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C1garfan 04-14-2011 07:27 PM

Viaje Zombie
 
From Andres Facebook page-

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Bill86 04-14-2011 07:37 PM

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I'm intrigued......

http://thecigarfeed.com/?p=5847

Triple capped at both ends :confused:

Smaller size too 4 3/4 x 52.....at $10.50 a piece....eh If I could score 2-3 of these to try I'd be down for that but that's about it. Had no interest in the MOAB or WMDs. Although after you cut the cap you're looking at a 4 1/4 perfecto for $10.50....brutal.

I'm actually quite concerned now with these past 5-6 Viaje releases coming out so soon. They might be going the way of Tatuaje. This might help me continue to swear off NC's. :tu

Cornrow_Wallis 04-14-2011 07:43 PM

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I feel the urge to get some of these, but I think I'm going to have to skip out this time. I got a fiver of wmd and moab but looking back I think I would have skipped them and gone with something in a vitola I actually like. Not trying to hate on Viaje, but for the money, I'd like to see a little more cigar.

Bill86 04-14-2011 07:45 PM

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Kinda how I felt Rob, I do like the perfecto and the DES was a very decent stick. Kinda sucking though the price points are staying the same and the vitolas are getting smaller and smaller. Larger RG's too :td

C1garfan 04-14-2011 08:48 PM

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I think a lot of the cost has to do with the shape. Difficult shapes are usually more expensive. Like you said, this cigar has triple caps on both ends.

Bill86 04-14-2011 08:56 PM

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Yeah, I just wish it was the same size as the DES (5 3/4 x 52). That's the thing that has me intrigued (the caps at both ends). I could see buying 2 of them and smoking them at different ends. Just for kicks, sh!ts and giggles see if there is any noticeable difference.

Brutus2600 04-14-2011 09:53 PM

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If I could get one I'd try it...but I probably won't bust my tail to get these.

They sound interesting though!

neoflex 04-14-2011 10:05 PM

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Reminds me of this image that I saw posted on Facebook with Viaje tagged but it was quickly untagged by what I'm guessing was Andre and kind of how I am starting to feel about Viaje. I copied and pasted the text in the photo description in the image.
http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/q...xrnb/Funny.jpg

Brutus2600 04-14-2011 10:07 PM

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hahaha...yeah

Bill86 04-14-2011 10:08 PM

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:r :r :r I must admit that is funny. I never liked the S&B, any of them.

jsnake 04-15-2011 12:38 AM

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I love Viaje Cigars but getting tired of having to line up like it is Black Friday to beat everyone to them.

thecatch83 04-15-2011 01:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnake (Post 1236704)
I love Viaje Cigars but getting tired of having to line up like it is Black Friday to beat everyone to them.

I guess they wouldn't be considered LE sticks if you could just order them off of every cigar site, but you make a very good point. I personally don't have a problem with the "boutique" company's offering LE cigars, what gets me is the shadow games and smoke and mirrors behind it all. And in regards to paying 10 bucks for a smaller cigar, you could always throw down $20 a stick for the glorified 64th anny Smoke Inn Padron SI-15, 6 x 60 and choke yourself to death :sh

Bill86 04-15-2011 01:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnake (Post 1236704)
I love Viaje Cigars but getting tired of having to line up like it is Black Friday to beat everyone to them.

Agreed, this 2000 cigars is completely bullsh!t. I passed on the WLP, WLP Candela, WMB, MOAB, Exclusivo short and Tower 45th. This one I'll mostly likely make a half a$$ attempt to score a couple. If not meh it'll be 7th Viaje I've passed on already this year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecatch83 (Post 1236707)
I guess they wouldn't be considered LE sticks if you could just order them off of every cigar site, but you make a very good point. I personally don't have a problem with the "boutique" company's offering LE cigars, what gets me is the shadow games and smoke and mirrors behind it all. And in regards to paying 10 bucks for a smaller cigar, you could always throw down $20 a stick for the glorified 64th anny Smoke Inn Padron SI-15, 6 x 60 and choke yourself to death :sh

I'm surprised they are only $20 a piece. As far as the LE thing, Viaje seems to be jumping on the Tatuaje "put out as many as you can trying to make a fast buck" bandwagon. I guess Illusione is the only one that still has some hope?

