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smitty81 02-02-2012 03:17 PM

USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Cany anyone tell me if there are any Cohibas available to the US that are comparable to the cubans?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...iba_cigars.jpg

Man, I really enjoyed this one!

The Poet 02-02-2012 03:19 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
In price? Yes. In taste? No. :D


;s

Prefy 02-02-2012 03:23 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Are we talking legal availability?

If we are, I imagine one would have to look for a long time to find a Cohibia that is available legally to the US that tastes like a one produced in Cuba. ;)

VirtualSmitty 02-02-2012 03:23 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
There is nothing.

MurphysLaw 02-02-2012 03:24 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
No.

smitty81 02-02-2012 03:24 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
damn.......Next time I go to Jamaica, I'm gonna bring a bunch back not that i have a humidor!

mosesbotbol 02-02-2012 03:26 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Just get the Cuban ones and be done with it. Nice picture.

icehog3 02-02-2012 03:29 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547573)
damn.......Next time I go to Jamaica, I'm gonna bring a bunch back not that i have a humidor!

All the "Cuban" Cohibas in Jamaica are fake, trust me.

VirtualSmitty 02-02-2012 03:30 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547573)
damn.......Next time I go to Jamaica, I'm gonna bring a bunch back not that i have a humidor!

Yea, don't do that.

NCRadioMan 02-02-2012 03:31 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Agreed. Sorry, bro.


So, that means there is good news! Odds are, there is a cigar available to you that is very similar to what you smoked. You just have to find it. :D

smitty81 02-02-2012 03:42 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1547581)
All the "Cuban" Cohibas in Jamaica are fake, trust me.

How do you figure? I have seen a fake VS a real Cohiba. Pretty sure mine was real.

1. The cigar was like nothing I have ever expierenced
2. I have read on how to spot the fakes vs the real ones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 1547584)
Yea, don't do that.

I ment to say now that I DO have a humidor.

smitty81 02-02-2012 03:46 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
http://havanajournal.com/images/REAL...IBA_CIGARS.jpg

mine VVVVVVVVV
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...neymoon061.jpg

dwoodward 02-02-2012 03:50 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Looks to me like a good clone. The yellow band is the wrong color tho. Also just noticed that the H and I have a uneven space between them. If you look at the real Cohiba band on many websites, the spacing is consistent with the rest of the letters.

smitty81 02-02-2012 03:52 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1547602)
Looks to me like a good clone. The yellow band is the wrong color tho.

show me a real one vs mine...........

NCRadioMan 02-02-2012 03:54 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
The font of 'Habana, Cuba' is wrong on yours, bro. Look closely at the real one you posted then at your band. Most glaringly, the "C" in Cuba.

I usually wouldn't go by bands alone but with Jamaica in the mix, that's red flags to me.

Bill86 02-02-2012 03:57 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Yeah the one you got was fake. The yellow looks off too IMO.

dwoodward 02-02-2012 03:58 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547605)
show me a real one vs mine...........

Also just noticed the Font is wrong on your picture. Look at the "C" of Cuba especially... that's a pretty dead giveaway right there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan (Post 1547607)
The font of 'Habana, Cuba' is wrong on yours, bro. Look closely at the real one you posted then at your band. Most glaringly, the "C" in Cuba.

I usually wouldn't go by bands alone but with Jamaica in the mix, that's red flags to me.

Dang, beat me too it! lol

smitty81 02-02-2012 03:58 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
well it was damn good if it was fake.............LOL

dwoodward 02-02-2012 04:01 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547610)
well it was damn good even though it was fake.............LOL

Fixed that for ya...

Don't feel too bad, if it tastes good, just be glad it wasn't a complete dog rocket. It's gotta be a good feeling knowing that at least it was a good smoke, real or not.

That's what happened to a buddy of mine when he went down to Mexico, came back with some fake Cohibas that were just awful tasting.

