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red123 06-20-2012 12:50 PM

dutch master
 
has any one smoked a dutch master? would you reconmind it to a new cigar smoker.

Jasonw560 06-20-2012 12:59 PM

Re: dutch master
 
Those, King Edward, and Swisher sweets are what I and a few others started on. Keep in mind, they're machine made and not hand rolled. Big difference. They'll either turn you off to cigars completely, or make you want to try better hand rolled ones.

IMO, start off with some good, cheap, mild smokes like Casa De Garcia cigars and start off right.

Digs 06-20-2012 01:10 PM

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Heck NO! In my opinion these are for cigarette smokers I wouldn’t recommend these to anyone I was trying to get interested unless you want to turn them off completely and make them an anti. LOL

I also wouldn’t start them off with a good cheap cigar because that’s an Oxy-moron I would try and offer them an Acid and go from there. :2

maninblack 06-20-2012 01:18 PM

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Excellent first post! Welcome to the nuthouse. Go introduce yourself and stick around. Lots of good info here.

icehog3 06-20-2012 01:19 PM

Re: dutch master
 
I would get the Black & Milds.

emopunker2004 06-20-2012 01:20 PM

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I'd start on ACID and the other DE infused smokes before a DM

czerbe 06-20-2012 01:22 PM

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Have them try something Mild a Cain F maybe...:r:r:r:r

the nub 06-20-2012 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digs (Post 1662049)

I also wouldn’t start them off with a good cheap cigar because that’s an Oxy-moron I would try and offer them an Acid and go from there. :2

you would offer them a bad cheap cigar? :emo2004

363 06-20-2012 01:28 PM

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I've always grown thinking that DM and Philies were just there to be broken open and stuffed with other materials. I've never looked at them as 'real' cigars

Subvet642 06-20-2012 01:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digs (Post 1662049)
Heck NO! In my opinion these are for cigarette smokers I wouldn’t recommend these to anyone I was trying to get interested unless you want to turn them off completely and make them an anti. LOL

I also wouldn’t start them off with a good cheap cigar because that’s an Oxy-moron I would try and offer them an Acid and go from there. :2

I smoke cigarettes and I won't touch them, but I won't touch an Acid, either.

pektel 06-20-2012 01:36 PM

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I'd start with a milder, hand rolled smoke. If you are not sure about getting into the hobby, then maybe just a cheap sampler from www.cigarsinternational.com would do the trick. Store the sticks in a tupperware container with a Boveda packet to cut costs on storage, until you are sure you want to buy a humidor.

Blak Smyth 06-20-2012 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1662074)
I'd start with a milder, hand rolled smoke. If you are not sure about getting into the hobby, then maybe just a cheap sampler from www.cigarsinternational.com would do the trick. Store the sticks in a tupperware container with a Boveda packet to cut costs on storage, until you are sure you want to buy a humidor.

Good post here! :tu




We all start somewhere when it comes to cigars, buy asking here you are one step further than I was a long time ago.
I wouldn't smoke any of the cheap gas station style cigars myself.
The quality of tobacco used is garbage. I started smoking BackWoods when I was young but would never go back to one.
Try a sampler from an online store, CI has some great deals for starters.

The best thing to do may be to go to a reputable cigar shop locally and ask what would be a good starter cigar.

Good luck with exploring the hobby, in time it may become a lifestyle.

poker 06-20-2012 01:58 PM

Re: dutch master
 
I say just give em a Partagas Short and send em down the slope with no safety belt. :D

Bill86 06-20-2012 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poker (Post 1662093)
I say just give em a Partagas Short and send em down the slope with no safety belt. :D

:tu :tu

IBQTEE1 06-20-2012 02:45 PM

Re: dutch master
 
This just brought a tear to my eye. My grandpa smoked these all the time. This is why I smoke cigars now. (much better ones though) Miss you Papa!!

CRIMPS 06-20-2012 04:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poker (Post 1662093)
I say just give em a Partagas Short and send em down the slope with no safety belt. :D

ha! yeah, that would probably do the trick.

DaBear 06-20-2012 05:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 363 (Post 1662062)
I've always grown thinking that DM and Philies were just there to be broken open and stuffed with other materials. I've never looked at them as 'real' cigars

I've never looked at them as cigars period. They're just oversized flavored cigarettes.

CasaDooley 06-20-2012 06:37 PM

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I'm probably gonna get burned at the stake for this, but why not try a Macanudo Cigar. They are hand made, well constructed and very mild. Theres gotta be a reason they're the number 1 selling cigar in the USA, and I'm thinkin newbies love em (I guess).