I'm really not complaining though, it seems most NC cigars are going this route and it just makes it much easier for me to not buy any. I can walk into cigar shops and not drop $50-$100. Browse the internet and see many cigar ads and not spend a dime. Thanks guys :tu

Now I'm off to go punch an ever so tasty $4 SCdlH El Principe, or maybe I'll spring for the HUCM for $4.50. Boli RC's for $6.00 a pop, YES PLEASE! Ah life is good.

maninblack 04-15-2011 07:32 AM

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He needs to take marketing tips from Pete Johnson. genius.

pektel 04-15-2011 08:13 AM

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I am not a Tatuaje whore, but I do love me some Viajes. And these are going to be at an event in MN? I'm so there...

pektel 04-15-2011 08:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1236722)
I'm really not complaining though, it seems most NC cigars are going this route and it just makes it much easier for me to not buy any. I can walk into cigar shops and not drop $50-$100. Browse the internet and see many cigar ads and not spend a dime. Thanks guys :tu

Now I'm off to go punch an ever so tasty $4 SCdlH El Principe, or maybe I'll spring for the HUCM for $4.50. Boli RC's for $6.00 a pop, YES PLEASE! Ah life is good.

I hear this. I'm rarely tempted by NC's anymore. But if I want a strong stick, I reach for a viaje.

Trent0341 04-15-2011 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thecatch83 (Post 1236707)
I guess they wouldn't be considered LE sticks if you could just order them off of every cigar site, but you make a very good point. I personally don't have a problem with the "boutique" company's offering LE cigars, what gets me is the shadow games and smoke and mirrors behind it all. And in regards to paying 10 bucks for a smaller cigar, you could always throw down $20 a stick for the glorified 64th anny Smoke Inn Padron SI-15, 6 x 60 and choke yourself to death :sh


Seriously... whatever happened to normal size smokes. They all seem to be Nub size or some kind of 6x60 baseball bat. I don't mind the marketing concepts to a point but Tatuaje and Viaje seem out of control. I think some of their concepts are pretty cool but releasing in quantities of 2000 and I have to spend $200+ before I can even try one = no thanks.

I have said for a long time that NC had caught up to CC taste wise but lately it seems like NC are more focused on marketing than the actual cigar. As Bill pointed out I can smoke a PSD No. 4 for $8-$9. It makes it harder to justify setting the alarm on my phone so I can be one of the 30 people that get a box of cigars they've never tried.


Bottom line is brands like Viaje and Tatuaje are driving me off before I ever really got a chance to make up my mind about them. I know some of you are into these and I hope you continue to enjoy them but more and more they seem like something I'm not even going to bother with.

elderboy02 04-15-2011 09:55 AM

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Man, I love reading every single day people constantly complaining about how many new NC's are coming out [/sarcasm off]

If you don't want all these new cigars, don't buy them.

I like having the option to not smoke the same cigar every day. Variety is the spice of life :2

mariogolbee 04-15-2011 09:59 AM

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C1garfan, thank you for posting this information. I might have never known. The WMD is one of the best sticks I've had in a while. If this is better than the WMD, and I can get some, I'll be more than happy to.

dannysguitar 04-15-2011 10:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1236920)
Man, I love reading every single day people constantly complaining about how many new NC's are coming out [/sarcasm off]

If you don't want all these new cigars, don't buy them.

I like having the option to not smoke the same cigar every day. Variety is the spice of life :2

:tpd:

pektel 04-15-2011 10:18 AM

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I think it's gonna be fun to actually go to one of these events. I've never been to one before.

srduggins 04-15-2011 10:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1236507)
Triple capped at both ends :confused:

That way you can cut it in half to get two smokes for the price of one. Saves on the cigar tax that way.

Heard the Zombies were due to the nuclear fall out from the WMD. Sounds too much like the Japan nuclear reactor disaster to suit me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1236942)
I think it's gonna be fun to actually go to one of these events. I've never been to one before.

It should be a blast. Have a great time.

lilwing88 04-15-2011 12:07 PM

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I was pretty disappointed by the S&B WMD. So, I'm not gonna be seeking out one of these. But I will spread the word for those who will....

neoflex 04-16-2011 09:37 AM

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It's funny because we were discussing LEs the other night at the lounge and we all agreed that only a handful of guys can pull off selling such small sticks for $10+. I am not seeking this new LE out but if they happen to pop up on the WTS thread at a reasonable price I can not make any promises.:r It's kind of how I feel about the LEs lately. I was always chasing the latest and greatest from Pete down but sadly they started coming out faster than my cigar budget and storage capacity could handle. Guys pointed out that you don't get to try the LEs before snagging a box but the flip side of that is if they are not your cup of tea after you do get to smoke one, it usually is not too difficult to unload them should you need to as the demand is usually always there so it's not like you will be stuck with them. I do wish that Pete and Andre would cut back on the frequency in which they release LEs simply so the guys who like to seek them out and obtain them don't need to pick and choose which they want because the budget tends to run out before the next one is released. I do wish I jumped on the Black Petite Lancero as I got to try one and I thought it was amazing but after the run of LEs that were released at the time by the time that was coming out my budget was dry. Now I am stuck trying to score some with zero luck. Luckily this is one that is supposed to become a regular release but does go to show that it sucks that we have to now pick and choose just because of the frequency in which these LEs are being released.

