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PindarsLight 09-22-2011 10:00 PM

Packs or Boxes?
 
I smoke but not often enough I don't think to make a huge coolidor or get multiple humidors. I was wondering what your thoughts are on a guy on a budget (wife and kids) This isn't my hobby nor something I think most of my money will go to. Should I just get like a travel humidor and by 5 packs? or should I get a quality humidor that holds 40 cigars and call it gravy?

I love smoking cigars and I enjoyed everyone of them I had on my deployments and stuff and I want to continue to smoke, just not sure how I should go about it:dr

T.G 09-22-2011 10:41 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PindarsLight (Post 1417871)
I smoke but not often enough I don't think to make a huge coolidor or get multiple humidors. I was wondering what your thoughts are on a guy on a budget (wife and kids) This isn't my hobby nor something I think most of my money will go to. Should I just get like a travel humidor and by 5 packs? or should I get a quality humidor that holds 40 cigars and call it gravy?

I love smoking cigars and I enjoyed everyone of them I had on my deployments and stuff and I want to continue to smoke, just not sure how I should go about it:dr


I think you should get a 150 count and call it George.

neoflex 09-22-2011 10:49 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Get a cooler and call it Tim because we all sounded like you at one point or another and than we all eventually go slip sliding away down the slope and out grow our realistic and practical smaller humidors into larger and multiple humidors. If you would like to keep your inventory down to a practical 5 to 10 sticks at a clip my only advice is to delete this place from your memory and your internet history and forget you ever stumbled upon this place as we are all very bad influences on each other.:D

icehog3 09-22-2011 11:59 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Yup...think about the biggest humidor you might need....and multiply that times 3. ;)

Remo 09-23-2011 12:47 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1417963)
Yup...think about the biggest humidor you might need....and multiply that times 3. ;)

This

Bill86 09-23-2011 12:52 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Coolidors are cheaper than wooden desktops may as well get a nice 70 Quart and toss a pound of beads in it.

jdakine 09-23-2011 02:35 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1417963)
Yup...think about the biggest humidor you might need....and multiply that times 3. ;)

Agree, however this math word problem has not worked for me. Started off on track, however it has grown and i'm not slipping down the slop, i'm flying down it :D Just added a 100 qt cooler to the collection.

BTW: My father was stationed at Ft Riley in the early 60's, was born there.

Good luck, God Bless :tu

thechrisdotcom 09-23-2011 05:21 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
If you don't find yourself smoking a lot, why not get a nice little humidor? 40ct would be good enough.

Or you could just get a jar and put a humidifier in it. Though I prefer to lay my cigars down rather than having them stand on end.

longknocker 09-23-2011 05:43 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Buy A Large Tupperware Container & Put One 65% Boveda Pack In It Every 3 Months. My Co-Workers Have Been Using These For Years. Cheap As Dirt & Works Well!:tu
Here's A Link: http://www.bovedadirect.com/

Subvet642 09-23-2011 06:10 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 1418179)
Buy A Large Tupperware Container & Put One 65% Boveda Pack In It Every 3 Months. My Co-Workers Have Been Using These For Years. Cheap As Dirt & Works Well!:tu
Here's A Link: http://www.bovedadirect.com/

Yup!

Country313 09-23-2011 06:18 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
I was in your situation a few years ago. I'd buy a few cigars here and there and store them in an 8 count traveler I'd bought. Then I went to an out of town smoke shop and saw a 75-100ct ACID humidor (at that point all I smoked were ACID cigars) I bought it and kept 10-15 in it at a time. Recently I have contracted the cigar virus and have added about 70 ACID cigars to that humi. and thanks to the inernet I have about 75 non acid's on their way. I picked up a few ziploc storage containers and a few drymistat tubes. They aren't as pretty but they'll get the job done and I can slide them under the bed and out of the way...

pnoon 09-23-2011 06:33 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Country313 (Post 1418202)
I was in your situation a few years ago. I'd buy a few cigars here and there and store them in an 8 count traveler I'd bought. Then I went to an out of town smoke shop and saw a 75-100ct ACID humidor (at that point all I smoked were ACID cigars) I bought it and kept 10-15 in it at a time. Recently I have contracted the cigar virus and have added about 70 ACID cigars to that humi. and thanks to the inernet I have about 75 non acid's on their way. I picked up a few ziploc storage containers and a few drymistat tubes. They aren't as pretty but they'll get the job done and I can slide them under the bed and out of the way...