Bleez 06-20-2012 07:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IBQTEE1 (Post 1662134)
This just brought a tear to my eye. My grandpa smoked these all the time. This is why I smoke cigars now. (much better ones though) Miss you Papa!!

I actually bought a 5 pack of Dutch Master Presidents yesterday. Not to smoke, but to hold on to and remind me of my passed Grandfather. I don't remember much about him but I do know that he smoked DM Presidents and drank scotch. $5 for a 5er of memories...haha, corny but whatever...

kelmac07 06-20-2012 07:16 PM

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If it brings them into our great hobby...go for it. :D

FriendlyMan 06-20-2012 08:20 PM

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It just my opinion, I think you should go in to a cigar shop explain your situation and and ask for a good recommendation for a starter. Acctually It dosnt have to be very cheap. But rather mildish and short. I think you'll rather have a better experience with a better cigar. Make sure you had something to eat before and have your favored beverage with you.

Then, after you enjoy a cigar or two, if you ever want to reconsider asking yourself this question again. It's worth the two dollars just to know what paper tastes like. It happend to me when I started . I smoked some good cigars, but then one day after work I was tempted to try one from the candy store. Sat in to my car lit it up gave a few pufffs and didn't even regret throwing the two dollars out the window as far as I could. And never looked back.

Malazan 06-20-2012 10:00 PM

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I think a DM was my first cigar at 18


Drinking Jack Daniels chased with Budweiser smoking a DM:pu

Ismith75 06-20-2012 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Malazan (Post 1662567)
Drinking Jack Daniels chased with Budweiser smoking a DM:pu

I see no problem with this :tu Why not smoke a DM head to head with a quality mild smoke (Macanudo, Avo, RyJ) and see if you can tell what you're missing?

hammondc 06-21-2012 07:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CasaDooley (Post 1662360)
I'm probably gonna get burned at the stake for this, but why not try a Macanudo Cigar. They are hand made, well constructed and very mild. Theres gotta be a reason they're the number 1 selling cigar in the USA, and I'm thinkin newbies love em (I guess).

+1. This is usually the direction I send folks that are trying to get into it. They are decent(ish), mild and can be found everywhere. Hell, my grocery store sells em. Macanudo Hyde Park.

IBQTEE1 06-21-2012 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleez (Post 1662390)
I actually bought a 5 pack of Dutch Master Presidents yesterday. Not to smoke, but to hold on to and remind me of my passed Grandfather. I don't remember much about him but I do know that he smoked DM Presidents and drank scotch. $5 for a 5er of memories...haha, corny but whatever...

I don't think that at all. I am glad my grandpa was in my life even though have the time we were in the car I was being smoked out by a DM!! :tu Here's to our grandpas!!

shopkins82 06-21-2012 08:50 AM

Re: dutch master
 
The biggest downfall of most machine made gas-station cigars, other than the overall quality of the tobacco, is that the wrapper is made of a tobacco-derived paper product consisting of (usually) tobacco pulp, molasses, and some other binding products.

That said, I still grab a pack of Swisher Blunts when I'm on the road by myself and don't have anything better with me. But then again, I do like sweetened caps and even some infusions (mainly the ones that don't smell like perfume or liquor, like coffee/hazelnut/amaretto/etc).

Still, take the above advice and get some advice from a local cigar shop. I think Baccarat is a great place to start... mild and sweet without being flavored/infused. If you like that, your pallet will probably eventually like traditional cigars without the sweetened cap. Baccarat and similar are what I always hand out to guys who want to smoke with me but don't frequently and they almost always enjoy them.

MajorCaptSilly 06-21-2012 09:02 AM

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I buy a pack of Parodi or Hava Tampas about once a year to pretend I'm 18 again. I don't think I've ever had a Dutch Master. I smoked a few Swishers in my day.


MCS

OLS 06-21-2012 09:08 AM

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OR...OR...you could come in, throw a post like this into the hopper and see how many people say how many
things before they realize it is likely someone having fun with them.

Crownedone 06-21-2012 09:08 AM

Re: dutch master
 
Ive tried the Dutch Masters before and felt that There are plenty of bundles on line that are cheaper and better. Ive had online bundles as cheap as .65 a stick be desent yard smokes.

kingcobradude 06-21-2012 01:51 PM

Re: dutch master
 
I have smoked them dutch masters and Im not a fan. try to find something on the milder side that isnt too high dollar. i would go to a b&m and buy some factory overruns, rejects, or a bundle smoke such as quorum or kinky friedman kinksters


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