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irratebass 10-16-2011 01:34 PM

To tap or roll??? That is the question
 
The other night I was out with some friends and I was snoking. I had a fairly long ash and this guy who thinks he knows everything about everything said it was time for me to ash. So I tapped it and he said I should have rolled the ash off.

I am sure its personal prefeenece, but it got me thinkijg and I have the roll tequnique and im not sure i am comfortable with it...+ I dont recall seing anyone do it at herfs.

So your opinions on this issue?

sevans105 10-16-2011 01:35 PM

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Lol...sounds like kind of a d!ck. Never heard/read/seen anything about that mattering in the least.

icehog3 10-16-2011 01:38 PM

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Do whatever you like to do. The guy is ridiculous.

LostAbbott 10-16-2011 01:39 PM

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I can't imagine how that would matter at all, plus to only reason to knock off your ash is that you are worried about it falling on your chest or crotch or something...

T.G 10-16-2011 01:42 PM

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Depends if you're tapping the ash itself or the body of the cigar. I've seen people destroy the wrappers on cigars by repeatedly forcefully tapping the body of them on the side/lip of the ashtray like one would do if they were ashing a cigarette. Not exactly "wrong" but not exactly good for the capa on the cigar either.

Past that, it's personal preference and how the cigar is rolled. Sometimes the ash breaks off clean with a tap, other times there's a cone of burning tobacco and rolling it off is more effective. Neither is wrong.

emopunker2004 10-16-2011 01:43 PM

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I tap the body lightly. Eff that guy. Tell him to smoke his and you'll smoke yours. :sl

wayner123 10-16-2011 01:43 PM

Re: To tap or roll??? That is the question
 
Do whatever you like. You can even ash it on yourself ala Aldrin style!

BTW, does this same guy only use cedar spills to light his cigars with?

bobarian 10-16-2011 01:44 PM

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Three match technique only. :sh
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neoflex 10-16-2011 01:48 PM

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I do it both ways and as others said this guy sounds like a douche. Guys like that usually don't like me as I am not known for holding back. I probably would have replied back with some snide remark after he made both comments. If there is one thing that annoys the living sh*t out of me, it's people who think they know everything about anything.

Jasonw560 10-16-2011 01:58 PM

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Sounds like this guy has a common ailment: The cranial-rectal impaction.

Tap, roll, it doesn't matter. I'd be right there with John, and say something sarcastic to him.

I tap because of the carpet outside. I don't want it falling off and burning a hole in it. Plus, I have ruined a shirt or two by having ash fall off early on.

gorob23 10-16-2011 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1442539)
Do whatever you like to do. The guy is ridiculous.

Agreed! all my friends tell me it's time after I have already ashed myself (ok I served up a softball who wants it ;) )

Rob :tf

RCS44 10-16-2011 02:13 PM

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Personal choice. I would hate to destroy the wrapper on a good cigar because you ashed it forcefully.

bobarian 10-16-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCS44 (Post 1442558)
Personal choice. I would hate to destroy the wrapper on a good cigar because you ashed it forcefully.

There's a difference between tapping and hammering. I smoke in my house, so I tap. Havent damaged a wrapper in five years. :sh
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mkarnold1 10-16-2011 02:21 PM

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I dig a hole and tap lightly on the side of the cigar to ash into it. After a few smokes, the hole starts to fill up a bit. If somebody lets me know that I'm ashing incorrectly, I just kick him in the ash hole.

Bill86 10-16-2011 02:21 PM

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I usually just lightly tap the cigar if the ash falls of it was time, if not meh I'll wait a few more draws.

I don't even know what roll it off means :sh

darkninja67 10-16-2011 02:28 PM

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I smoke outside and just use a downward hand motion and the ash lets go.

Col. Kurtz 10-16-2011 02:28 PM

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My ash usually falls off on the floor, or my shirt. If it doesn't come off with a light tap, I let it go. Without fail, it falls off three draws after the attempt. (little know addition to the rule of threes).

I have found much better smoking results by letting the ash stay on as long as possible. I used to obsess about tapping the ash off and had all sorts of burn problems.

emopunker2004 10-16-2011 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1442565)
I usually just lightly tap the cigar if the ash falls of it was time, if not meh I'll wait a few more draws.

I don't even know what roll it off means :sh

Bill is wise, a drunk but wise :r

Maestro 10-16-2011 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 1442562)
There's a difference between tapping and hammering. I smoke in my house, so I tap. Havent damaged a wrapper in five years. :sh
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Amen to that.

