Tatuaje Saints & Sinners club
 

Just got an e-mail from Tatuaje's Saints & Sinners Club this afternoon.

Concept (simplified and described by me): Join for a certain amount of $ and get access to discounts on LE cigars & swag that others cannot.

Who is going to be joining/passing?

Thoughts on Pete's concept for the club?

M

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I got the email too, I've been excited for this. I'll be joining and think it's a good idea for those who really love Pete's stuff.

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Sorry, I'll take Tats whenever I can get them, but creating a new 'class' of cigar smoker goes against everything a BOTL should stand for.

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I got the e-mail but your really not getting much for the $150 fee to play. So you pay $150 to get discounts/access to some LEs, you get to watch videos of Pete and have access to his message board. I like Pete's cigars but that is kind of pricey for what you get in return. It's nice that a percentage goes to charity but for that price I would want more in return. Hell throw me a T-shirt or two and maybe some other BS swag but you don't even get that. Hey if you pay me $150 I will give you access to buy more of my stuff just isn't working for me in this case.

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$150 for a few discounts? :lr

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I will be joining. On another forum, he said you get a nice sampler when you join the club.

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Could be! I don't know. It wasn't mentioned in the e-mail.

M

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I wonder if retailers can buy in and then pass those savings onto buyers? That would be a way to work around the no discounting Tatuaje products for merchants.

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Pass.

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im contemplating joining as well, but some bs swag thrown around would help me make a decision

stearns

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You? Pass? OMFG! What is the world coming to?

http://crazygonutz.com/covey/homeAlone.jpg

Pete was saving the membership card with ID #000001 just for you D.

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Someone questioned if the discount was on actual cigars on another board. Thoughts? Lines read this:
"Exclusive, one-off products available only to members (select products may not be available for purchase through the S&S webstore)"
&
"First looks at new cigar blends, swag, as well as insider info on Tatuaje and other Pete Johnson brands"

No mention of actual discount on cigars. Just 'first looks'?

Mind you, I'm not any more familiar with it than anyone else...I just posted to see what the interest in something like this club is.

M

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100 Percent Agreed!

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Maybe the 'members only' mentality is what they're talking about? :sh

Kind of country club-ish? :sh

I have no opinion on the matter one way or another at this point, I'm just seeing which way the wind is blowing on this new concept.

M

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I never got the email :-( but does sound steep, for a early inside look at whats coming out, and maybe get a few LEs, but i do like how you guys said part goes to charity, but what charity and if you really wanted to why not just donate the $150 yourself straight to the charity...

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Being a BOTL has nothing to do with it.
Pete is a businessman and wants your $$$. Pure and simple. He is perpetuating, thru creative marketing, an exclusivity that many want to be a part of. He is very successful at it.
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Now I can get my Johnson's club and my Thompson's club all at one low, low price.
How very convenient.
Somehow I sense a John Thomas joke on the horizon. I will now set the official clock.

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I was really interested when he talked about this on some video, about getting a nice sampler of unreleased products, having access to single farm puros...cool stuff like that. The email they sent out this afternoon didn't sound like it was much more than access, discounts, and maybe a few freebies thrown my way. Not sure it's worth $150, but I'll keep watching to see what else might be included with membership. I can't imagine it's as dinky as it sounds.

Also, since the $150 is going to charity...is it tax deductable? :p

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Pete - your personal thoughts? (Not what you think others will/should do...just your own ideas)

membership = Good idea?
membership = Bad idea?

M

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I believe it's just part of the fee:
"The knowledge that a portion of your annual membership fee will go to an eclectic mix of charities"

M

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When do I get a decoder ring?

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Can't tell you that until you pass through the initiation rites.

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well it says a portion, that could be $5 of that $150 for all you know...i found my email, was in the trash folder must have deleted it on my phone on accident...

"6. The knowledge that a portion of your annual membership fee will go to an eclectic mix of charities that Pete choses for their commitment to their particular cause."

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TG - Are all your posts going to be :rolleyes:

I need to know because sometimes you're ridiculously valuable in your posts (see: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...hlight=Privada) and sometimes you're just pissin' around.

Should I be reading your comments or is this a joke one for ya? (I don't care either way...I'm just curious for the sake of my own reading time)

M

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That's a good point because many would see it that way but techinically it's not YOUR name giving it to charity. I know you were probably being sarcastic about it but in reality Tatuaje is the one who gets the credit for the charitable donation.

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There is no way people are going to pay $150 for a CHANCE to buy some cigars...

There will be cigars included, mark my words :)

~brooks

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Another thought I had before I head out for a run...

IF you can afford to smoke Tatuaje (or any other high-$ sticks for that matter) is the $150 that steep of a price tag?

M

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One of the charities is/probably should be titled "The Pete Johnson Sucker Memorial Retirement Fund."
While I dig his cigars, his marketing isn't my cup of tea, and I pass on this type of hucksterism, either First Party or third party.

This Way to the Egress!

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That describes a ton of the people in the Asylum. :r


I love Tat's but there is a point when marketing turns into masturbation.
:2

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You should never include children in it, though, because it is wrong.

