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Jon11 07-10-2011 02:52 PM

Need help with a Humidor
 
Alright guys, I need help buying a humidor. Looking for one that holds anywhere from 150-300 cigars. It will be my 1st humidor, but I want to get something nice that will last and keep my cigars fresh for long term storage as well as short term. Can yall suggest a specific humidor and the best place to buy it. Also if I will need anything else for the humidor to get started, I know most come equipped but just wandering if I need to buy anything else to go with it besides cigars to fill it up. Thanks for your help,
Jon

icehog3 07-10-2011 03:57 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Start here:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=621

icehog3 07-10-2011 03:59 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Beads for humidification:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=618

Buy them from n2advnture, CigarNut or Heartfelt Industries.

icehog3 07-10-2011 04:00 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Buy a digital hygrometer (analog are generally unreliable).

Then season your humidor:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=620

icehog3 07-10-2011 04:03 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
I have bought several humidors here:

http://www.cheaphumidors.com/

Another reliable option, Mark is also a member here are started all the threads I linked:

http://www.cigarmony.com/humidors-desktop.aspx

MrOneEyedBoh 07-10-2011 04:08 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
I have a 300 cigar humidor for sale as we speak. Good price too, IMO. Here is the link

100 plus the shipping to you. At cheap humidor its around 165

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=46621

icehog3 07-10-2011 04:11 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh (Post 1331290)
I have a 300 cigar humidor for sale as we speak. Good price too, IMO. Here is the link

100 plus the shipping to you. At cheap humidor its around 165

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=46621

Jon won't have access to the WTS Forum for a while. ;)

longknocker 07-10-2011 04:27 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Great Advice, Tom!:tu

Drez 07-10-2011 04:30 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
What Tom said :r:r

MrOneEyedBoh 07-10-2011 04:49 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1331293)
Jon won't have access to the WTS Forum for a while. ;)

Oh I was unaware there was a post count limit.

mscales 07-10-2011 04:50 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
I started with this and I really like it; http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ewhouse064.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...estonebony.jpg

But I wanted somehting a little larger so I bought this Treasure Dome humidor;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...omehumidor.jpg

I really like this one too. I purchased it at Cigarbid.com for about $100 shippied. You can get a deal if you don't get in a hurry.

MrOneEyedBoh 07-10-2011 05:19 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
/\ yeah I have that dome one too, its great and holds the RH nice.

longknocker 07-10-2011 05:48 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh (Post 1331331)
/\ yeah I have that dome one too, its great and holds the RH nice.

Just Be Very Careful Opening It. The Hinge Breaks Loose Very Easily!;)

sheeper 07-10-2011 06:04 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
cigarbid.com is a great place for humidors. just keep watching and watch the bids.

chippewastud79 07-10-2011 06:05 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscales (Post 1331318)

I really like this one too. I purchased it at Cigarbid.com for about $100 shippied. You can get a deal if you don't get in a hurry.

:tpd: Treasure Dome for under $100 (around $92 for mine if I remember correctly) shipped to your door courtesy of The Devil :tu

MrOneEyedBoh 07-10-2011 08:21 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 1331344)
Just Be Very Careful Opening It. The Hinge Breaks Loose Very Easily!;)

really? Maybe yours was a fluke. I haven't heard that yet :sh

Remo 07-10-2011 08:31 PM

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Have one made, that would be my choice :tu

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alexa071 07-11-2011 02:44 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh (Post 1331489)
really? Maybe yours was a fluke. I haven't heard that yet :sh

Nope... same thing happened to me. Damn lid fell right off. That's why I'm having Ed at Waxingmoon make me a new one! I highly suggest steering clear of the Treasure dome.

Randy

longknocker 07-11-2011 03:38 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alexa071 (Post 1331835)
Nope... same thing happened to me. Damn lid fell right off. That's why I'm having Ed at Waxingmoon make me a new one! I highly suggest steering clear of the Treasure dome.

Randy

:tu That's What I Did. No Problems Now!:banger

Blak Smyth 07-11-2011 05:30 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh (Post 1331316)
Oh I was unaware there was a post count limit.

Thats why I still haven't been able to see your pics:bhd
I was gonna send him your info, but I see you found him.

