stop....."

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Tell them you and a bunch of other alums will no longer give any money to them. Would be great if you could get some really big donor to do the same. Money talks, BS walks!

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ask if they can dip :cf1

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Not outlawed here at NC State yet, but they're working on it. I typically have a stick a day on campus nowadays and have never once had a complaint. Just have some common sense with it. I never exhale when walking by people, and never puff when in an enclosed space(we have a number of tunnels on campus).

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I think it is amusing they also "prohibit" those electronic cigarettes. I would LOVE to hear their reason for that.
I would also like to know what the consequences for breaking their silly little rule if you are not a student or faculty.
Double Secret Probation?

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What about tailgating????? That's all that really matters!

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Crazy days indeed! College stressed me to the point of needing to smoke to take a well-deserved break. Smoking the crazy weed wasn't allowed on campus either, but we somehow got our fill of it. I'm sure if push-come-to-shove I could find a way to have a relaxing smoke if I so desired, also. Wait until they outlaw booze.

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Many hotel chains have gone smoke free and even fine $250 if you are caught smoking on the balcony. I know this from first hand experience:td
It was a long time ago I was in college but it was rare that there wasn't something being smoked in the dorms back then

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My son it at the University of Oregon and they have the same rule (it is a rule rather than a law, but then they govern absolutely within the campus).

I used to walk around the campus with a cigar. Now I visit less. It will be interesting to see how this new rule goes at the football games...

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When I was in college in Florida you could smoke right in your dorm room. In fact as an incoming freshman, you had to note your smoking preference so you wouldn't get roomed with a smoker if you didn't smoke (cigarettes that is). Of course, all the kids lied because they didn't want their parents to know they smoked, so basically everyone got stuck with a cigarette smoking roomie. That's when I started smoking cigars and gassed them out by smoking Garcia y Vegas non-stop.

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The entire University of Missouri system went smoke free including in your own personal vehicle unless the windows are up and no smoke is allowed to escape.

Campus police actually sit in the parking lot and look for offenders.

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Most campuses have private roads. As such, they can enforce their policies even on the roadway. Smokers have the ability to drive on other roads, etc. to not violate the policy. It has been upheld in state and federal courts.

I happen not to agree with the policy, since it is extreme and putative. But they never asked my opinion when they did it. One more example of schools being forced to play mommy and daddy instead of focusing on education.

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Yeah security here at the academy is getting a lot stricter. They have limited us to only 4 sporadically placed "smoking sections" (and when you look at the size of the entire base, you really have to do some walking just to get to one). Additionally, all 4/c's (freshmen) are prohibited from ANY and ALL tobacco use, which wasn't a rule up until this year. The Academy says they are doing this because they want cadets to live healthier lives, but when you consider that some of freshmen can be as old as 24 years old with prior enlisted time in the coast guard, you gotta realize that they are old enough and experienced to make their own decisions about what is healthy and what is not. Their intentions are good, but hardly beneficial when you consider we are just going to do it off-base or after graduation.

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hospital campus is the same way
my son was born I had a few friends stop by and we tried to go to one of the sitting areas outside where no one was around and were informed by a nurse walking by and then soon after by security that smoking was banned on all the property owned by the hospital

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The only way I can see them getting away with the personal vehicles and such is because you are on private property.

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Glad we can smoke on the rec fields at work still. But because many officers can't get away all the time to get their fix there are MANY CO's that have taken to dip.

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The two community colleges I went to have a no-smoking policy. You have to go out to the parking lot, where ashtrays are provided, to smoke. The problem is that at least one of them students smoke in certain areas anyway, but they toss butts everywhere. When I was a student there I spoke to staff at the health office and suggested they place receptacles there. Also, since there is no law prohibiting smoking in the city, the campus police cannot issue citations.

At my current school, San Jose State University, there are no specific rules about smoking, except for the standard 20 feet from any door or window. I sometimes smoke on campus and have even had a discussion with a professor while he puffed away on his briar.

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Article [IX]

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

This^

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They can issue a trespass warning, escort you off campus and arrest you if you ever return.
We have the same rule at the hospital where I work.

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They tried that; all we got was a bunch of classic gangster movies. :gn

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Hey, I'm at Missouri S&T, (formerly UM-Rolla), we've got a smoking ban, as well as a city wide no smoking in bars, etc.. I can say the ban on campus seems to be universally ignored. The campus pd and security are far too busy writing parking tickets.

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lol... I'm at UMSL now for my second degree and they spend alot of time on parking and smoking infractions... murder and robbery require FAR too much paperwork!

Good luck at S&T, we hire quite a few people from there. Check out Hunter Engineering during career days! Great school!

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Marriott and Ritz-Carlton in the US are all smoke free and do assign $250 dollar fees if caught. Was just in Zion, Utah and due to their extreme dry weather conditions banned camp fires and smoking while in the park and when I went to light up in my car to enjoy a smoke was advised that I could not smoke even in my car with the windows up. Funny thing was every day I was there we had thunderstorms dropping crap loads of rain!!

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Any time you receive a fund solicitation from any of these "no smoking" institutions just let them know you have insitituted a "no contribution" policy as a result--when they reverse themselves so will you.

If you are ambitious send a copy to each member of the Board of Trustees.

If you have contributed in the past make sure to let them know that as well.

What was that Jefferson quote--"Liberty, yours if you can keep it".

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Smokers are an easy target for those who really have deep seated hate, but want to come off as compassionate and caring. This is a common theme in Liberal America.

Just like welfare is meant to help people in their eyes, but it is really to subjugate and promote class difference by making one dependent on subsidy.

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You are so full of baloney Moses, its staggering. Lay off the politics please, folks.

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I don’t think this is full of baloney. Collegiate education is certainly left leaning and most initiatives like this are not for true public health or safety. If that was the case, I can think many things that would promote a healthier campus than banning smoking. Those making these decisions on what is allowed in one’s car is because they know what is better for you than you. Goes back to my classism and subjugation comment posted earlier.

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That's incredible that they do that and I know when I went to school in NC (small college called Elon) there were no such rules to my knowledge.

Outside of the new rules your describing, the one rule that has driven me nuts is when certain places have told me to put out my cigar and offered me a cigarette as some sort of equal value. I never understood places not allowing cigars but allowing cigarettes.

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Never heard of that. How cavalier they are to just think they are both similar and you should be fine with that. :sl

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Actually happened in a few different hotels, casinos and once on a cruise. Very frustrating!

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One of the many reasons I won't travel anymore.

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Ohio State plans to go 100% non-smoking campus within a year. The medical center campus (attached to the main campus) has been non-smoking for a few years now.

Dan