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Katmancross 01-02-2011 11:02 AM

Xikar Cutter-Not Released to Public Yet
 
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I got this as a gift. I can't find it on the Xikar web site. It was in a 5 cigar travel humidor with a lighter.

The plastic flag acts as a back stop so your cuts are controlled and only the smallest part of the cap is removed.

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ATobin 01-02-2011 11:28 AM

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Me likey. Have you tested it yet?

T.G 01-02-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1115858)
I got this as a gift. I can't find it on the Xikar web site.

A very nice and thoughtful gift. :tu

I think those were a special B&M only holiday gift pack item. They were announced back in October and it's in the 2010 Holiday catalog (page 16).

Katmancross 01-02-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ATobin (Post 1115881)
Me likey. Have you tested it yet?


I have. And it gives me the perfect cut every time. I usually take a regular guillotine cutter and do a 360 degree carefully around 1/32" around the cap so all that comes off is the cap wrapper. Like a little beanie.
With this, no thinking required. Stick it in and close the blades and voila!
I can't believe no one has thought of this....at least not in a major marketing environment.

Katmancross 01-02-2011 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1115887)
A very nice and thoughtful gift. :tu

I think those were a special B&M only holiday gift pack item. They were announced back in October and it's in the 2010 Holiday catalog (page 16).

Wow. It was an even nicer gift than I thought. And I thought it was pretty cool.
I immortalized the gentleman who gave it to me in one of my reviews at Famous.
I gave him a new nickname that I hope catches on where he works. That should drive him nuts.

T.G 01-02-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1115892)
I have. And it gives me the perfect cut every time. I usually take a regular guillotine cutter and do a 360 degree carefully around 1/32" around the cap so all that comes off is the cap wrapper. Like a little beanie.
With this, no thinking required. Stick it in and close the blades and voila!
I can't believe no one has thought of this....at least not in a major marketing environment.

Cutters with backstops have been around for quite a long time.

Katmancross 01-02-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1115902)
Cutters with backstops have been around for quite a long time.

So much for my credibility. I've never seen one.

Darrell 01-02-2011 11:56 AM

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Cutters with backstops are called "noob cutters". :D

Katmancross 01-02-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 1115910)
Cutters with backstops are called "noob cutters". :D

Thanks...a lot

T.G 01-02-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1115907)
So much for my credibility. I've never seen one.

Granted, they aren't all that commonly found.

Springsman 01-02-2011 12:22 PM

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hmmm...i've never seen one either....

Katmancross 01-02-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1115935)
Granted, they aren't all that commonly found.

You know, it may be a cultural thing. I know lots of smokers who think you need to cut 1/2" off. And then they can't figure out why their cigar unravels.
But on the other hand, I think cigar smokers are smarter than the average bear because it's an acquired taste. Especially, once you get pulled down that dark hole of "I need more..I need more."

Emjaysmash 01-02-2011 12:25 PM

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I bought one similar from Madeline Company at my local Tobacco Outlet.

But it didn't have the fancy flag on it! :tu

justonemorestick 01-02-2011 12:25 PM

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Very Patriotic.

Zeuceone 01-02-2011 12:26 PM

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Is the stop removable?

T.G 01-02-2011 12:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 1115910)
Cutters with backstops are called "noob cutters". :D

Sweet, I have a few of the all-metal Liga Privada and JdN backstop cutters from Jon Drew, how many noobs can I go out and cut with them? Is there a limit? Do you smoke your noobs band or band off? What's the best humidity for storing a noob? I know better than to ask if you should store them cello on or off.

T.G 01-02-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeuceone (Post 1115946)
Is the stop removable?

Yeah.... with a spade drill bit.

tobii3 01-02-2011 12:32 PM

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(kicking the thread back on topic)

Nice cutter Katman!

T.G 01-02-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1115939)
You know, it may be a cultural thing. I know lots of smokers who think you need to cut 1/2" off. And then they can't figure out why their cigar unravels.
But on the other hand, I think cigar smokers are smarter than the average bear because it's an acquired taste. Especially, once you get pulled down that dark hole of "I need more..I need more."

I'd guess that no one ever really explained to them how a cigar was made. Next time you're smoking with them and they complain about their cigar unraveling, do them a favor and explain that it's only the pectin glue under the cap that holds the cigar together.

I think the culture and economics are tied together. Look at what style of cutters are typically sold in B&Ms, especially at the lower price points, due to the higher demand and production volumes, they can get the cheap non-backstop cutters for much less, so they can sell them at a more attractive price, so that's what people buy and don't move away from as they graduate to better cutters. Or don't graduate, and just keep buying the same open cheap cutters and just toss & replace them every now and then.

Zeuceone 01-02-2011 01:26 PM

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QUOTE=T.G;1115951]Yeah.... with a spade drill bit.[/quote]

well that works.

kelmac07 01-02-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 1115910)
Cutters with backstops are called "noob cutters". :D

:r :r :r

tobii3 01-02-2011 02:02 PM

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damnedest thing.