ApexAZ 02-02-2012 04:08 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Another thing I noticed is that in the picture of the authentic band, there is some black between the gold edge and the bottom row of white squares. On your band, the gold cuts through the bottom row of white squares, with no black in between.

The embossing also seems to be too pronounced.

I'm no expert though. Just pointing out some differences in the pictures.

ajacobs 02-02-2012 04:11 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Yep, unfortunately a fake but if you enjoyed it - great. The good news is that there are probably cigars available in the us that taste like your fake.

srduggins 02-02-2012 04:32 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
I had some of those with the same font "C" as yours. They really weren't bad tasting for fakes. I even took one apart and it was all long filler. Luckily, I learned my lesson and got those fakes out of my system.

smitty81 02-02-2012 04:32 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajacobs (Post 1547619)
Yep, unfortunately a fake but if you enjoyed it - great. The good news is that there are probably cigars available in the us that taste like your fake.

lol, yea but how would you know what to compare it to if it was a knock off, they could have used anything.

the nub 02-02-2012 04:42 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
consider yourself fortunate. the bar has been lowered considerably and you won't need to break any laws to reach it.

icehog3 02-02-2012 04:43 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547596)
How do you figure? I have seen a fake VS a real Cohiba. Pretty sure mine was real.

1. The cigar was like nothing I have ever expierenced
2. I have read on how to spot the fakes vs the real ones.



Sorry, didn't mean to insult your obvious expertise on Cuban Cohibas.

ajacobs 02-02-2012 04:44 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547631)
lol, yea but how would you know what to compare it to if it was a knock off, they could have used anything.

it's easy - Cigar international has a whole section called "the unsmokeables"

smitty81 02-02-2012 04:47 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1547647)
Sorry, didn't mean to insult your obvious expertise on Cuban Cohibas.


I didn't mean to come off as a dick. It just kinda threw me aback when someone told me my "cuban" was a fake even without knowing what it looked like or what not.

Kinda like me telling you that someone is an ass without ever meeting them or talking to them.

I apologize.

smitty81 02-02-2012 04:48 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajacobs (Post 1547649)
it's easy - Cigar international has a whole section called "the unsmokeables"

I assume that means "bad cigars"?

My knock off was actually pretty good.

icehog3 02-02-2012 04:50 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547654)
I didn't mean to come off as a dick. It just kinda threw me aback when someone told me my "cuban" was a fake even without knowing what it looked like or what not.

Kinda like me telling you that someone is an ass without ever meeting them or talking to them.

I apologize.

No sweat, bad day at work so I am a little short too.

I have been to many tropical destinations, and unless you shop at a La Casa del Habana shop, 99.99% of the stuff is fake. I should have been more detailed. I am sorry as well.

kelmac07 02-02-2012 04:52 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Bottom line...you enjoyed the stick. :tu

smitty81 02-02-2012 04:53 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1547657)
No sweat, bad day at work so I am a little short too.

I have been to many tropical destinations, and unless you shop at a La Casa del Habana shop, 99.99% of the stuff is fake. I should have been more detailed. I am sorry as well.

it's ok. I'm here to learn and make friends.

CigarNut 02-02-2012 04:54 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
BTW, what happened to you with your Fauxhibas has happened to most of us at one time or another.

I got some great Fauxhiba's in Cabo. Mine were not as good as yours and since they were my first "Cubans" they kind of turned me off on them. Now that I know better I am much happier (and have much less spending money :rolleyes:)

croatan 02-02-2012 05:01 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1547664)
BTW, what happened to you with your Fauxhibas has happened to most of us at one time or another.

Yup. I'd be hard-pressed to name anyone who's been smoking for a while who hasn't smoked a fake Cohiba or three. Come to think of it, the list of people I could name who've likely never smoked a real one would be far longer and easier to assemble.

Skywalker 02-02-2012 05:03 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547663)
it's ok. I'm here to learn and make friends.