Just don't put the non-ACIDs in the same humi as your ACIDs.

OLS 09-23-2011 06:34 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
You should be fine. Don't let these reprobates affect your buying decisions. THERE ARE people in the world who can
buy a few cigars, keep them in proper conditions and enjoy this endeavor without having to own everything. I think
based on the way you describe your situation, it would be best if you did exactly what you seem intent on doing.
Enjoy it as a dalliance and leave it at that. A 50-100 ct. humidor would be good for you. However, I would suggest
trying to find a good one or having one made by Waxing Moon that would hold really good humidity. A 50 dollar
humidor is going to keep smokes like a 50 dollar humidor. If all you want is a box, no trays or frills, you should be
able to get something small AND custom for a reasonable rate.

CigarSquid 09-23-2011 06:43 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Listen to what they all said. I bought a 50 ct desktop.. Plenty! SIKE! Then I got a small travel one, Bad move... I just got done setting the cooler up.. See how long that last.

Go bigger then you think and multiply it by 3-5.. and always look for teh deals.. You will want/need more.

pnoon 09-23-2011 06:47 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1418223)
Listen to what they all said. I bought a 50 ct desktop.. Plenty! SIKE! Then I got a small travel one, Bad move... I just got done setting the cooler up.. See how long that last.

Go bigger then you think and multiply it by 3-5.. and always look for teh deals.. You will want/need more.

I disagree. There is no way to know that.

That is assuming that every person new to this hobby will go overboard. That simply is not true. Why should someone go all in only to find out 6 months from now that cigars aren't what he thought they'd be.

While it is true that many of us have grown into larger storage media, there are just as many who have been a flash in the pan.

I do agree that once you realize that you have truly been bitten by the bug, then go big. But not until then.

:2

CigarSquid 09-23-2011 06:50 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Yes, True. I haven't been here long enough to see someone just do a little bit.

With that said, I would do a 30-50 ct desktop. If you plan on traveling with them, Do at least a 15 ct.

That was my route.

icehog3 09-23-2011 08:34 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1418216)
Just don't put the non-ACIDs in the same humi as your ACIDs.

WHY ARE YOU YELLING ABOUT ACIDS! Don't you know that you can type ACID with just the "A" capitalized? I don't go on and on about PARTAGAS and RAMON ALLONES by yelling, Peter. You really need to stop shouting about ACIDS.

14holestogie 09-23-2011 08:37 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1418299)
WHY ARE YOU YELLING ABOUT ACIDS! Don't you know that you can type ACID with just the "A" capitalized? I don't go on and on about PARTAGAS and RAMON ALLONES by yelling, Peter. You really need to stop shouting about ACIDS.

Someone needs to get in here and calm these mods down. :D

Call in the Mod Mods......;)

PindarsLight 09-23-2011 09:04 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Thanks guy I'm pretty glad I got referred to such a professional and honest forum not to many of these anymore. I like cigars but as I said I wanna keep it at a minium I'm a very simplistic individual so the 50 count is right up my alley. Thanks again gents

pektel 09-23-2011 09:16 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
I will add that a 100 count is probably the best way to go for a beginner, or wants to keep a small collection. Why, you ask? Because you may find a single cigar you like, and want to buy a box of them (per stick price gets lower when purchasing by the box). A 100 count will allow you to store the entire box inside the humi.

I got my 100 count for $45 shipped on cbid, and it works fine for me. Though in the winter, I do transfer everything from it into one of my coolers (I don't smoke many cigars in the winter, and a cooler holds RH VERY well.

pnoon 09-23-2011 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1418299)
WHY ARE YOU YELLING ABOUT ACIDS! Don't you know that you can type ACID with just the "A" capitalized? I don't go on and on about PARTAGAS and RAMON ALLONES by yelling, Peter. You really need to stop shouting about ACIDS.


