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Starz26 01-06-2011 07:59 PM

Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Do not think this has been discussed here yet so.....

http://tobaccogrove.com/index.cfm/pa...128#family_128

All info in the link...

688sonarmen 01-06-2011 08:07 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Thanks for the info:tu

big a 01-06-2011 08:09 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Thanks for the heads up. I will try to order some after work if they still have them.

Superbad 01-06-2011 08:32 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
These are being made along side the production sticks to be released at some point in the future. Only difference is the early release and a covered foot.

Brutus2600 01-06-2011 09:17 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
?!?

I love the black label...and I love lanceros...EXCELLENT NEWS.

Thanks :tu

Bill86 01-06-2011 09:24 PM

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I do like the black labels but......For their size they are quite pricey @ $8.52 a piece for a 6x38 stick? No deals on the box prices either, even if you buy 35 sticks!

Brutus2600 01-06-2011 09:29 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
The SODO was what...$11 a stick? Same size.

I'll pay $8.50 for a good lancero.

But yeah, Tatuaje's limited releases are never cheap :(

Good to know that a regular release is on it's way!

elderboy02 01-06-2011 09:31 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
I am glad these will be regular production.

Ranger_B 01-06-2011 09:35 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Well I will try but I never have luck with his special release. Good to know I have a shot a production once it comes out. Never dealt with this company so I just signed up for an account so hopefully I just have to log in tomorrow and get lucky.

smokinpeace 01-07-2011 05:19 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Must..... Not....... Buy....... Must...... wait..... for..... regular release. Not sure if that is gonna happen.

McSmokey 01-07-2011 07:09 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Well I'm gonna have to go to lunch a few minutes early to be ready. Credit Card I am sorry in advance for what I am about to do. Oh, and please don't tell my wife on me. :D

wayner123 01-07-2011 07:12 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superbad (Post 1122433)
These are being made along side the production sticks to be released at some point in the future. Only difference is the early release and a covered foot.

Where did you learn this information?

T.G 01-07-2011 07:27 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
I don't have any idea on the future production scale, if any, of these cigars, but I can tell you why there are only 200 boxes right now...

...That's how many boxes Pepin's box shop made by accident.

When we were down in Nicaragua at the beginning of November on the Drew Estates Cigar Safari, Pete was down at the My Father factory and spending quite a bit of time hanging out with us, at one point he comes over with a big smile on his face and says something like "As of a few minutes ago, it now looks like I'm releasing a Tat Black petite lancero. <big grin> Pepin's box shop made a mistake and made 200 boxes*, and since I hate waste, and I already have the cigars, I'm going to release them."

*: the wrong size or by accident - I forget exactly which Pete said. He didn't want Pepin to have to absorb the cost of the boxes.

elderboy02 01-07-2011 07:31 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1122765)
Where did you learn this information?

Pete Johnson said it yesterday on BOTL

He also said the initial release won't be wet packed because they will be fresh. The regular production ones will be wet packed.

Brooks W 01-07-2011 07:44 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1122787)
Pete Johnson said it yesterday on BOTL

He also said the initial release won't be wet packed because they will be fresh. The regular production ones will be wet packed.

Correct.

wayner123 01-07-2011 09:11 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1122787)
Pete Johnson said it yesterday on BOTL

He also said the initial release won't be wet packed because they will be fresh. The regular production ones will be wet packed.

I find this very interesting given that a couple years ago when the Black CG's came out they were supposed to be a limited release that was not going to be regular production. Not due to the size, but due to the leaf/crop available. It seems that the black series has done so well he "found" more black material.

T.G 01-07-2011 09:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1122919)
I find this very interesting given that a couple years ago when the Black CG's came out they were supposed to be a limited release that was not going to be regular production. Not due to the size, but due to the leaf/crop available. It seems that the black series has done so well he "found" more black material.

I don't recall Pete ever claiming that these or the previous Tat Blacks were from the same crop. Just that the blend is the same.

If Pepin has grown more leaf that is suitable for the cigars, and Pete wants to make them, then what's the big deal? It's just a recurring limited release that changes vitolas over the years when it comes out. Not the first time something like this has been done.

wayner123 01-07-2011 09:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1122959)
I don't recall Pete ever claiming that these or the previous Tat Blacks were from the same crop. Just that the blend is the same.

If Pepin has grown more leaf that is suitable for the cigars, and Pete wants to make them, then what's the big deal? It's just a recurring limited release that changes vitolas over the years when it comes out. Not the first time something like this has been done.