OP - sounds like the guy is a dick. Smoke your stick however you like it man. If you damage a wrapper.. Well that's a mistake you only make once

MurphysLaw 10-16-2011 03:07 PM

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Next time roll your ash into his drink :r

neoflex 10-16-2011 04:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1442583)
Next time roll your ash into his drink :r

Or his crotch!:r

Emjaysmash 10-16-2011 04:10 PM

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I like to show the cigar who is boss. I will normally curb-stomp the ash off.

neoflex 10-16-2011 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 1442628)
I like to show the cigar who is boss. I will normally curb-stomp the ash off.

:r

Loon 10-16-2011 06:16 PM

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This is almost as important as knowing if I should wipe front to back or back to front.
I think I should start a poll?

cort 10-16-2011 06:18 PM

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I just stare at my cigars instead of smoking them so I never have this problem.

ninjavanish 10-16-2011 07:22 PM

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Strictly technically speaking, you should always roll.

Most cigars are actually tough enough to withstand a gentle tap, however, you're still running a risk.

That being said, do what you want. It's your cigar.

bobarian 10-16-2011 07:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjavanish (Post 1442811)
Strictly technically speaking, you should always roll.

Most cigars are actually tough enough to withstand a gentle tap, however, you're still running a risk.

That being said, do what you want. It's your cigar.

Risk of what? :sh

Remo 10-16-2011 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1442542)
I tap the body lightly. Eff that guy. Tell him to smoke his and you'll smoke yours. :sl

Or just tell him to "Smoke Yours" and not your cigar :lr

dvickery 10-16-2011 07:41 PM

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i niether tap nor roll...i doink and tipple.
of the two i prefer doinking.

derrek :hm

Ogre 10-16-2011 07:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjavanish (Post 1442811)
Strictly technically speaking, you should always roll.

Most cigars are actually tough enough to withstand a gentle tap, however, you're still running a risk.

That being said, do what you want. It's your cigar.

I have cracked a few wrappers doing a tap, so I try to roll when I think about it. But I still tap. Do it how you like brother!!!!

gbum 10-16-2011 07:56 PM

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that guy is snoob,your cigar... your move:su

ktblunden 10-16-2011 08:10 PM

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I give mine a light tap with my index finger, not on the side of the ashtray. If the wrapper is fragile enough that it would crack when I did that, it would probably crack if you gently set it down in the ashtray or looked at it wrong. I'm not too concerned about whether I'm "properly" ashing my cigar, and honestly I'm not even sure what "rolling" it means.

CigarSquid 10-16-2011 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1442542)
I tap the body lightly. Eff that guy. Tell him to smoke his and you'll smoke yours. :sl

This!

WittyUserName 10-16-2011 09:25 PM

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Just tap it in, tap tap tappy.

emopunker2004 10-16-2011 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ktblunden (Post 1442846)
I give mine a light tap with my index finger, not on the side of the ashtray. If the wrapper is fragile enough that it would crack when I did that, it would probably crack if you gently set it down in the ashtray or looked at it wrong. I'm not too concerned about whether I'm "properly" ashing my cigar, and honestly I'm not even sure what "rolling" it means.

THIS? :sh


http://www.instructables.com/image/F...ing-it-Out.jpg

yourchoice 10-16-2011 09:35 PM

Re: To tap or roll??? That is the question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1442721)
This is almost as important as knowing if I should wipe front to back or back to front.
I think I should start a poll?

You are really loony! :r

Personal preference. I prefer to "tap that ash like the government". (bonus points if you know what song that's a play on)

I remember reading on the old forum that to get the ash to release easier when tapping, do a quick double draw and then tap. Works like a charm when you can't risk the mess.

icehog3 10-17-2011 12:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dvickery (Post 1442827)
i niether tap nor roll...i doink and tipple.
of the two i prefer doinking.

derrek :hm

Doinking is good. I like doinking too.

Stinky 10-17-2011 12:41 AM

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Incredible! Obviously your ash was bothering him. He's WAY too anal.

Interesting observation I've noticed since bringing out the Stinky Cigar Ashtrays . . . I've noticed that a lot of cigar smokers 'roll' their ash on the stirrup of an ashtray (all makes, brands and models). I find that inconsiderate. I sit down with a cigar and go to put it down on the stirrup and find someone has rubbed their cigar-smutz all over the stirrup. Where the FU** do you think the next guy can set his cigar? Ever seen that?

Rolling the Ash Off:
all that means is that you roll the loose ash particles off of your cigar to clean the ash so it doesn't flake off. Agree: it's a very personal preference! It really doesn't matter and certainly doesn't affect your cigar smoke, flavor or aroma one single bit! Of course, this is just my own personal opinion!

A good response would be a long, deliberate stare at the pompous ass, then say: Really? You gonna tell me how to knock the ash off of my cigar?? Geeeezzzzzz! Get a life, Pinhead!

