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HK3- 11-15-2008 09:26 AM

Flavor Profiles
 
I have been wondering for awhile now how many different flavor profiles can be found in cigars. And I dont mean the strawberry rockets from the local gas station either. Let's see if we can get a list going of familiar tastes that can be found in cigars.

1.) Woody
2.) Earthy
3.) Cedary
4.) Floral
5.)

Mr.Maduro 11-15-2008 09:53 AM

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This should help....

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...stingwheel.gif

ucla695 11-15-2008 09:59 AM

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:tpd: Great tasting wheel!

groogs 11-15-2008 10:03 AM

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I think the wheel pretty well covers it.

SmokinApe 11-15-2008 10:18 AM

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Looks like the wheel put a stop to this thread...

HK3- 11-15-2008 10:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 69986)


Well, that answers my question. Thanks Patrick. :salute:

SmokinApe 11-15-2008 10:49 AM

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What is the purpose of have the two sides different colors?

feznuk 11-15-2008 11:00 AM

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Nice! Now, as a noob, I'd be interested in seeing cigars mapped to the wheel. For instance, I'm a fan of the sweet, caramel and creamy wedges. It would be cool to look at the wheel and be able to pick out a couple cigars that fall into those areas.

I'm sure something like this exists somewhere. Anybody know of a good tool that can be used to map flavor preferences to cigars?

Lee 11-15-2008 11:37 AM

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I've always had trouble identifying flavors in a cigar. I printed this out to use the next time I try a new cigar. This is a great chart. :ss

HK3- 11-15-2008 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 70040)
What is the purpose of have the two sides different colors?

I think they are opposite sides of the spectrum. :confused:

nozero 11-15-2008 12:01 PM

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Great Thread!

I found this and some other interesting tidbits here.

Quote:

Factors affecting taste perception

Many factors affect taste perception, including:
  • Aging
  • Color/vision impairments
  • Hormonal influences
  • Genetic variations; see Phenylthiocarbamide
  • Oral temperature
  • Drugs and chemicals
  • Natural Substances (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_fruit)
  • CNS Tumors (esp. Temporal lobe lesions) and other neurological causes
  • Plugged noses
  • Zinc deficiency

It is also important to consider that flavor is the overall, total sensation induced during mastication (e.g. taste, touch, pain and smell). Smell (olfactory stimulation) plays a major role in flavor perception.
Zinc eh? Gotta go take a multivitamin...

That tastes like Umami.
:)

HK3- 11-15-2008 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nozero (Post 70143)
Great Thread!

I found this and some other interesting tidbits here.



Zinc eh? Gotta go take a multivitamin...
:)


Umami! :D

shilala 11-15-2008 12:09 PM

Re: Flavor Profiles
 
The wheel isn't very complete.
How about:
Grass
Burning Tire
Green Spray Paint
Brush Fire
Poop

The Wheel guy must be an eternal optomist. :D

HK3- 11-15-2008 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 70152)
The wheel isn't very complete.
How about:
Grass
Burning Tire
Green Spray Paint
Brush Fire
Poop

The Wheel guy must be an eternal optomist. :D


Poop? What about mummy dick? :)

WyoBob 11-15-2008 12:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 70152)
The wheel isn't very complete.
How about:
Grass
Burning Tire
Green Spray Paint
Brush Fire
Poop
:D

Aahhh, Cremosa :D

WyoBob

nozero 11-15-2008 04:14 PM

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What about foot, or toenail or burning toenail?
:pu

brigey57 11-15-2008 04:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 69986)

I think that just about nails it!

Scottw 11-15-2008 04:29 PM

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great wheel. I love sticks with the cocoa, espresso flavor profiles

chippewastud79 11-15-2008 04:29 PM

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What about "No pre-light scent" or "Just harsh"? :D

Mr.Maduro 11-15-2008 06:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinApe (Post 70040)
What is the purpose of have the two sides different colors?

I would think the mild-medium flavors are on the left side (yellow) and the med-full flavors are on the right side. (orange)

troutbreath 11-15-2008 07:15 PM

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Balsa? Really? Was I supposed to be tasting all those airplanes when I was a kid?


I like this wheel, though. It's great to have a list of flavors to call on when trying to do a review. I'll taste something, and if I don't get a clue, they all taste like "tobacco."

TOB9595 11-16-2008 11:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 69986)

Does any one know how this wheel is used?
Tom

Vitis 11-16-2008 11:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TOB9595 (Post 71226)
Does any one know how this wheel is used?
Tom

It helps you narrow down the flavors. Pick the one in the center that best fits the flavor, then go outward and pick the more detailed option if possible.

EX: If you determine its floral, then go outward and decide if you think the flavor is rose, jasmin, balsa or mint.

HTH

~Vitis

SilverFox 01-05-2009 11:59 AM

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Based on my experience with some sticks

The wheel is missing

Bellybutton lint
Vacuum cleaner bags
Dust bunnies

tireiron 01-05-2009 12:26 PM

Re: Flavor Profiles
 
how about....

hints of palio cutter

and

ronson fuel essence

wayner123 01-05-2009 01:20 PM

Re: Flavor Profiles
 
The ones used in wine testing/tasting are great to use as well. Here is one I like to use:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...roma_Wheel.jpg

This one above is big enough to print out.

I have seen many different flavor wheels and even a few specifically for cigars. Maybe we should do a Cigar Asylum wheel??

HK3- 01-06-2009 05:34 PM

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Don't forget Zippo flavor for the true dummies. :D

Mr Edmundo 01-06-2009 05:42 PM

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I've seen "ass" used in a number of reviews.

lightning9191 01-06-2009 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Edmundo (Post 153641)
I've seen "ass" used in a number of reviews.


When we do trained taste panels we usually have a standard we use to identify with each flavor....what would you propose we use as a standard here? Age? Sex? Culture? Or should we leave this up to the individual smoker:D

Mr Edmundo 01-07-2009 08:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lightning9191 (Post 153791)
When we do trained taste panels we usually have a standard we use to identify with each flavor....what would you propose we use as a standard here? Age? Sex? Culture? Or should we leave this up to the individual smoker:D

I'm not the one who could answer this question, since I myself have never used this as a description. But that is a good question. I often wonder how one would know what ass tasted like. But then again, maybe I don't want to know.:D

But on a serious note, I'd be interested to hear more about using standards to identifying flavors. I found that wheel very interesting and useful.

cbsmokin 08-19-2009 01:09 PM

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This one shows more, but maybe it's too complicated.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...1227828324.jpg


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