kelmac07 04-16-2011 09:58 AM

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While I'm a huge fan of Viaje cigars (just not the Exclusivo line)...but enough is enough. $ 10 a stick for these miniature sticks??? Come on man!! :td :td

whodeeni 04-16-2011 10:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1237609)
While I'm a huge fan of Viaje cigars (just not the Exclusivo line)...but enough is enough. $ 10 a stick for these miniature sticks??? Come on man!! :td :td


Ummmmm mac... 4.5 x 52 isn't exactly miniature to me... that's almost your
ideal size isn't it?:r

On another note, I wish I could go to the even to meet Arsenio Ramos... that
guy is the Man!

kelmac07 04-16-2011 10:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by whodeeni (Post 1237611)
Ummmmm mac... 4.5 x 52 isn't exactly miniature to me... that's almost your ideal size isn't it!

Not even close. $ 10.50 for a stick that is ALMOST a robusto???

C1garfan 04-16-2011 10:52 AM

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From what I understand from the guys in MN these are 4.75 X 52 not 4.5. The shape (double triple caps) is a very difficult shape to roll which is why they are so expensive. The packaging is supposed to be top notch as well. We will have to wait and see.

ajacobs 04-16-2011 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C1garfan (Post 1237640)
From what I understand from the guys in MN these are 4.75 X 52 not 4.5. The shape (double triple caps) is a very difficult shape to roll which is why they are so expensive. The packaging is supposed to be top notch as well. We will have to wait and see.

The shape may be difficult but I would like to see where it offers some discernible advantage.

C1garfan 04-16-2011 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ajacobs (Post 1237662)
The shape may be difficult but I would like to see where it offers some discernible advantage.

What is the advantage of Tat Anarchy curly head? Double triple caps have never been done before. I for one am very curious.

ajacobs 04-16-2011 11:44 AM

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Oh, you won't catch me singing the advantages of pig tails either. I am also not knocking this cigar, maybe it is worth 10 bucks a piece but that should be based on flavor not gimmick and I feel the same way about all cigars. I am impressed by quality not novelty and I am not really interested in paying extra for packaging or gimmicks.

I know that may put me in the minority as much about cigars is steeped in tradition, image etc - it is just not something I buy into.

ajacobs 04-16-2011 11:46 AM

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By the way the 5 vegas relic is capped at both ends (although I doubt it is a tripple cap) - I don't care for the 5 vegas line so I haven't tried them.

C1garfan 04-16-2011 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ajacobs (Post 1237674)
By the way the 5 vegas relic is capped at both ends (although I doubt it is a tripple cap) - I don't care for the 5 vegas line so I haven't tried them.

I meant to say the Relic is perfecto shaped, this cigar is reported to be round.

pektel 04-16-2011 11:50 AM

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I was just looking at the 5 Vegas relic this morning (got the ci catalog yesterday) and thought about buying a box. But only because I thought the box was cool.
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whodeeni 04-16-2011 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1237676)
I was just looking at the 5 Vegas relic this morning (got the ci catalog yesterday) and thought about buying a box. But only because I thought the box was cool.
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Peter you might Call up CI and see if they can find you an
empty 5vegas relic box and save yourself the coin!:tu

pektel 04-16-2011 12:25 PM

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That ain't a half bad idea! But it was just a fleeting urge. It passed rather quickly.
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Bill86 04-16-2011 05:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1237614)
Not even close. $ 10.50 for a stick that is ALMOST a robusto???

I'm with Mac, It's a perfecto you're losing 1/2 inch on the SoB as soon as you clip the end. It's a 4 1/4 x 52 as far as I'm concerned. Not to mention the first 1/4 - 1/2 of that you smoke is nearly nothing.

Definitely disappointing as far as Price-cigar ratio.

thecatch83 04-16-2011 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1237614)
Not even close. $ 10.50 for a stick that is ALMOST a robusto???

I see your point, but what's the difference between paying $10 for a smaller vitola, and paying $20 for the new SI 15 Padron 6 x 60? I will pay 10 bucks all day for a quality smoke regardless of size!

:2

Bill86 04-16-2011 06:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thecatch83 (Post 1237824)
I see your point, but what's the difference between paying $10 for a smaller vitola, and paying $20 for the new SI 15 Padron 6 x 60? I will pay 10 bucks all day for a quality smoke regardless of size!

:2

Because no one would pay the $20 for a 60x6. That and Padrons are way overpriced.

Tatuaje = MASS LE releases
Viaje LATELY = tons of smaller huge RG cigars for too high or a price.

Either way you lose they win. Gotta get off that NC boat and over to the darkside!