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This is about Tatuaje dammit! Don't you get it? You shouldn't just be reading it, you should be memorizing it!

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Gotcha! ;)

M

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Can someone post the email itself?

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We apologize for the delay, but we are finally here to unveil the details of the Saints & Sinners club.

The Saints & Sinners Club is an exclusive members only club and for an annual registration fee of $150, each member will receive:

1. Exclusive, one-off products available only to members (select products may not be available for purchase through the S&S webstore).
2. Everyday Tatuaje branded merchandise at the Saints & Sinners club rate.
3. Access to members-only forums, where you can discuss the finer points of cigars, smoking accessories, spirits, and anything else associated with the Saints & Sinners lifestyle
4. Access to the Pete Johnson video blog. Here, Pete will update members on everything PJHC. Watch Pete as he travels around the world, visiting his production facility in Nicaragua, engages fans on cigar tours, and dishes on anything else he feels his Saints & Sinners family should know about.
5. First looks at new cigar blends, swag, as well as insider info on Tatuaje and other Pete Johnson brands.
6. The knowledge that a portion of your annual membership fee will go to an eclectic mix of charities that Pete choses for their commitment to their particular cause.

Visit the site and become one of the first granted entrance to this distinguished organization.

With the extremely limited nature of the products we are producing for each membership kit, we need to get an idea of how many people plan on joining the club so we can begin producing the qtys necessary to begin shipping shortly after launching the club.

To opt in, please click HERE and you will be directed to a new sign up page!

If you no longer wish to receive information leading up to the launch of the club please unsubscribe by clicking the button below.

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It was mentioned previously that it includes 15 cigars. Part of the reason for the delay was setting up a Florida corporation where there is no tobacco tax for shipping those cigars. Admittedly, the email is vague.

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Somebody beat me to it.

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Thanks for posting the info, Aaron.

If nothing else, 15 Tatuaje-ish cigars could be worth $150- if you enjoy their line up.

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ajacobs & srduggins - How dare you?!

Both banned from the club before it even officially begins for sharing information! :D

M

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I don't see in post #34 where it mentions 15 cigars, is it somewhere else you could link?

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If there is no more included in it than discounts and access to LEs and the other items mentioned in the e-mail than $150 is steep in my opinion. If the membership includes some swag and maybe an exclusive sampler of sticks than no it's not too off the wall but if I am going to pay $150 I would like to get more in return than the promise of be able to buy more of Petes stuff even if it's discounted. The way the e-mail went out it makes it almost sound like the Sams Club or Costco of Tatuaje. I was kind of excited to see what the Saints and Sinners would be but after this mornings e-mail I was quickly disappointed from how it initially sounded in the rumblings in the past months. Initially I had heard if you were a member you would be sent test blends, samples of up and coming sticks, swag etc.

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I got the email, but I am not joining if all you get is a discount and some swag, if there is a sampler involved maybe.

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:tpd: I agree totally and would probably pull the trigger if this were the case. The e-mail doesn't mention anything of the sort though other than more or less donating your money.

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In all seriousness...

The first time I heard about this was back in November directly from Pete (apparently I was the only person there who had never heard of this project) and Pete said he was doing it for the people who like these kinds of things. Apparently, Pete is as much a collector as he is a smoker and he said he loves going after the HTF and exclusive **** and he knows that there are other people like this too, so he wanted to cater to them a bit.

He did say there will be some exclusive stuff and even some older stuff.

Is he going to make money on it? Sure. It is his job after all. But through that, Pete is just a regular guy who loves cigars like the rest of us, he just happens to make them also.

Does he plan on bilking people or taking advantage of them? It didn't sound that way. Really sounded like a membership fee to get access to cigars that won't see general release, but the sale prices will be in line with his other MSRPs.

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Straight from Pete (and the person working with Pete on the project):

"The pack has changed slightly over the last few weeks but will still include the same quantity that was originally mentioned." (i.e. 15 cigars)...

When someone asked "Im hoping it was the regular production stuff that was x-ed and the exclusive stuff stayed"

Pete said:

"I just changed a few sizes. The mix of reg and exclusive is still the same. "

Hope that helps!

~brooks

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I'm fairly certain I can afford smoking only high end cigars out there, but that dont mean I'll just fork over $150.00 for belly button lint.

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Thanks!
Unless it is actually stated on the initial sign up page on the 1st than I will take a pass on it as if it's not in writing than technically they don't need to send chit. I'm hoping what you posted does end up coming to fruition as I would probably jump on it. Even if I never take advantage of the discounts at least at the end of the day I will feel like I actually paid for something.

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This just confirms my opinion of Pete as the Scotty Cameron of cigar retailers. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like a limited edition Tatuaje headcov--um, cutter for $400 and available exclusively to club members.
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If there are 10 cigars for my $150 I will be in (I pretty much just did that for a box of La Verite anyway).

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Fixed that.........and that's exactly why I don't shop in Australia.

For me, bad idea. For you, only you can aswer that?

Now if Pete's cigars had that "sweet spot" that Sam Leccia/Nub claims to have, you might get me thinking. :rolleyes:
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