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Drkns 04-06-2012 08:54 AM

Are these fake??
 
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I bought some cigars today but I am fairly sure they might be fakes. The experts Please stand up :)
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0729.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0728.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0727.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0726.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0725.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0724.jpg

Thanks for your replies.

icehog3 04-06-2012 08:55 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
How much did you pay for them?

shilala 04-06-2012 08:57 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
I honestly expected boobs.

kaisersozei 04-06-2012 08:58 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1609548)
I honestly expected boobs.

I honestly was hoping for boobs.

icehog3 04-06-2012 08:58 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Wait, it might turn out that way. ;)

kickerb 04-06-2012 08:58 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1609548)
I honestly expected boobs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 1609550)
I honestly was hoping for boobs.

:tpd:

forgop 04-06-2012 09:05 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
They're legit. They weren't spelled Cohibo, so you're good to go. :D

big pete 04-06-2012 09:10 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 1609550)
I honestly was hoping for boobs.

:tu

Drkns 04-06-2012 09:35 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
I paid $20 per stick. Do habanos still produce DC 2003 limited edition? I didn't know posting boobs allowed otherwise I wouldn't let you down :)

forgop 04-06-2012 09:52 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drkns (Post 1609586)
I paid $20 per stick. Do habanos still produce DC 2003 limited edition? I didn't know posting boobs allowed otherwise I wouldn't let you down :)

I definitely would t worry since the market rate on the 2003 DC is much closer to $60/stick. You got them at a great price.

awsmith4 04-06-2012 10:05 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drkns (Post 1609586)
I paid $20 per stick. Do habanos still produce DC 2003 limited edition? I didn't know posting boobs allowed otherwise I wouldn't let you down :)

They were produced in 02/03 but they can still be found.

Go to www.cubancigarwebsite.com and look at the Cohiba page and see if the measurements match. Secondly, are these from a trusted source?

Oh, nudity may be allowed, but boobs are always appreciated

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w..._0n3/Boobs.png

forgop 04-06-2012 10:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by awsmith4 (Post 1609604)

These aren't the only fakes in this thread. :D

pektel 04-06-2012 10:13 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Must. not. make. motorboat. sounds.

BigAsh 04-06-2012 10:15 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
thank you Albert! :tu

Subvet642 04-06-2012 10:19 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
A little warning for those viewing from work would have been useful. :o

neoflex 04-06-2012 10:31 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1609612)
Must. not. make. motorboat. sounds.

:r

Dave128 04-06-2012 10:32 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Boobies!!

Powers 04-06-2012 10:35 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1609612)
Must. not. make. motorboat. sounds.

:banger :noon

Drkns 04-06-2012 11:03 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
OK they cigars are fake but how about these??????
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...s_Tr/under.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...6331d7f6bf.jpg

bobarian 04-06-2012 11:03 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drkns (Post 1609586)
I paid $20 per stick. Do habanos still produce DC 2003 limited edition? I didn't know posting boobs allowed otherwise I wouldn't let you down :)

It is extremely difficult to determine authenticity from pictures or by price. As Albert said, check the exact measurements on the site referenced.

From the pictures there is nothing that screams "fake" :2

Drkns 04-06-2012 11:11 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Measurements are alright that's why I was confused. I started smoking cigars with cohiba Double corona LE 2003 and they were awesome at the time. I am just surprised seeing it today. Cigars are hard to come by in my country and as usual there are fakes and real ones as well.

RichieBklyn 04-06-2012 11:22 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drkns (Post 1609646)

Does it really mattter.....

Islayphile 04-06-2012 11:23 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieBklyn (Post 1609655)
Does it really mattter.....

If you can touch them they are real

the jiggler 04-06-2012 11:26 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...gler/33279.jpg

Pretty sure these are real.

357 04-06-2012 11:52 AM

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:pu

bobarian 04-06-2012 12:13 PM

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Apparently, now the mod's need to ban banter from discussion threads. :sh

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awsmith4 04-06-2012 12:21 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1609647)
It is extremely difficult to determine authenticity from pictures or by price. As Albert said, check the exact measurements on the site referenced.

From the pictures there is nothing that screams "fake" :2

I agree Bob, nothing in the OP's pictures look fake. I thought maybe the wrapper seemed too dark but not compared to the picture at CCW

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/ima...cigar_orig.jpg

The price would make me think twice but I guess you just need to smoke them and find out

Adriftpanda 04-06-2012 12:29 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
I think I payed close to $50 a piece for mine, like Bob mention, nothing screams out fake to me. It could be the lighting but at first glance, I thought the cigar was way too dark.

Drkns 04-06-2012 01:32 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
I bought one 2003 DC limited edition, 2004 limited edition, maduro 5 and partagas limited edition 2008. The place I bought is not habanos but then habanos does not exist in Turkey.

The sizes are exact match, the bands are all look and feel true. I am either extremely lucky or fakes gotten a long way and become indistinguishable, in this latter case, I am worried. The darker color is due to my hands shadow. The original DC limiteds that I smoked back in 2003 were rather greenish brown in color as far as I remember but they were not aged and rather dry. Oh well I will know when I smoke em.