I didn't explain that correctly. I will have to find the discussion, but he claimed that Blacks were going to be his personal stash, then said that they were a one time thing, and now they are going to regular production? I didn't mean to say the same exact crop, but that the leaves used are supposed to be the same type.

I don't find it to be a problem, but that was part of the hype of the cigars, that they were going to be VERY exclusive.

T.G 01-07-2011 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1122986)
I didn't explain that correctly. I will have to find the discussion, but he claimed that Blacks were going to be his personal stash, then said that they were a one time thing, and now they are going to regular production? I didn't mean to say the same exact crop, but that the leaves used are supposed to be the same type.

I don't find it to be a problem, but that was part of the hype of the cigars, that they were going to be VERY exclusive.

Understood. I seem to vaguely recall reading some of those statements too.

I think some clarification from Pete as to the production numbers and what he meant by "regular" might be in order. He might have just meant that this a split release due to the box fubar that brought about it's release in the first place Or maybe it will be a low volume continuous production. I don't know, but I can see it possibly meaning either.

----

EDIT: I'm re-reading Pete's posts about the cigar production on another board, and it really does sound more like a split (early) release and then a limited release and he might have been referring to how factory workers are dedicated to a project. But I'll ask just to clarify.

rizzle 01-07-2011 10:17 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1122787)
Pete Johnson said it yesterday on BOTL

He also said the initial release won't be wet packed because they will be fresh. The regular production ones will be wet packed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooks W (Post 1122801)
Correct.

Pardon my complete ignorance, but what is "wet packed" and then, I guess, tha alternative "dry packed". Thanks.

Chainsaw13 01-07-2011 10:22 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 1123035)
Pardon my complete ignorance, but what is "wet packed" and then, I guess, tha alternative "dry packed". Thanks.

It's the difference of being rolled on the thighs of 18y/o virgin women vs. more "seasoned" gals. :r

rizzle 01-07-2011 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1123042)
It's the difference of being rolled on the thighs of 18y/o virgin women vs. more "seasoned" gals. :r

Heh. I'll take three of both. :xxx

Starz26 01-07-2011 10:26 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 1123035)
Pardon my complete ignorance, but what is "wet packed" and then, I guess, tha alternative "dry packed". Thanks.

Wet packed are when the cigars are wrapped in foil packaging immediately after being rolled. (do not think they go to the drying room at all..) Supposed to help with long term aging..

Since these will be fresh and meant to be smoked when released there is no need to wet pack them.

The cigars for later release will be wet packed since they will be sitting a while before release.

McSmokey 01-07-2011 10:27 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 1123052)
Heh. I'll take three of both. :xxx

Just 3 Rizz? :noon

rizzle 01-07-2011 10:43 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26 (Post 1123053)
Wet packed are when the cigars are wrapped in foil packaging immediately after being rolled. (do not think they go to the drying room at all..) Supposed to help with long term aging..

Since these will be fresh and meant to be smoked when released there is no need to wet pack them.

The cigars for later release will be wet packed since they will be sitting a while before release.

Gotcha. Thanks.
Quote:

Originally Posted by McSmokey (Post 1123055)
Just 3 Rizz? :noon

I'm getting old, bro. :D

Ranger_B 01-07-2011 11:03 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
I did it. Thanks for the heads up.

elderboy02 01-07-2011 11:05 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Got 2 5 packs. I will buy more when they are regular production.

azcards83 01-07-2011 11:05 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Order placed!

Superbad 01-07-2011 11:11 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1122765)
Where did you learn this information?

Pete Johnson talked about it on another site.

Superbad 01-07-2011 11:13 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1122787)
Pete Johnson said it yesterday on BOTL

He also said the initial release won't be wet packed because they will be fresh. The regular production ones will be wet packed.

I will get a 5er or 2 and wait for the wet packed then.

srduggins 01-07-2011 11:14 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1123123)
Got 2 5 packs. I will buy more when they are regular production.

Same here, and if I really like them it would be nice to have one of the wet packed boxes to lay down for a bit.

quantim0 01-07-2011 01:11 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Ordered a box.

I put my order in the second it showed up on the site. Hopefully I scored a box because I really enjoy the black label tubos and the one puff I had off a Black robusto at Epic 3.

I figure that if they're bad, someone will want them.