Sorry, Tom. How's this?
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T.G 09-23-2011 09:20 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PindarsLight (Post 1418351)
Thanks guy I'm pretty glad I got referred to such a professional and honest forum not to many of these anymore. I like cigars but as I said I wanna keep it at a minium I'm a very simplistic individual so the 50 count is right up my alley. Thanks again gents


Something to consider, which I should have explained as the reason for why I suggested a 150, is that a 50 count humidor probably won't hold 50 cigars unless they are corona-ish sized vitolas - 40 to 44 RG and 4.5" to 5.5" in length. Once you start filling a humidor with larger cigars, like toros, robustos, belicosos, churchills, 6x60s, you will find that most 50-count humidors will only hold about 30-40. Whereas most 150s will hold about 120 or so if jam packed, but with the extra space, you won't have to pack it, as packing it tight is something that you might not want to do because when you start moving cigars around a lot to get to specific sticks, you start upping the chances of damaging the wrappers on the cigars.

shilala 09-23-2011 09:27 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 1418179)
Buy A Large Tupperware Container & Put One 65% Boveda Pack In It Every 3 Months. My Co-Workers Have Been Using These For Years. Cheap As Dirt & Works Well!:tu
Here's A Link: http://www.bovedadirect.com/

I'm with Greg, 100%.
A tupperware container with a Boveda pack is going to keep your cigars in perfect shape. Odds are that a cheap desktop will not.
If you find that this is something that you'll enjoy down the road and want a nice desktop humidor, you can start saving and buy one that will actually work. You can even modify a cheapo and make it seal well enough to keep your smokes in a nice, airtight, humidity controlled environment, which is what you're after with a humidor.

N2 GOLD 09-23-2011 10:55 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Just get yourself a nice quality humidor that can hold atleast 50 count. Once you took that first hit of a cigar you were hooked for LIFE. -(P No stopping or turning back now. Accept it & come to terms with it. Just enjoy the KICK A$$ ride. :tu All of us here started with just one cigar & look at us now. Everyone starts with a few sticks then come the 5ers, small humi, med humi & then before you know it you get a "CABINET" :banger

pektel 09-23-2011 11:01 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by N2 GOLD (Post 1418473)
Just get yourself a nice quality humidor that can hold atleast 50 count. Once you took that first hit of a cigar you were hooked for LIFE. -(P No stopping or turning back now. Accept it & come to terms with it. Just enjoy the KICK A$$ ride. :tu All of us here started with just one cigar & look at us now. Everyone starts with a few sticks then come the 5ers, small humi, med humi & then before you know it you get a "CABINET" :banger

I bought a larger cooler last month (maybe 2 months ago). The large cooler is now almost full, and I have a box and some singles on the way. But that shouldn't take up too much room... :D

The smaller cooler is now nicely packed with flavored sticks for the gf (thanks again, ninja).

Ashcan Bill 09-23-2011 11:11 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1418219)
You should be fine. Don't let these reprobates affect your buying decisions. THERE ARE people in the world who can
buy a few cigars, keep them in proper conditions and enjoy this endeavor without having to own everything. I think
based on the way you describe your situation, it would be best if you did exactly what you seem intent on doing.
Enjoy it as a dalliance and leave it at that. A 50-100 ct. humidor would be good for you. However, I would suggest
trying to find a good one or having one made by Waxing Moon that would hold really good humidity. A 50 dollar
humidor is going to keep smokes like a 50 dollar humidor. If all you want is a box, no trays or frills, you should be
able to get something small AND custom for a reasonable rate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PindarsLight (Post 1418351)
Thanks guy I'm pretty glad I got referred to such a professional and honest forum not to many of these anymore. I like cigars but as I said I wanna keep it at a minium I'm a very simplistic individual so the 50 count is right up my alley. Thanks again gents

This. I used a good quality 50 count cherry desktop for many years as my sole unit for keeping cigars, and was very happy. Admittedly I've expanded my storage capacity a bit since then, but I still use and place a high sentimental value on my 50 count. My only advice would be to do what Brad suggests and purchase a quality humidor that you can use for the next fifty years.

Skywalker 09-23-2011 12:12 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
If you get a 50 count humi and find yourself playing peekaboo every few hours... you may need a bigger storage unit!!!

If you lay awake at night thinking about your cigars... you may need a bigger storage unit!!!

If you sort your cigars biggest to smallest... you may need a bigger storage unit!!!

