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DaBear 07-26-2012 10:23 AM

LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
New LP being released at the show.

http://www.halfwheel.com/news-liga-p...ng-ipcpr-2012/

Quote:

Our latest addition to the Liga Privada Único Serie, the “Papas Fritas” are handcrafted entirely from only the chaveta cuts of our dark Broadleaf capa and the rare Grade 1 filler tobacco trimmings created by the production of all our other famed Liga Privada blends, these coronas are arguably the finest “tripa corta” cigars ever made. What they may lack in beauty they more than make up for in satisfying flavor. Spicy, rich and delicious, they are named in honor of one of El Jefe’s favorite foods: French Fries!

Although “tripa corta” means “short filler”, these coronas are unlike any “sandwich” cigar ever created. All of the tobacco trimmings are individually hand sorted back into their original leaf variety and thickness, hand cut to be uniform in size and then are hand blended cigar by cigar to ensure consistency in flavor and aroma
I'm normally all for LPs, but really now? I know I'll try some, but I'm extremely doubtful they'll be any good at all, tbh. I know they use great tobacco, but I have a hard time believing and shortfiller stick is worth the $6 price tag.

:2

Subvet642 07-26-2012 10:38 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I'll roll the dice for $6.

Brooks W 07-26-2012 10:40 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBear (Post 1688106)
New LP being released at the show.

http://www.halfwheel.com/news-liga-p...ng-ipcpr-2012/



I'm normally all for LPs, but really now? I know I'll try some, but I'm extremely doubtful they'll be any good at all, tbh. I know they use great tobacco, but I have a hard time believing and shortfiller stick is worth the $6 price tag.

:2

I understand your hesitation, but these are really quite good...Great size, great flavor, and great construction on the ones I have smoked so far...

Give it a shot :)

Taki 07-26-2012 10:45 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I will try one for the price...:tu

JenksAnejo 07-26-2012 10:47 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I'd love to try them (I love all the LP Series), but I'm sure you will have to go on a wild goose chase to find them. Not worth the hassle. :2

DaBear 07-26-2012 10:49 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooks W (Post 1688126)
I understand your hesitation, but these are really quite good...Great size, great flavor, and great construction on the ones I have smoked so far...

Give it a shot :)

I will be trying a couple, and if they do actually turn out to be good it'll be interesting to see whether they go the way of the Undercrown after the initial run. Aside from the Corona Vivas, I haven't liked a single Undercrown from the later shipments, they've been noticeably different(went from extremely oily wrappers with great flavor to rough, almost sickly looking comparatively, wrappers with little to no flavor).

Blak Smyth 07-26-2012 10:53 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I love the size of this stick, much better than the dumb fat pigs IMO.
The price is good for an LP but not for a standard short filler, Brooks says it tastes good though. Sounds like a better option than paying twice the amount for one of their long fillers.
I think it is a good concept, might draw a few people into the LP stuff that have been hesitant due to prices being soo high.

I don't think I will try them but I hope they are good, I have always thought highly of the LP stuff.

equetefue 07-26-2012 10:58 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I will be buying these for sure..

Blak Smyth 07-26-2012 11:02 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
One of the comments left on Halfwheel made me laugh!

lenguamor 07-26-2012 12:22 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I'll certainly try them.

Reminds me of much the same conversation about the LGC Perritos, which is a nice little cheroot.

neoflex 07-26-2012 12:59 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Nothing wrong with a short filler stick. I personally find the Benchmades to be a very good stick although they only tend to top at at the $4 mark.
I love what Drew Estate has been doing with their non flavored tobaccos but $6 for a mixed filler Corona-ish sized cigar is a little steep on paper but if it smokes really good than the price point will probably become moot. Hell the Dirty Rat is just about the same size but retails for $12 and I never wince about paying that for them as the stick is just that good. I guess time will tell if a short filler Corona can sustain a $6 price point. My guess is that it will do just fine and will sell out with the quickness.