EVERY double guillotine cutter has a "noob" backstop.

Or did everyone forget laying the cutter flat on the table? Did you forget WHY every double guillotine cutter is so thin?

Bill86 01-02-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1115951)
Yeah.... with a spade drill bit.

:r :tu

The cutter looks kinda cheap and the backstop is lame. I don't know if you could call me a noob for it but I've never seen a cutter with a backstop :confused:

T.G 01-02-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1116065)
:r :tu

The cutter looks kinda cheap and the backstop is lame. I don't know if you could call me a noob for it but I've never seen a cutter with a backstop :confused:

They have their uses. I keep a Liga Privada No. 9 metal cutter w/ backstop in my glovebox for cutting cigars while driving. If you have to cut a cigar in low light or have to cut a bunch of cigars in a hurry - like at my brothers wedding, I brought only the LP9 cutter for that reason, I was cutting and handing out cigars pretty quickly, and, being California, we had to be outside the hotel, which wasn't all that well lit at night. Also nice when you're bobbing around on a boat or something, no worries about miscutting due to a pitch or roll right when you squeeze. etc...

icehog3 01-02-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 1115910)
Cutters with backstops are called "noob cutters". :D

So did you get yours yet? ;)

CigarNut 01-03-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 1115910)
Cutters with backstops are called "noob cutters". :D

I like my noob cutters and use them all the time :D

whodeeni 01-03-2011 11:50 AM

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Nice! Congrats Katmann!

Katmancross 01-03-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeuceone (Post 1115946)
Is the stop removable?

No

Katmancross 01-03-2011 09:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeuceone (Post 1116017)
QUOTE=T.G;1115951]Yeah.... with a spade drill bit.

well that works.[/quote]

I can't hear you.....the Sawzall is making too much noise.

Bill86 01-03-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1116095)
They have their uses. I keep a Liga Privada No. 9 metal cutter w/ backstop in my glovebox for cutting cigars while driving. If you have to cut a cigar in low light or have to cut a bunch of cigars in a hurry - like at my brothers wedding, I brought only the LP9 cutter for that reason, I was cutting and handing out cigars pretty quickly, and, being California, we had to be outside the hotel, which wasn't all that well lit at night. Also nice when you're bobbing around on a boat or something, no worries about miscutting due to a pitch or roll right when you squeeze. etc...

Never would have thought about that. Great points, I usually smoke on the deck so I got nothing but time :D

Lucky_Hippo 01-05-2011 07:09 AM

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Cuban Crafters has sold metal versions of these for years called Perfect Cutters. They actually have a small round hole in the middle of the back stop so you can cut torpedos and such as well. I bought one a few years ago for a really cheap price at the time and used it on and off for several years when it crossed my path. It's nice to use when you um maybe have had one or ten too many to drink and keeps the cap from falling to the floor in a friends car as well.

Krish the Fish 01-05-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky_Hippo (Post 1119877)
It's nice to use when you um maybe have had one or ten too many to drink and keeps the cap from falling to the floor in a friends car as well.

:r

I've never used a cutter with a backstop, but I imagine if it's got the Xikar name on it, it can't be so bad.

ajacobs 01-05-2011 04:47 PM

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So no torepedos with this thing

weak_link 01-05-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1115948)
Sweet, I have a few of the all-metal Liga Privada and JdN backstop cutters from Jon Drew, how many noobs can I go out and cut with them? Is there a limit? Do you smoke your noobs band or band off? What's the best humidity for storing a noob? I know better than to ask if you should store them cello on or off.

I've actually been using the one you gave me quite a bit. I didn't think I was going to enjoy it as much as I have been. Thx broham. :banger

SNKBYT 01-05-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky_Hippo (Post 1119877)
Cuban Crafters has sold metal versions of these for years called Perfect Cutters. They actually have a small round hole in the middle of the back stop so you can cut torpedos and such as well. I bought one a few years ago for a really cheap price at the time and used it on and off for several years when it crossed my path. It's nice to use when you um maybe have had one or ten too many to drink and keeps the cap from falling to the floor in a friends car as well.

http://www.cubancrafters.com/products.php/item_id/5013

T.G 01-05-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ajacobs (Post 1120627)
So no torepedos with this thing

You most certainly can cut torpedoes, belicosos and other figurados with pointy heads with these cutters, you just have to do it a few times to work your way up the cigar.

T.G 01-05-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by weak_link (Post 1120682)
I've actually been using the one you gave me quite a bit. I didn't think I was going to enjoy it as much as I have been. Thx broham. :banger

Cool deal, you're welcome bro. I really like those LP9 cutters myself. Out of the half-dozen or so different styles/brands I own, it's by far the fastest cutting cutter I own and ties the Zino for cleanness of cuts. The Zino can't cut over 47-49 RG though....

waffle 01-06-2011 06:54 AM

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I actually won a JdN cutter and enjoy using it like TG in dimly light times and when I have a bunch of people over and we've imbibed a bit excessively... it really does a nice job.