MrClean 10-17-2011 03:06 AM

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I say both, first tap it on his head then roll it on his eye...that's my preference. :tu

irratebass 10-17-2011 03:29 AM

Re: To tap or roll??? That is the question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mkarnold1 (Post 1442563)
I dig a hole and tap lightly on the side of the cigar to ash into it. After a few smokes, the hole starts to fill up a bit. If somebody lets me know that I'm ashing incorrectly, I just kick him in the ash hole.

:tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1442565)
I usually just lightly tap the cigar if the ash falls of it was time, if not meh I'll wait a few more draws.

This has been my preference or motto since day one.

I don't even know what roll it off means :sh

Me either except like Stinky said to do it, which I have before, but only to clean up some flakiness off my ash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MurphysLaw (Post 1442583)
Next time roll your ash into his drink :r

This made me lol :tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stinky (Post 1443031)
Incredible! Obviously your ash was bothering him. He's WAY too anal.

Interesting observation I've noticed since bringing out the Stinky Cigar Ashtrays . . . I've noticed that a lot of cigar smokers 'roll' their ash on the stirrup of an ashtray (all makes, brands and models). I find that inconsiderate. I sit down with a cigar and go to put it down on the stirrup and find someone has rubbed their cigar-smutz all over the stirrup. Where the FU** do you think the next guy can set his cigar? Ever seen that?

Rolling the Ash Off:
all that means is that you roll the loose ash particles off of your cigar to clean the ash so it doesn't flake off. Agree: it's a very personal preference! It really doesn't matter and certainly doesn't affect your cigar smoke, flavor or aroma one single bit! Of course, this is just my own personal opinion!

I've never experienced anyone using the stirrup yet, that just seems asinine to me, why??

Thanks for all the responses guys, yeah he is a douche, but he's my mom's bf....kinda so I have to keep the peace & he doesn't smoke anymore and said his go to when he did was ONYX and to only order from Thompson.

I had to bite my tongue.

Apoco 10-17-2011 08:57 AM

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I usually roll the ash off. Makes me feel like a gentlemanly scholar!

But really - it is just how I learned to ash a cigar. :sh
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neoflex 10-17-2011 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by irratebass (Post 1443078)
:tu he's my mom's bf....kinda. I had to bite my tongue.

Brutal and I know the feeling. I often find myself biting my tongue with my wifes family even though I just want to verbally blast them most of the time. The last time was a couple weekends ago when my freeloading brother in-law was over and saw my overflowing cabinet and humis and his comment was, "Sure looks like a lot of cancer to me." I literally wanted to just say "F-U, you Mary." Keep in mind this is the same guy when we would have a party or BBQ where drinking was taking place always asked if I had anything fruity. He finally stopped asking and got the hint when the last time he asked me that question I embarrassed him and said "Nothing but my fruity brother in-law." My wife even chuckled but I did eat a lot of sh*t for not keeping that comment to myself later that night when he went home and whined and cried to his wife who in turn gave my wife a load of crap. He's the guy who has no problem dishing it out but never being able to take it. OK, back on topic. Your situation triggered a little pent up frustration that needed to be released.:D

w squared 10-17-2011 12:04 PM

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This question has never come up. Given that of the guys I normally smoke with, only one has what I would consider a sound knowledge of cigars (and that sure isn't me!)...and the fact that our favourite ashtray is a damaged Dana35 diff cover sitting on the middle of a 1/4" thick steel work bench, ashing technique has never really bin a topic of discussion -(P

But...we smoke what we like, and we like what we smoke :noon

Hippi3Slay3r 10-17-2011 12:09 PM

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Never an issue for me because I always forget and end up wearing it in my lap :)

Steve 10-17-2011 12:12 PM

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Enjoy your cigar, "tap and roll" the "expert".

Skywalker 10-17-2011 12:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippi3Slay3r (Post 1443535)
Never an issue for me because I always forget and end up wearing it in my lap :)

:tpd:

Sonic04GT 10-17-2011 12:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker (Post 1443553)
:tpd:

:tpd:

That, or my iPad screen.

Mr B 10-17-2011 12:42 PM

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Gotta love the "know it all"!!

I give one lite tap with my finger. If it doesnt release, it wasnt time. Let it ride for a little while longer.
I dont ash just to get rid of it, I ash when it gets long and is ready to plop.

Steve 10-17-2011 12:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1443590)
Gotta love the "know it all"!!

I give one lite tap with my finger. If it doesnt release, it wasnt time. Let it ride for a little while longer.
I dont ash just to get rid of it, I ash when it gets long and is ready to plop.

I'm with you brother.

Crownedone 10-17-2011 04:05 PM

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It all depends on where and when I am smoking.
Outside, hanging? Don't care.
Laying in bed drinking late at night? I keep it rolled off. Burned my self too many times.


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