Subvet642 07-26-2012 01:06 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
How short does the filler have to be on a 4 1/2" stick to be called a short filler stick. I mean are they using pieces shorter than 4 1/2 inches long? :sh

OLS 07-26-2012 01:14 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Haha, I thought it meant Daddy's Cold.....figured it meant a spicy cigar to make you sweat in the winter or something.

T.G 07-26-2012 03:43 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1688243)
How short does the filler have to be on a 4 1/2" stick to be called a short filler stick. I mean are they using pieces shorter than 4 1/2 inches long? :sh


To make a long filler cigar 4-1/2" in length you need filler tobacco that is about 6"-1/2" in length because part of it gets trimmed off in process.

Additionally, you can only get so many cuts out of a leaf, so you can get some odd sized leftovers. Sometimes wide shapes that aren't long, other times very long, but very narrow, or just weird shaped that would be hard to work with. There's not much you can do with them other than to chop them up for short filler.

lilninjabuddy 07-26-2012 04:06 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642 (Post 1688124)
I'll roll the dice for $6.

$6 for a Liga Privada blend? Yeah, I'll play at least once!

whodeeni 07-26-2012 04:21 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1688157)
One of the comments left on Halfwheel made me laugh!

IKR Shane! *lol* Guy sounds like he just fell off a meat truck! Maybe its just
me, but this is worse than the 'Baitfish ordeal'. I bought and quickly sold my
bundle once i got to thinking about it. I really didn't think they were going to
be that good, but they just needed some rest. I still wasn't overly happy
about the 6.00 price for those and that was long filler.

Pepin's Tabacos Baez SF sells for 2-3 bucks for the robusto and toro's.
He also does Benchmade for Ashton, and they're probably 1-1.50 to $2.00
higher depending on the vitola.

I know for a fact that you can smoke a SF stick and enjoy it, but Geez
Louise DE! $6.00 for a petit corona? I'm an LP Fan too btw... Certain sticks
i'll gladly pay the money for, this is not one of them.

TJtorpedo 07-26-2012 06:50 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lilninjabuddy (Post 1688486)
$6 for a Liga Privada blend? Yeah, I'll play at least once!

Same here, I'll plunk down $6 to try one!

JenksAnejo 07-26-2012 08:52 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Excel, totally agree about the Baez SF! Great cigars for the price!

Not sure if the Papas will be 2x better than those.. We will see.

Boz 07-26-2012 08:56 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I'll certainly try one......if I can find one.

neoflex 07-27-2012 08:03 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whodeeni (Post 1688501)
IKR Shane! *lol* Guy sounds like he just fell off a meat truck! Maybe its just
me, but this is worse than the 'Baitfish ordeal'. I bought and quickly sold my
bundle once i got to thinking about it. I really didn't think they were going to
be that good, but they just needed some rest. I still wasn't overly happy
about the 6.00 price for those and that was long filler.

Pepin's Tabacos Baez SF sells for 2-3 bucks for the robusto and toro's.
He also does Benchmade for Ashton, and they're probably 1-1.50 to $2.00
higher depending on the vitola.

I know for a fact that you can smoke a SF stick and enjoy it, but Geez
Louise DE! $6.00 for a petit corona? I'm an LP Fan too btw... Certain sticks
i'll gladly pay the money for, this is not one of them.

I forgot all about the Beaz SF. Like you said a very good stick at a minimal cost. Should be interesting to see how well the Papas does at the $6 price point but as mentioned earlier, it's a DE stick so my guess is sales will be strong and it will be a tough find like a lot of the Liga/Unico line.

JenksAnejo 07-27-2012 08:12 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

it's a DE stick so my guess is sales will be strong and it will be a tough find like a lot of the Liga/Unico line.
No question, JD knows what he's doing! :)

Dunkel 07-27-2012 08:39 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I'm glad DE sticks don't appeal to me. I'd feel like a fool paying that much money for a small short filler cigar.

lilninjabuddy 07-27-2012 05:06 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
See, there's the rub. They're not for everyone. But for guys like me, I have yet to try a stick that I like as much as the LP9 or the Rat, in any price range.