Great response!!!:tu

smitty81 02-02-2012 05:10 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
delete

bobarian 02-02-2012 05:12 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547677)
so a couple of you on here appeared to have tried the real ones..........[edited by croatan]

Unfortunately, discussion of sources for Cuban cigars is a violation of the ToS. But yes, many of us have had legitimate Cohiba's.

smitty81 02-02-2012 05:16 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1547678)
Unfortunately, discussion of sources for Cuban cigars is a violation of the ToS. But yes, many of us have had legitimate Cohiba's.

My bad.

bobarian 02-02-2012 05:51 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
As Michael and James said, this is something most of have been through. Fakes are much easier to find in most countries than legit Cubans. Even in Cuba there are large amounts of fakes, some sporting legit bands smuggled out of the factories.

There was a time that Jamaica produced some fantastic cigars, this is no longer the case.

If the cigar came from any place other than an official LCDH in any country, the chances are good that it is a fake. :2

smitty81 02-02-2012 05:56 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1547708)
As Michael and James said, this is something most of have been through. Fakes are much easier to find in most countries than legit Cubans. Even in Cuba there are large amounts of fakes, some sporting legit bands smuggled out of the factories.

There was a time that Jamaica produced some fantastic cigars, this is no longer the case.

If the cigar came from any place other than an official LCDH in any country, the chances are good that it is a fake. :2

I tried that Jamaican cream..........It was nasty.

bobarian 02-02-2012 06:12 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1547713)
I tried that Jamaican cream..........It was nasty.

Just a shadow of what they were 20years ago.

celtic250 02-02-2012 07:05 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
The C is also different on two of them. Not sure if that means anything but on one the loop thing goes through the c (the one on the drink) then on the authentic one in the picture it doesnt swoop through the bottom of the C. If that makes any sense. I am talking about the part that says Cuba.

celtic250 02-02-2012 07:06 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by celtic250 (Post 1547786)
The C is also different on two of them. Not sure if that means anything but on one the loop thing goes through the c (the one on the drink) then on the authentic one in the picture it doesnt swoop through the bottom of the C. If that makes any sense. I am talking about the part that says Cuba.

Whoops already been mentioned :gary

floydpink 02-02-2012 07:22 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
I remember enjoying Royal Jamaica cigars a number of years ago, but heard the factory burned down and they are now made in the Dominican Republic and haven't tried them since.

TheCigarNut 02-02-2012 07:57 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Now seeing what you guys are saying - you have me worried that maybe I also fell prey. Mexico - Cancun, went to market 58, pretty sure they were fake ( 5 in a wood box w glass top ). They were not terrible but you could tell there was something off. Ended up going to LCDH and over paying but hey - sometimes its worth the peace of mind. What do you all think?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6...38b6319f8d.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6...64b326bfa5.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6...20f0e4b544.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6...a4ebd978a1.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6...e8301d6aa3.jpg

Sonic04GT 02-02-2012 07:59 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
While the experts are in here, this was given to me by a Cuban American that brought them back when he visited. Legit?

http://www.lolzilla.net/images/4325677.jpg
http://www.lolzilla.net/images/2155685.jpg
http://www.lolzilla.net/images/0187562.jpg

Bill86 02-02-2012 08:01 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
That Limitada is fake. 08 was the Sublime, not a torpedo tipped cigar.

icehog3 02-02-2012 08:13 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
David, who manages the LCdH in Cancun, is a solid guy. :tu

Digs 02-02-2012 08:24 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1547581)
All the "Cuban" Cohibas in Jamaica are fake, trust me.

Just like Mexico - isnt that were most all the "glass top" Cohibas come from ?

Bill86 02-02-2012 08:27 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digs (Post 1547877)
Just like Mexico - isnt that were most all the "glass top" Cohibas come from ?

Cohibos!

ysr_racer 02-02-2012 09:54 PM

Re: USA Cohiba Vs. Cuban Cohiba.
 
I once bought a Bolex watch in Mexico. It only cost $25 :)


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