If you play here in the Asylum every day... you will need a bigger storage unit!!!
;)

Chemyst 09-23-2011 11:50 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
I used a 150 ct. for the first 3 years. A Tupperdor is another vg option.
Now have a Vinotemp for boxes and 2 drawers of loose singles/fivers.
Still use the 150 ct. for high end sticks, only.

You could probably post a WTB, and get a 50-100 ct. pretty cheap, from
someone who has moved up to a coolerdor.

Chemyst :cool2:

PindarsLight 09-24-2011 11:32 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chemyst (Post 1419309)
I used a 150 ct. for the first 3 years. A Tupperdor is another vg option.
Now have a Vinotemp for boxes and 2 drawers of loose singles/fivers.
Still use the 150 ct. for high end sticks, only.

You could probably post a WTB, and get a 50-100 ct. pretty cheap, from
someone who has moved up to a coolerdor.

Chemyst :cool2:

There is a section for this? I will look around:dr:noon

T.G 09-24-2011 12:02 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PindarsLight (Post 1419555)
There is a section for this? I will look around:dr:noon


As a new member, you probably can't see the WTB/WTS/WTT section yet. After some time and participation, sections not visible to you at the present time should eventually open up.

lyle23 09-24-2011 03:43 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Do what ever it is that works for you and your budget. Take what everyone has said into consideration, and make your decision based upon your budget. Just my :2

PindarsLight 09-24-2011 04:03 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
I'm gonna go with a small humi and call it gravy I don't see myself smoking alot right now and I prefer the smaller smokes because I don't have the patience or the area at my house to smoke a stogie.

I like the idea of the Tupperware as a humi but ill go for the 50 count and smoke the stogies I like.

ckay 09-24-2011 06:10 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 1418179)
Buy A Large Tupperware Container & Put One 65% Boveda Pack In It Every 3 Months. My Co-Workers Have Been Using These For Years. Cheap As Dirt & Works Well!:tu
Here's A Link: http://www.bovedadirect.com/

Start here. Inexpensive, and gets the job done.

gator_79 09-24-2011 07:29 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
I agree with what has already been said. Start with a tuperware container large enough to store your sticks in. They are cheap and you can always move up to a cooler later. I started with a 150 ct desktop and it didn't take long to fill it up. I moved up to a 70 qt. cooler with 1 lb of beads. I am now working on filling up my second 70 qt. cooler.

PindarsLight 09-24-2011 09:34 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ckay (Post 1419910)
Start here. Inexpensive, and gets the job done.

does it matter which packet I get? and should I get a digital read out or an analog to go with it?

How large should I go? Should I get it big enough to put dividers in it? What dividers are the best to use?

Is there a particular Tupperware that better then another?

ysr_racer 09-24-2011 11:20 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 1418179)
Buy A Large Tupperware Container & Put One 65% Boveda Pack In It Every 3 Months. My Co-Workers Have Been Using These For Years. Cheap As Dirt & Works Well!:tu
Here's A Link: http://www.bovedadirect.com/

Agreed, I have a few myself.

Starscream 09-24-2011 11:30 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 1418302)
Someone needs to get in here and calm these mods down. :D

Call in the Mod Mods......;)

:hm
Who is the moderator of the moderators? What is the sound of one hand clapping? If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
:hm


:)

Starscream 09-24-2011 11:32 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PindarsLight (Post 1419765)
I'm gonna go with a small humi and call it gravy I don't see myself smoking alot right now and I prefer the smaller smokes because I don't have the patience or the area at my house to smoke a stogie.

I like the idea of the Tupperware as a humi but ill go for the 50 count and smoke the stogies I like.

sounds good. If you get the bug, then you will upgrade soon. if not, then you'll be ok with what you have.

PindarsLight 09-25-2011 06:42 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysr_racer (Post 1420203)
Agreed, I have a few myself.

So I'm guessing you have alot considering you may have a different brand in each container?

ckay 09-25-2011 07:17 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PindarsLight (Post 1420115)
does it matter which packet I get? and should I get a digital read out or an analog to go with it?

How large should I go? Should I get it big enough to put dividers in it? What dividers are the best to use?

Is there a particular Tupperware that better then another?

Any Tupperware that utilizes a gasket will work fine. A large 65% humipack is perfect.

As far as dividers, they aren't necessary. If you want to use them, go to your B&M and see if they will give you empty boxes. More times than not they are lined with thin sheets of cedar.