If you take two sticks of the same quality, but slightly different blends, and one is priced a few dollars more, and you prefer the one priced a few dollars more, there are two ways to look at it. One is to say "both should be priced the same, and no matter what, I'll take the less expensive one because it's a better deal." The other is to say, "I like the way the more expensive one tastes, I'll take that one, even though it's a bit more."

Alternatively, perhaps you actually enjoy the cheaper ones every bit as much, in which case, cool. Smoke those!

Personally, I feel that LPs are good quality sticks, and perhaps are priced a couple bucks more per stick than other sticks of the same pedigree, but since no one else has a stick I like more, at either less or more cost I'll pay the going rate for the Ligas, and just smoke fewer cigars.

Jonathan Drew 08-11-2012 03:06 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Hello guys.

Reading the posts I have to say that there are good points being made all around. The sticks are expensive for w 70/30 Long/Med Filler. At the same time, they carry the classic LP taste and effort, which has a value as well.

BUT HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING : In all of the discussions on Asylum about the PF, everyone behaved and acted like True Gentleman. Nobody put anyone down or acted with anger. I am so appreciative for this because - thats what premium cigars are all about - Smoking and sharing and camaraderie. Great to hear different views. I think you'll are going to be impressed with these bad boys. And forget the traditional mixed filler crap on your tongue, the guys at the factory found a solution to that.

In any case, so many great new products from the IPCPR, from many countries and many factories. Its going to be another "Sampling Year".

ENJOY and smoke in moderation.
Very best,
JD

guado 08-14-2012 06:25 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I really enjoyed the Papas Fritas I had at the show. While I think it's a tad overpriced I enjoyed it and it smoked like a 100% long filler. Packaging is very nice on it also.

This is coming from a guy that isn't goo goo ga ga over the traditional #9 line...

Mikepd 08-14-2012 06:32 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Drew (Post 1698205)
... And forget the traditional mixed filler crap on your tongue, the guys at the factory found a solution to that.

JD care to explain this a little more?

Jonathan Drew 08-14-2012 03:57 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
MikePD.

I would love to explain the solution to the system that they created to reduce the short filler escape. But to be 100% honest, it was not my work product. Saka and Nicholas Melillo figured it out and I have not been brought into the loop just yet.

They are going to teach me on the next trip in, God willing. I would hate to lie and try to take credit for this system or act like I understand it fully at this point.

I will look into it and report back as much info as allowed.

Best,
JD

Jonathan Drew 08-14-2012 03:58 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Guado.

Glad that you enjoyed the Papas Fritas, Amigo.

Best,
JD

guado 08-16-2012 07:46 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Drew (Post 1699990)
Guado.

Glad that you enjoyed the Papas Fritas, Amigo.

Best,
JD

I always try to catch you at IPCPR but your such a celebrity there that you have a never ending MOB around you. So I just let you deal with them and if we ever meet up and chill whether it be Miami or Nicaragra that's be sweet.

neoflex 08-16-2012 12:25 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Initial reviews of this stick are very positive. Now the wait/hunt begins. :D
Dizzle, when should we start seeing these hit retailers?

lilninjabuddy 08-16-2012 03:17 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
^this!

Jonathan Drew 08-17-2012 10:20 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Guado ... Looking forward to it as well.

NEOFLEX ... Looks like November will be the drop date. How have you been my friend???

Best,
JD

poriggity 08-18-2012 06:06 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Solid JD. Sounds like it'll be a good smoke, just like the others in the LP line....

Jonathan Drew 08-19-2012 04:34 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Hope you guys enjoy it.

Best,
JD

neoflex 08-19-2012 08:27 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Drew (Post 1701673)
Guado ... Looking forward to it as well.

NEOFLEX ... Looks like November will be the drop date. How have you been my friend???