OLS 07-11-2011 06:33 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
I would have to agree with Waxing Moon Humidors, simply because you stated cleary 'something nice that will last".
Ed will take some fine Hardwood and put together a box that will seal perfectly. I have not done anything with mine
yet, so I can't tell you how well they hold humidity, but I am guessing pretty well. I was not a fan of the grain on
the wood used on mine, but I chose a quirky wood in the first place, and it is still a nice box. You are not going to
get a hundred dollar humidor, but the lid isn't going to fall off, either. You will always be able to get what you paid
for it if you sell it, but it is more of an heirloom anyway, so it will likely never leave the family. I would send a private
message to WaxingMoon and get him started in building you one. Check this forum for the thread. I will not link to it.

MrOneEyedBoh 07-11-2011 11:44 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1331917)
Thats why I still haven't been able to see your pics:bhd
I was gonna send him your info, but I see you found him.

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexa071 (Post 1331835)
Nope... same thing happened to me. Damn lid fell right off. That's why I'm having Ed at Waxingmoon make me a new one! I highly suggest steering clear of the Treasure dome.

Randy

DAmn fellas.. Now what to do with this? I cant throw it away, its in perfect condition. Maybe Mark it down a tad more?

CoreyD 07-11-2011 12:47 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon11 (Post 1331242)
Looking for one that holds anywhere from 150-300 cigars. It will be my 1st humidor, but I want to get something nice that will last and keep my cigars fresh for long term storage as well as short term. Can yall suggest a specific humidor and the best place to buy it. Also if I will need anything else for the humidor to get started, I know most come equipped but just wandering if I need to buy anything else to go with it besides cigars to fill it up. Thanks for your help,
Jon

I would have to agree with the waxing moon humidor if you want something nice and longlasting and the $$ isn't an issue and then for the beads I myself use http://www.shilalabeads.com/default.asp . Now i personally don't care on looks but wanted space so i bought 2 air tight coolers and some beads to keep it well humidified and I can keep over 15 full boxes and still have room in both of them and the coolers only cost me 20 a piece.

CigarNut 07-11-2011 12:57 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
I would agree with everyone else -- Waxing Moon is great. However they are not inexpensive. If you are first starting out, I would go with something more common. Several here have had problems with hinges on Treasure Dome's and others have not.

If you can find one (any humi) at a good price, give it a shot... If the hinges break during the warranty period then you can get your humi replaced or maybe even your money back. If it breaks outside the warranty period you can probably fix it with some good glue and a clamp.. Just my :2

Jon11 07-11-2011 01:11 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Thanks for all the help guys. One question if my humidor only requires 2.5 ounces of beads is it ok to put a 4 ounce bag in?

Trkdrvremt 07-11-2011 01:15 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon11 (Post 1332217)
Thanks for all the help guys. One question if my humidor only requires 2.5 ounces of beads is it ok to put a 4 ounce bag in?

You could if you keep more then half the bag dry.... But why not just put in less?

jesseboston81 07-11-2011 01:16 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trkdrvremt (Post 1332223)
You could if you keep more then half the bag dry.... But why not just put in less?

What? You want to keep about half the bag dry no matter what so that the beads can absorb excess humidity from the air.

The only problem with putting more beads in than the calculated "correct" amount is that they take up room that could be occupied by smokes! Having more beads than the "correct" amount will help compensate for swings in humidity (such as when you open the humidor).

Jon11 07-11-2011 01:17 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Because they come in 2 ounce or 4 ounce bags. The Shilala's beads.

jesseboston81 07-11-2011 01:21 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon11 (Post 1332226)
Because they come in 2 ounce or 4 ounce bags. The Shilala's beads.

Personally, given a choice between the two options, I would go with the four ounce bag to keep a better equilibrium in my humidor. Currently in my vinodor I actually have more than twice the recommended amount just because, as often as it runs during these summer months, I want the humidity to come back up as fast as possible.

CoreyD 07-11-2011 01:59 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon11 (Post 1332226)
Because they come in 2 ounce or 4 ounce bags. The Shilala's beads.

I and some others have put more beads than required in for the shilala beads but in no way do you add water on the beads, If I need to raise the humidity I put a 1/2 cup measure cup of distilled water in the cooler and slowly raise the humidity. there is a faq section I believe on the site stating if you want more beads how much more to add versus the required measurement.

Trkdrvremt 07-11-2011 04:17 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jesseboston81 (Post 1332225)
What? You want to keep about half the bag dry no matter what so that the beads can absorb excess humidity from the air.