Frodo 01-06-2011 11:38 AM

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I've got one like that by Madaline (sp) who was bought out by Xikar. Coincidence?

Katmancross 01-07-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1120725)
You most certainly can cut torpedoes, belicosos and other figurados with pointy heads with these cutters, you just have to do it a few times to work your way up the cigar.


That's how I do it. two clips for a torpedo

Katmancross 01-07-2011 05:39 PM

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Why are the Palio cutters sort of a cult cutter? Are they that much better than a Xikar?
Because they ain't cheap.

Katmancross 01-07-2011 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Krish the Fish (Post 1120478)
:r

I've never used a cutter with a backstop, but I imagine if it's got the Xikar name on it, it can't be so bad.

For some reason, I've had not much luck with the Xikar Xi2.
The more expensive ones are much better

Katmancross 01-07-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tobii3 (Post 1116058)
damnedest thing.

EVERY double guillotine cutter has a "noob" backstop.

Or did everyone forget laying the cutter flat on the table? Did you forget WHY every double guillotine cutter is so thin?

Yes, but finding a table or counter in the car is troublesome

Katmancross 01-07-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1116065)
:r :tu

The cutter looks kinda cheap and the backstop is lame. I don't know if you could call me a noob for it but I've never seen a cutter with a backstop :confused:


Time will tell. Everyone claims that their cutters are self sharpening. But it takes several months before that claim is found to be true or not

T.G 01-07-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123708)
Why are the Palio cutters sort of a cult cutter? Are they that much better than a Xikar?
Because they ain't cheap.

"Better" is relative to one's preferences. They are both quality cutters, but they are different.

The Xikar is basically a set of encapsulated cigar scissors. It's apparent by your earlier comment that you have used them, so I don't need to go on about them.

The Palio is a bit more innovative in the design. It's a dual guillotine, but it only has two parts (two blades that move against each other), as opposed to the typical three (two blades which move inside a body). It's slim, it's lightweight, it makes very precise, clean, sharp cut, it includes a built in cigar rest, the owner of the company, Mark ("OpusEx") is a very personable, stand up guy who interfaces often with the other S/BOTLs on the boards and elsewhere.

Katmancross 01-07-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1123803)
"Better" is relative to one's preferences. They are both quality cutters, but they are different.

The Xikar is basically a set of encapsulated cigar scissors. It's apparent by your earlier comment that you have used them, so I don't need to go on about them.

The Palio is a bit more innovative in the design. It's a dual guillotine, but it only has two parts (two blades that move against each other), as opposed to the typical three (two blades which move inside a body). It's slim, it's lightweight, it makes very precise, clean, sharp cut, it includes a built in cigar rest, the owner of the company, Mark ("OpusEx") is a very personable, stand up guy who interfaces often with the other S/BOTLs on the boards and elsewhere.


Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
You are a genius!
Do you do windows?

The Kat

pnoon 01-07-2011 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123828)
Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
You are a genius!
Do you do windows?

The Kat

I can't speak for Adam.

I think the basic black ones are most definitely worth the dough. The value of the special finishes really depends on how much it's worth to you. That is just cosmetic. I own multiple Palios and I can't say enough good things about them. Xikar makes a great cutter but I don't care for the ergonomics. Palio is a top quality cutter backed by an outstanding warranty and the owners are great guys (and personal friends). Those here that have met Marc, Jack and Mike would agree.

weak_link 01-07-2011 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123828)
Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
You are a genius!
Do you do windows?

The Kat

I love my Palio, more so than the Xicar, but the one T.G. gave me is a good distraction.

T.G 01-07-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmancross (Post 1123828)
Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
You are a genius!
Do you do windows?

The Kat

Thanks.

Yes, I do own a Palio - one of the original Amyx & Christy models.

I agree with Peter. The basic black one is worth the dough. The upgraded finishes are just personal touches for extra cost, if you like them, great, but it's the exact same cutter, body and allunder that finish as the base black one.

I do windows, but I charge extra for 3.0, 3.1, 3.11/WFWG, 95, 98, ME, NT3.5, NT3.5 and NT4.0 because they are so archaic and after dealing with them since they were first released, I'm sick of them. And, no, just because xwindows is GNU and free, doesn't mean my time is to fix it after someone breaks it.:D

Katmancross 01-07-2011 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1123869)
Thanks.

Yes, I do own a Palio - one of the original Amyx & Christy models.

I do windows, but I charge extra for 3.0, 3.1, 3.11/WFWG, 95, 98, ME, NT3.5, NT3.5 and NT4.0 because they are so archaic and after dealing with them since they were first released, I'm sick of them.

I am directing you to go outside, strip down to your socks, find a nearby duck, hold a pine cone between your teeth, lift the duck to your cheek(face), walk slowly to a a bar that opens at 6am, and sit at the end of the bar and cry like the call of the Southern Right Whale Dolphin. If the phone rings, answer it by saying, "Guido here." If they ask which Guido?, hang up.


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