Best,
JD

All good in the hood over here. Just busy as sh*t which is a good problem.
So any hints of what's in store for this years Pig? Figured I would ask since November is about the time those hit shelves too.

whodeeni 08-19-2012 08:36 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex (Post 1702240)
All good in the hood over here. Just busy as sh*t which is a good problem.
So any hints of what's in store for this years Pig? Figured I would ask since November is about the time those hit shelves too.

John you sound like you're the Moderator of the DE Forum! You have so
much 'insider knowledge'! :D But you're right... They have released
a pig every year so far. Hopefully its the 'Undercrown Pig'! :tu

neoflex 08-20-2012 11:04 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whodeeni (Post 1702245)
John you sound like you're the Moderator of the DE Forum! You have so
much 'insider knowledge'! :D But you're right... They have released
a pig every year so far. Hopefully its the 'Undercrown Pig'! :tu

Nah just a self admitted Liga/Tat Ho! :D:r Plus since there may be two new releases from DE in November I have to start figuring out who is getting shafted at Christmas so I have proper funds to stock up.:r

Ranger_B 08-20-2012 08:52 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Im stoked to finally find a DE smoke in this size. Hope I can find a couple to try. Short fill long fill who cares if its good tobacco and smokes well. I am assuming this is not little pieces of chop being put in a sandwich as other makers have done.

Jonathan Drew 08-20-2012 09:37 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Ranger ... there has been a lot written about the 70/30 Long filler-Mixed Filler blend and how to keep the tobacco from releasing out of the cap.

Best,
JD

cobra03 08-20-2012 11:34 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Im a big fan of Illusiones Cuchillos Cubanos and i believe those use a 60/40 mix. I use a punch on them just to be on the safe side and you would never think twice about them being a mixed filler smoke. Looking forward to giving the PF a try if i can find some. Those would make some great winter time smokes up here in B-lo.

equetefue 11-27-2012 12:16 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
A website mentioned that they have received word that they wont e available until the beginning of the year. Bummer

DaBear 11-27-2012 12:27 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I'm not surprised. They have to wait for more No. 9s to be made to get the wrapper leaf for these.

neoflex 11-29-2012 09:10 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Yeah, do not get me wrong, I love Liga Privada but they definitely seem to be having issues and have been for some time with production of most of their lines in the Liga lineup.I really wish I didn't have to ration out my T-52s but it is what it is and at least they're not just pumping out sh*t to keep up with demand. I am guessing the Paps Fritas aren't ready yet so they are holding them back which I can respect. Many others have shot themselves in the foot with a new stick by releasing it when it was still green turning people off of the stick forever. I just wish they (the industry as a whole) would be more realistic with their release dates even if it meant pushing it way out and than releasing it early if need be.

milhouse 11-29-2012 09:19 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Steve Saka posted over at puff.com, and he says these will be out mid December, the wait is due to delays in the packaging, the tins and the boxes.

He did mention authorizing the extra cost to get these to us mid December. He said the good news was that this delay caused an extra supply of these sticks, so they should be easier to get.

T.G 11-29-2012 09:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by milhouse (Post 1756720)
Steve Saka posted over at p**f.com...

Just FYI, that word, we don't use it here in that context.

If you look into the reasons why this site was founded and what Craputo did, you'll understand.

never_enough 11-29-2012 09:49 AM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
I will try a couple of these if I can get my hands on them. My Christmas cigar list is getting long:r

Cville Cigar 11-30-2012 07:47 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Bought a 4 pack yesterday, will be here soon.:D:D

Rhino 12-02-2012 08:13 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
For me it's not so much about the price but about the time. Most LP's take 1.5 to 2 hours to smoke. I love LP's but I need something faster to smoke.

Pilon 12-02-2012 08:23 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
Got a B&M to hold two tins for me when they come in. Looking forward to it.

cmitch 12-02-2012 08:36 PM

Re: LP Unico Serie "Papas Fritas"
 
As always, Liga Privadas of no kind can be found around here so I have to snag what I can online which can be a challenge. Maybe Jonathan Drew can open the Cigar Room in Madison, AL to be a dealer soon, to fill this hole.


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