As far as a hygrometer get a digital unit and calibrate it. To do so, you just need to throw it in the Tupperware with your hydration packet and see if they coincide after a day. If not, you have your standard error.

Lastly all you need is three Boveda packs to rotate as you can recharge these.

DMK 09-25-2011 07:55 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Great advice from all here, for me it all started with buying a single cigar....:r
I bought my first (of many) humidors after the FIL brought 2 boxes of Monte #4's from the ISOM.... it was a 60.
Bought a 100, was gifted a 40, bought a 300, then the first cooler, picked up a second and yesterday a third....
I'm looking at a vino and getting rid of the wood humidors.
My suggestion is to pick up a smaller cooler, you can always use it for beer if you don't fall off the slope, and if you do, you can still use it for beer.
Relax and enjoy the ride:tu

CigarSquid 09-25-2011 08:08 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMK (Post 1420314)
Great advice from all here, for me it all started with buying a single cigar....:r
I bought my first (of many) humidors after the FIL brought 2 boxes of Monte #4's from the ISOM.... it was a 60.
Bought a 100, was gifted a 40, bought a 300, then the first cooler, picked up a second and yesterday a third....
I'm looking at a vino and getting rid of the wood humidors.
My suggestion is to pick up a smaller cooler, you can always use it for beer if you don't fall off the slope, and if you do, you can still use it for beer.
Relax and enjoy the ride:tu

:tu:tu:tu

PindarsLight 09-25-2011 08:58 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ckay (Post 1420300)
Any Tupperware that utilizes a gasket will work fine. A large 65% humipack is perfect.

As far as dividers, they aren't necessary. If you want to use them, go to your B&M and see if they will give you empty boxes. More times than not they are lined with thin sheets of cedar.

As far as a hygrometer get a digital unit and calibrate it. To do so, you just need to throw it in the Tupperware with your hydration packet and see if they coincide after a day. If not, you have your standard error.

Lastly all you need is three Boveda packs to rotate as you can recharge these.

something like this maybe?

http://www.amazon.com/Tupperware-Mod...962663&sr=8-24

Ashcan Bill 09-25-2011 09:15 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PindarsLight (Post 1420115)
does it matter which packet I get? and should I get a digital read out or an analog to go with it?

How large should I go? Should I get it big enough to put dividers in it? What dividers are the best to use?

Is there a particular Tupperware that better then another?

I got tired of trying to figure out where to put the odd bundle I'd pick up. Seems like I was always trying to cram them in here or there. I finally bought one of these. I keep a small container of beads in it and with the airtight silicone seal it sports, I can pretty much forget about it for long periods of time (still have a couple JLP bundles in it). It holds around six bundles, with room left over.

Linky

PindarsLight 09-25-2011 02:45 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Can the bag of beads be budded up against the stogies? I found a 20 piece set that would be perfect for several 5 packs..or more I just don't want to stack different cigars in the same container and risk ruining them.

DevilBane 09-25-2011 03:56 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
A small cooler and a couple boveda packs is all i started with and it worked great for me. Just as everyone else has said already, buy 3 times bigger than what you think you need.

Ashcan Bill 09-25-2011 04:42 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PindarsLight (Post 1420482)
Can the bag of beads be budded up against the stogies? I found a 20 piece set that would be perfect for several 5 packs..or more I just don't want to stack different cigars in the same container and risk ruining them.

I just have beads sitting in a little square plastic container I picked up at Target or Wally World or somewhere. Same thing in my smaller desktop. I wouldn't want the bag to be laying right up against my cigars. Maybe put the bag in a baggie and leave it unsealed?

PindarsLight 09-25-2011 05:56 PM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
This is what I ended up getting, the one with the m&ms is the size I got the lids do not have a gasket but seal pretty tight as I can't squeeze air out. I will do a water test to be sure but I have a feeling these will do fine.

http://www.rubbermaid.com/Category/P...od_ID=RP091887

My next question is do all 5 packs usually are wrapped in plastic if so could I leave one end of said plastic open and put the beads on or near it?

PindarsLight 09-26-2011 10:33 AM

Re: Packs or Boxes?
 
They seem to have a a tight seal, the inside is about 8 inchs I figure if I buy 5.5 or less I should be fine then I could put some beads in it and call it good


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