Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees?
 

The coolest it gets in our house is 75 degrees, downstairs where I keep my humidor. It's usually around 80 up in the bedroom although it doesn't really feel that warm. I'd like to keep my humidor upstairs on my desk.

I know 75 is still a little warm for preventing cigar beetles, so, will it make a difference whether I keep it downstairs or upstairs?

Once it get's past 70 degrees, does the gradual increase in temperature indicate a gradual increase of beetle infestation?

Not serious enough to buy a wine cooler so right now I'll take my chances.

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Never Had A Beetle In My Sticks @ 75 Degrees Max In My Storage Area, But I Had Some @ 78.:(

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A difference of 5 degrees!!! J/K my humidor fluxulates between 70 and 80
Without a problem.

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Won't freezing the sticks properly eliminate the problem?
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My temp. fluctuates between 70 and 80 also, and I have never had a problem. I freeze everything when it comes in. Also I do watch my humidity and it maintains 64-66%.

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I might need to look into freezing. I was too lazy to read the long thread on it.

Doesn't seem like too bad of a process. Just curious of the risks to damaging the cigars. Seems like a pretty thorough process.

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It's pretty simple. Fridge for 12 hours, freeze for 48 hours, fridge for 12, room temp for 4-6 hours, place in humidor. That's what I do in my fridge/freezer. The first entry in that thread gives you the temp/duration ratios. Put them in a ziplock freezer bag and push out as much air as possible.
It seems like a lot of work, but after seeing the damage they can do, I'll do the work every time.
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I haven't had any damage and most say it doesn't affect the flavor. I think the biggest risk is wrapper splits, but if you do the fridge/freezer/fridge/room temp, it should minimize it. I've had wrapper issues with and without the freezing so I believe it's nil.
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Thanks, I might give that a try. I'm somewhat impatient but I'm not sure I want to risk trying it with all 32 of my cigars at once. I know that's not many but to me it is haha

Maybe throw a couple in and see what happens. That essentially turns it into a 6 day process though.

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A constant 80 is pushing your luck,if not and it's not a big collection,I wouldn't worry about it.

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It's a 50ct humidor so not a big collection but would of course be very upsetting. I'm going to be gone for a month soon so I won't be able to check them.

Unless I get a good size tupperware and bring most with me.

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This.

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Yeah I think I'm definitely going to do that. I usually don't like checking bags but lately I've been traveling with my handgun so I'm required to check one anyway. Why not bring the stogies along for a ride :tu

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What is your RH at?? At those temps I would be concerned with mold as well.

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I'd still put your smokes in your carry on. I don't trust the baggers to not throw my stuff around enough. They don't care about cigars being taken on the plane, I got through Canadian and US customs with them in my carry on and not a word was said.

:2

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Tupperware can and will over humidify.

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Lol it's always something...

As for my RH, it's been all over the place lately but the end result I'm aiming for is 65-69%.

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I recently decided to go through and freeze my entire stash (300+ sticks) and I did not have one cigar come out with a split wrapper. I went straight to the freezer for 72 hours, then 24 in the fridge, then a couple hours to get to room temp then back in the cooler. I've since avoided the fridge altogether, just going straight into the freezer, then out on the counter until it gets to room temperature. Still no problems. I triple bag them in ziplocks before putting them in.

It's really not much additional effort for peace of mind. I'd strongly suggest it if your temps are getting up around 80.

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Yeah I think I just may do that. Thanks.

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I would never let my cigars sit in a consistent 80 degree room. Keep it downstairs...

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I keep the house at 78... im in central florida.

I keep my humi's at ~62-65%.

I havent had any problems with beetles, I normally dont freeze, but I should start. :o

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What is your method for maintaining 62-65?

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Heartfelt beads.

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I'm in the desert in California and I also keep the air at 78 and the cooler in the same range. I use silica kitty litter.

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I've been using it forever, Dave. Especially for overflow stuff and troop sticks. I have no problems whatsoever if I use Michael's beads or Boveda packs. I can see it going wild if a guy is in a high humidity area with no beads and is constantly opening it, but compared to a cheapo humi I have always thought it a far safer way to store sticks. Think "small coolidor".
Lots of times I use no beads or anything. I just toss in the sticks and a hygro and seal them up. I'll check the tub after a few days and if all is good, I retrieve my hygrometer. Mind ya, they're slap full of cigars, and those cigars are already well conditioned.
The only reason I posted is because I hoped you'd tell me what the instances are where it'd overhumidify, in your experience. I was gonna ask last time I saw this and now it's totally got the best of me, I had to ask.

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Woops. I missed the percent sign and thought you were talking about temperature. So your humi stays at 78?

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Until winter time.

Sometimes it will be at 80 if we are gone for a week.

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What help drop the temp for me was my walk in closet that has an A/C vent in it. I did two things, one was to keep the door closed at all times which dropped the temp from 77 to 73/74 degrees for my two humidors. The other thing I did was to elevate my long Pelican gun case that was turned into a Pelicoor and I was able to place it on an upper shelf that allows the A/C vent to blow right on it. My Pelicoor runs right about a consent 71/72 degrees.

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Mine's in the mid to low 70's. 40-50 count. My humidity has spiked to 76, though I think that's because my supply was low until litterally just now. If more sticks hasn't soaked up the excess I'll adjust my removing a water pillow or two.

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5 degrees

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Little late on that one.

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That's what SHE said!

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Hmmm... What about putting your 50 ct humi inside a cooler? I suppose if you really needed to cool it down, you could occasionally throw a sealed ice pack in there wrapped in a small towel for a few hours/overnight or something to keep temps down.

My den/man cave stays around 65 degrees year round in northern MN, so I've never had to worry about the heat issue.

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You need to be real careful with using ice (or the equivalent) in a cooler (or humidor). Even wrapped in a towel the ice is going to create a lot of condensation. It has to pull that moisture from somewhere, so it could play havoc with your RH.

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Well with the door closed downstairs the small guest room gets down to around 73-74. I will just keep it there until I can find a means to cool the upstairs bedroom.

The stogies just came out of the freezer this morning. Thawing in the fridge now.

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Good point. That's why I was thinking of limiting the time it was in there, and if that little time would even have a lasting effect.

But, I'm also not the expert. You sir know way more about that than I do.

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Got down to around 72 earlier, so that will definitely suffice.