688sonarmen 04-16-2011 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1237827)
Because no one would pay the $20 for a 60x6. That and Padrons are way overpriced.

Tatuaje = MASS LE releases
Viaje LATELY = tons of smaller huge RG cigars for too high or a price.

Either way you lose they win. Gotta get off that NC boat and over to the darkside!

:tpd: 2nd time today, I like the way you think:tu

Bill86 04-16-2011 06:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 688sonarmen (Post 1237828)
:tpd: 2nd time today, I like the way you think:tu

It's not me it's all the booze I just drank talking (the real me).

But right on, I think I speak the truth :al....I THINK.....

:al :al

688sonarmen 04-16-2011 06:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1237831)
It's not me it's all the booze I just drank talking (the real me).

But right on, I think I speak the truth :al....I THINK.....

:al :al

:r

kelmac07 04-16-2011 06:28 PM

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While I'm not going to the darkside. I will continue to torch those lovely dark & yummy maduros. I am really a huge fan of Viaje and their sticks, I have just finally said enough is enough with all the limited edition, small batch hunting. Too many great sticks out there at a great price to play the "Hunt the LE game". :2

big a 04-16-2011 06:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1237843)
While I'm not going to the darkside. I will continue to torch those lovely dark & yummy maduros. I am really a huge fan of Viaje and their sticks, I have just finally said enough is enough with all the limited edition, small batch hunting. Too many great sticks out there at a great price to play the "Hunt the LE game". :2

:tpd: It drives me crazy when I finally get my hands on a LE that really enjoy just to know chances of getting more is slim to none.

neoflex 04-16-2011 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big a (Post 1237856)
:tpd: It drives me crazy when I finally get my hands on a LE that really enjoy just to know chances of getting more is slim to none.

I know that feeling or when you are down to your final few and than your stuck rationing them out. No Bueno.:D

pektel 04-16-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1237843)
While I'm not going to the darkside. I will continue to torch those lovely dark & yummy maduros. I am really a huge fan of Viaje and their sticks, I have just finally said enough is enough with all the limited edition, small batch hunting. Too many great sticks out there at a great price to play the "Hunt the LE game". :2

See, I amstarting to get a little collection of cc's. But most if not all of my nc's are full flavored maddies. Haven't found anything in the cc world that compares to them. I can live without most of the non maduro nc's though. Not saying I won't smoke them, but I'm not buying boxes of them either.
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thecatch83 04-17-2011 07:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1237827)
Because no one would pay the $20 for a 60x6. That and Padrons are way overpriced.

Tatuaje = MASS LE releases
Viaje LATELY = tons of smaller huge RG cigars for too high or a price.

Either way you lose they win. Gotta get off that NC boat and over to the darkside!

I live in Japan, 15 miles from Tokyo.....I can jump on the train to the local Le Connaisseur and smoke Davidoffs and Behike's any time I want :sh I love the darkside, but I think the quality of NC sticks has taken tremendous strides in recent years! What's the impetus behind absolutes, and picking one type of cigar to enjoy exclusively? Variety is the spice of life, and in regards to fine cigars, this holds true IMO.

mariogolbee 04-19-2011 01:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1237827)
Because no one would pay the $20 for a 60x6. That and Padrons are way overpriced.

Tatuaje = MASS LE releases
Viaje LATELY = tons of smaller huge RG cigars for too high or a price.

Either way you lose they win. Gotta get off that NC boat and over to the darkside!

Or, whatever happened to "smoke what you like?" If you don't want these, you don't have to buy them. If you have any actual content to contribute to this discussion, I'd like to read it. Otherwise, several posts of complaints is rather boorish IMO.
Quote:

Originally Posted by thecatch83 (Post 1238058)
I live in Japan, 15 miles from Tokyo.....I can jump on the train to the local Le Connaisseur and smoke Davidoffs and Behike's any time I want :sh I love the darkside, but I think the quality of NC sticks has taken tremendous strides in recent years! What's the impetus behind absolutes, and picking one type of cigar to enjoy exclusively? Variety is the spice of life, and in regards to fine cigars, this holds true IMO.

:tu agreed.

And keeping ever so loosely with the theme of this thread (or perhaps it relates in more than just name) I give you a video that's stuck "in [my] head." You can skip the ads in like 4 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts

pektel 04-19-2011 03:10 PM

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Just found out a good buddy is coming to visit this weekend. That means no event for me. :( But on the good side, I get to spend time with a great friend. :)

Brooks W 04-19-2011 03:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1240000)
Just found out a good buddy is coming to visit this weekend. That means no event for me. :( But on the good side, I get to spend time with a great friend. :)

Dude, you can take him by the shop "on the way" to somewhere else...

"I just need to stop by here for a second"... :)


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