The only problem with putting more beads in than the calculated "correct" amount is that they take up room that could be occupied by smokes! Having more beads than the "correct" amount will help compensate for swings in humidity (such as when you open the humidor).


Just letting him know not to soak the bag. I have heard of people doing that before...... But this is a much better explanation then I gave....lol

Trkdrvremt 07-11-2011 04:20 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoreyD (Post 1332294)
I and some others have put more beads than required in for the shilala beads but in no way do you add water on the beads, If I need to raise the humidity I put a 1/2 cup measure cup of distilled water in the cooler and slowly raise the humidity. there is a faq section I believe on the site stating if you want more beads how much more to add versus the required measurement.

That is new to me.... I don't know if that's a common practice or just Shilala's instructions. I mist my beads (different brand).... Am I doing it wrong?

CoreyD 07-11-2011 06:06 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
I believe the HCM Beads melt upon water but there are beads out there you add water to

pnoon 07-11-2011 06:10 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoreyD (Post 1332592)
I believe the HCM Beads melt upon water but there are beads out there you add water to

Where did you hear this?

CigarNut 07-11-2011 08:46 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trkdrvremt (Post 1332439)
That is new to me.... I don't know if that's a common practice or just Shilala's instructions. I mist my beads (different brand).... Am I doing it wrong?

You can mist HF and similar beads. You do not mist Shilala HCM beads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoreyD (Post 1332592)
I believe the HCM Beads melt upon water but there are beads out there you add water to

Please be careful when making these kinds of statements as it is not true.

The HCM beads do not melt when wet. They get hot. This is NOT a chemical reaction but rather due to the friction of the water racing through thousands of tiny pores in the beads. If you should get your beads wet the worse thing that is likely to happen is that seal on the bag is likely to break and leak the beads out of the bag; the bags are sealed using heat.

This is all spelled out clearly on the website, in the instructions included with the beads and in a number of posts here and on other sites.

OLS 07-12-2011 02:35 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Waxing moon humidors are not expensive for what you are getting. I know people that have spent hundreds of dollars
on crappy humidors...they either break, won't hold a steady RH, get outgrown. If they had bought the quality box from
the start they would have a nice humidor. Mine is really big and I did not feel it was priced all that high. PLUS, don't
forget, most aficionados in the kneaux use coolers to bulk store their smokes and use humidors for their smoking stash.
You can get a small Waxing moon humidor made that will hold a few week's supply and not spend all that much at all.
I am not going to say they are CHEAP, but they don't break, warp, leak, or look cheap. The reason they call it a
desktop is because a good one blends in easily on a desktop. Not a giant station wagon of a box. That's the job of
your cooler. dos centavos.

OLS 07-12-2011 02:45 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
The thing that used to make me the maddest out of all the bonehead threads on cigar forums were where people ordered
a 35 dollar humidor and then complained that the lid fell off. Or that it was a POS. Or that it looked better in the
pictures....SOMETHING. I know that starting out it seems a waste to buy something that costs you your first
4-8 boxes of cigars worth of fundage. But man, it's nice to look in your humidor and see a light sheen of real plume that
is created by your cigars being PERFECTLY cared for and super-stable. Elie Bleu humidors where you get a tiny
desktop for 3000 dollars, now THAT'S too expensive. You can do much better for MUCH less. But you know what?
In the end no one is gonna care which box you get, as long as you are happy and don't photograph it empty.

CigarNut 07-12-2011 06:55 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
My point was that when you are new to cigars it can be overwhelming to spend money on cigars, lighters, cutters, humidification along with an expensive desktop humidor. If you have the money to do it all, great, I did not, so I bought an inexpensive but decent humidor. It seals pretty well and I like it -- it does the job.

Maybe it does cost more in the long run to do it this way, but for me managing my cash-flow has to be the priority.

One day I would like to have a Waxing Moon humi but it's likely to be bit of a wait for me...

MrOneEyedBoh 07-12-2011 08:51 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
The dome is 170 bucks. That isn't real cheap but chap amongst the custom ones. None the less I have this one that I'd like to get rid of now. My lid hasn't had any issues since I've been using it.

OLS 07-13-2011 10:36 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Don't worry, Michael, I was directing my response to the original poster, not you. I understand that sometimes
it's economics over sensibility. Most times, actually.