McSmokey 01-07-2011 01:18 PM

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Ordered a box and a fiver figure I'll smoke the fiver and if it's not my taste I'll sell the box either as a whole or fivers like quantim0 said someone will want them.

guado 01-07-2011 03:23 PM

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Got me a box and a fiver also. I hope they cut it off once they are all sold. I hate it when I get an email saying "sorry we over sold"

earnold25 01-07-2011 03:55 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
From TG's website:

"We have SOLD OUT!

The response the the Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero has been amazing! The lion's share of these cigars sold in the first 15 minutes. Orders have exceeded the out of state allocation. However, we have just made an executive decision to fulfill all of the orders that have been received today.

We apologize if you weren't able to get your order in.
Please CLICK HERE if you would like to be put on the reserve list.

Thank you for your continued support!"

AlohaStyle 01-07-2011 04:28 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus2600 (Post 1122492)
The SODO was what...$11 a stick? Same size.

I'll pay $8.50 for a good lancero.

But yeah, Tatuaje's limited releases are never cheap :(

Good to know that a regular release is on it's way!

SODO's are $9.20 a stick which includes shipping, and I believe there are some boxes left...

AlohaStyle 01-07-2011 04:28 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
And yes I got my Black PL box... couldn't resist :)

Smokin Gator 01-07-2011 04:40 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Dang you all... This one was right my alley and I missed it!!

Ranger_B 01-07-2011 05:23 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Gator I grabbed two 5ers and I am sure I could share once they get here.

CRIMPS 01-07-2011 06:28 PM

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That didn't take long :(

themoneycollector 01-07-2011 07:00 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
No rush, I'm actually waiting for the general release. I'd rather have some that are wet packed anyway. Hoping those will be more similar to the original CG goodness.

Superbad 01-07-2011 07:28 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
I ended up buying a box. I will pick up a box or so of the wet packed and put them down for a long, long sleep.

T.G 01-08-2011 09:15 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
I shot Pete a message asking for a bit more detail on the production and I mentioned the previous "limited / exclusive nature" commentary to which Wayne and I were talking about earlier in the thread, and Pete's reply was (reprinted verbatim with permission):

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Johnson / Tatuaje
The cigars will be in full production but quantities will not be huge. Maybe around 20,000 to 25,000 sticks per year max. Available to any current full line dealer. I decided to make this and maybe another, full production now that we have the tobacco to work with.


pinotguy 01-08-2011 10:12 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
I shot Pete a message asking for a bit more detail on the production and I mentioned the previous "limited / exclusive nature" commentary to which Wayne and I were talking about earlier in the thread, and Pete's reply was (reprinted verbatim with permission):

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Johnson / Tatuaje
The cigars will be in full production but quantities will not be huge. Maybe around 20,000 to 25,000 sticks per year max. Available to any current full line dealer. I decided to make this and maybe another, full production now that we have the tobacco to work with.
Thanks for the additional information - very interesting. I wonder if Pete might consider a true Corona (5 1/2" x 42) in the Black Label line? This size, with something like a flag cap, would be an incredible smoke, IMO. The medium ring-gauges have always been the best "show-case" for all of the Tat blends, and I've always wondered why this specific vitola has been ignored by them.

Smokin Gator 01-09-2011 06:23 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger_B (Post 1123667)
Gator I grabbed two 5ers and I am sure I could share once they get here.

That would be great. Just let me know!!

Silound 01-09-2011 08:17 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
I'd love a pair of them when they show up if anyone has some.

I didn't see this until tonight, and they're long since gone :)

wayner123 01-10-2011 07:03 AM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1125129)
I shot Pete a message asking for a bit more detail on the production and I mentioned the previous "limited / exclusive nature" commentary to which Wayne and I were talking about earlier in the thread, and Pete's reply was (reprinted verbatim with permission):


Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Johnson / Tatuaje
The cigars will be in full production but quantities will not be huge. Maybe around 20,000 to 25,000 sticks per year max. Available to any current full line dealer. I decided to make this and maybe another, full production now that we have the tobacco to work with.

Thanks for the update. At least it confirms what I was thinking earlier.

BSB 01-10-2011 09:33 AM

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The guys at Tobacco Grove are GREAT! This was my home B&M, when I lived in MN. Sweet place to hang out and smoke. Unfortunately, the taxes up there are killer :mad: Of course, they don't have to pass those along, on out of state internet orders.

azcards83 01-10-2011 03:07 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
Any updates on when these will begin shipping out?

Brooks W 01-10-2011 04:47 PM

Re: Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero
 
No one knows for sure, (Pete has not nailed down a specific date), but they are expected to be in the store around the first week of Feb...

~brooks


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