Thanks all.

bobarian 04-06-2012 01:34 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
When you are done smoking, cut open what's left. It is very easy to tell short from long filler. :2

Drkns 04-06-2012 01:48 PM

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Bobarian can you give an example?

bobarian 04-06-2012 02:03 PM

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Here is a decent video showing short filler. Basically, short filler is a bunch of bits and long filler are whole leaves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj83W...eature=related

Poronico 04-06-2012 02:29 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
EAT IT SUCKERS!
http://floppingout.com/wp-content/up.../man-boobs.jpg

AlohaStyle 04-06-2012 02:33 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Just comparing the Edicion Limitada band on the 03, the top row of gold dots are definitely different than the band on CubanCigarWebsite. The correct band on Trevor's site has an even amount of black space above and below the gold dots. Your band is much different. Your band's gold dots also look pretty blurred together and not as detailed as the correct band.

Judging by price, where you bought it and that band, I say fake. But as we've seen before, you can always find bad bands on legit cigars. But not as much on EL's.

Drkns 04-06-2012 02:45 PM

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Bobarian, interesting info much appreciated.

Drkns 04-06-2012 02:59 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Ryan, you are right about thinner black line on top of gold dots but gold dots are rather sharp on actual cigar. Blur is due to iphone shake. If that makes this cigar fake and I also think this is fake makes me very sad since this means fake is as good as the real one on appearance. Thank you.

BMack 04-06-2012 03:57 PM

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Keep in mind the bands could be real and the cigar could be fake. The best way to know is to smoke it.

Drkns 04-06-2012 04:11 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Your absolutely right BMack. Thanks.

STEVE S 04-06-2012 04:29 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
They all look Real to me!!!

Drkns 04-07-2012 01:52 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
I know this thread is getting longer than it should be but I am thinking of asking the shop to show me boxes. What do you think I should look or note or does it make any difference?

Volusianator 04-07-2012 03:03 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drkns (Post 1609545)
I bought some cigars today but I am fairly sure they might be fakes.

Thanks for your replies.

Nope, they are real cigars.

BMack 04-07-2012 03:20 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drkns (Post 1610171)
I know this thread is getting longer than it should be but I am thinking of asking the shop to show me boxes. What do you think I should look or note or does it make any difference?

Use cubancigarwebsite for your reference and check to see if the right seals(sizes as well as makings are correct). You could also check with habanos.com to verify the serial number(if applicable). There will be an "authenticity check" button on the top of the site.

Generally though, if you don't have absolute trust in your sources I would generally consider them to be fakes...there are just soo many fakes out there and soo many ways to fake them. Some weasel can easily buy a box of real cigars, switch the bands and put them back in the box...now he has the real cigars and some trusting BOTL has an expensive box of dog rockets.

Drkns 04-07-2012 10:05 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Today I smoked maduro 5 and it was genuine alright. After 4 hrs I still has the taste and it was long filler definitely. I am going to ask the seller if they can get a box of double corona 2003 and will have the box code etc. to share with you all. Thanks. As I mentioned earlier habanos does not exist in Turkey but the place I am buying is in an upscale mall with lots of real liquor etc.

Sonic04GT 04-07-2012 10:35 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
Don't mind me, I'm just here to contribute boobs.

http://www.lolzilla.net/images/54706872158095166958.gif

pnoon 04-07-2012 10:37 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
There are plenty of banter threads to threadjack on.
Let's try and keep a cigar thread on topic.

Reaver2145 04-07-2012 11:19 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
But cigars and boobs go soo well together.

And on topic is it just me or dose the band on the LE03 look a little washed out compared to the maduro5 to me the yellow looks a shade or two lighter and the gold duller.

But that might just be the iphone.

CigarGuy88 04-07-2012 11:30 AM

Re: Are these fake??
 
I'm saying fake on both of them based on the loops in the "C" in cuba touching (usually a dead giveaway. Also the wrappers look insanely dark on and a bit too even for me. When somethin don't smell right it usually isnt.

akumushi 04-07-2012 01:14 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
I personally wouldn't buy a Cohiba EL 2003 DC anywhere but a reputable, licensed habanos dealer like an LCDH. It is quite possibly the most frequently faked cuban cigar, and the likelihood that you found a great deal on them is nill. If someone has the legitimate thing, why would they sell it for 50-70% below market value? :2
If the price was right and you enjoyed the cigar, well I guess that's all that matters.

Drkns 04-07-2012 01:33 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
I didn't smoke DC 2003 Limited edition yet and I think it is fake since I smoked two boxes in 2003 when my father brought 4 boxes of it from Cuba as a Turkish Tobacco monopoly board member back then. They were awesome. These are fake but darn good ones that surprises me that's all. Pictures are lousy at best, wrapper colors and band colors are bang on so is size measures. I am also suspicious about the thickness of black line above and the emboss of the word cohiba is irregular on the band. I was not after a deal but saw them in bunch of other Cuban cigars at the tobacco shop. As I mentioned earlier Maduro 5 was genuine and I think they are mixing fakes with real ones.

BMack 04-07-2012 05:38 PM

Re: Are these fake??
 
I might be stepping out of my place here but I personally wouldn't be willing to support any shop selling cigars they know are fakes.


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