CigarNut 07-13-2011 11:16 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS (Post 1334912)
Don't worry, Michael, I was directing my response to the original poster, not you. I understand that sometimes
it's economics over sensibility. Most times, actually.

No problem! To easy to get lost in these threads...

shilala 07-13-2011 11:35 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
I make all kinds of pretty desktop boxes, and I don't even have my own. I use the winador with drawers that's beside my desk. I don't even like it.
Behind me sits an ebony and zebrawood box I made awhile ago. It's got a bunch of drawers and it was purposed for dry boxing. I gave it to Lisa cause she wanted it. She took my $35 Savoy off of me, too. So I'm shooting for a 15ct. Cigar Caddy desktop humi now. :D
If I were to make a suggestion, it'd run along Brad's line of thinking. Use Tupperware and coolers and save up for a top quality heirloom piece. If you ever decide it's not for you anymore, it'll always retain it's value. That's not the case with cheap humidors, as has been evidenced here. They're cheap humidors. There's a reason they're called that. I've had one or two of my own and fixed many of them.
It's a tough call. Good luck, brother!!!

Winador
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...a/8f0767dc.jpg

Savoy
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...a/61a0fd28.jpg

Zebrawood and ebony drybox
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...a/0ce2c812.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...a/5908e18b.jpg

Stogie ZM 07-13-2011 04:11 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Hey Jon,

First, where are you planning on putting it? Desktop? Do you want it to be a feature piece or maybe something more like a commercial?

If you want a feature piece, I would go for the Bally Big, 200 count external hygrometer, clear top (http://www.cigarwarehouse.com/product_p/bally%20big.htm)

If you don't mind going a little bigger, I would definitely go for the AV-600. This would need a place of its own in your house. (I just got one for my place) 600 count, external hygrometer, multi-level trays (http://www.cigarwarehouse.com/product_p/av-600.htm)

For humidifiers, I would definitely go with a Paradigm. It's a little more expensive than your average humidifier, but it will last up to 3 months keeping the RH at 70% and if there is ever a problem with it the manufacturer offers a lifetime warranty. There are several sizes you can choose from so you can fit your humidor with it. (http://www.cigarwarehouse.com/Search...asp?Search=psh)

Hygrometer: Definitely go for a digital, any will do. I just find it easier to read and a bit more accurate than any analog. (http://www.cigarwarehouse.com/Search...Search=digital)

I hope this helps!

-Stogie-

CigarWarehouse.com
All for Cigar Accessories

Steve 07-13-2011 04:19 PM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
The most important thing to remember is, be sure to post a picture of your new humi once you get it, but before you put any cigars in it!

Stogie ZM 07-14-2011 08:19 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
1 Attachment(s)
Here's my humidor.


CigarWarehouse.com

T.G 07-14-2011 08:33 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stogie ZM (Post 1335224)
...<whole lot of links back to my website>...


Nice humidor Stogie, but please don't post sales links in the general threads.

From the rules:
Quote:

If you are a retailer/distributor of cigars or cigar related items, please do not advertise your items in rooms other than the retailer room. Posts/Threads will be promptly removed if violated.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/announcement.php?f=5

Stogie ZM 07-14-2011 08:40 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
I apologize. I figured since I use these items myself, I could at least make the recommendation and show him what I've found, as a customer not as a retailer.

-Stogie-
CigarWarehouse.com

pnoon 07-14-2011 09:48 AM

Re: Need help with a Humidor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1335958)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stogie ZM (Post 1335224)
...<whole lot of links back to my website>...


Nice humidor Stogie, but please don't post sales links in the general threads.

From the rules:
Quote:

If you are a retailer/distributor of cigars or cigar related items, please do not advertise your items in rooms other than the retailer room. Posts/Threads will be promptly removed if violated.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/announcement.php?f=5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stogie ZM (Post 1335963)
I apologize. I figured since I use these items myself, I could at least make the recommendation and show him what I've found, as a customer not as a retailer.

-Stogie-
CigarWarehouse.com

Adam (T.G) is correct.
As a vendor/retailer, you can put a link to your business in your sig line.
Recommendations can be a bit of a grey area. You are certainly free to post your opinions on product/cigars. But using those opinions to promote sales is what is frowned upon (and should be posted only in the Retailer forum.

I hope this is clear. If not, feel free to PM me with any questions.


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