damn customs
 

if they only knew the rules.

I got a letter today, a package that I send myself (using the address of a friend as return address) when I was in the US a few weeks ago got confiscated even though

It wasn't a commercial shipment, less then 400 cigars, so it was allowed. I hate customs.

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WTF?! Do you have any recourse in a situation like this, Ferdie?

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Got the letter today, will call them and file an official protest on monday, hope I am not too late and that the package isn't destroyed already. Had some HTF cigars in there, including the Tat Sodo.

Worst thing is, the letter says that my address has been flagged as it is the second time they found tobacco in packages to my address, so I'm on the shitlist now, no more orders from the US.

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I call :bs This is all a ruse so no one bombs your ass anymore. :D
Seriously though - hope this works out for you.

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I've been bombed so hard in Florida that I don't care no more Vin, i'm numb ;)

I hope I get my box of cigars, and that I find a way to still be able to order cigars in the US as you guys get a much bigger selection than we do.

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That sucks, Ferdie. Maybe it's time to ask your neighbors if you can get packages shipped to them instead of you. Although that may seem a little fishy to them lol.

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A friend from Belgium sent me a laptop to get fixed, and upon sending it back to him it sat in customs for almost 2 months because of some paranoia on evading sales taxes on items like that in Belgium.

We're afraid of getting blowed up and you guys are afraid of getting ripped off. No-win situation there.

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I hate Customs!!!!

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That blows Ferdie....hope they see the error of their ways and you get your smokes.

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BS!!!

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We've been having issues with Customs here in the US these days to. ;)

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You got a Case number and 30 days to protest. Should be good to go Brother. I hope!:tu

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What a bunch of bull.

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Damn, Good Luck Brother hope you get them back, F**king idiots.

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+1

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So Sorry To Hear This, Ferdie!:fl Hope It Gets Resolved In Your Favor Soon!

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I call :bs

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it ain't Mac. I wish it was. This is a couple of hundred bucks of cigars that I lost and my addy is tagged.

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I came in here expecting you to be moaning that the Dutch government had made Clog Dancing in front of the Town Windmills on a Saturday a mandatory thing to increase tourism...

On a serious note, do you think you'd be able to find a lawyer to sue the Dutch Authorities if they have destroyed the shipment? Do you think you'd have a case?

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;s Fredie I hope you get your cigars back from these a**holes!!

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doood....that sucks...sorry to hear, fight the good fight, Hope you get your stogies!

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man, sorry to hear about that! do tell us what happens, curious to see how they respond to this!

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Hey, Customs sucks over here also :)

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no better in Canada....

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Man, UK customs are sounding pretty good, for you lot. They just tax the living crap out of it, no 'you may not have them' :bs

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Ferdie, even if they destroyed them already there has to be a Tort process for recompense on damaged or falsely seized goods as required by the WCO/NATO under the Kyoto Convention.

Sorry to see it happen. I just hope you get a good officer who will fairly judge your response to the seizure.

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Sorry to hear this Ferdi but since you have an appeal process I don't think they'll destroy them until you have a chance to plead your case.....Now I'm glad I gave you the ashtray!

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I gotcha...only the lighters.

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Er... don't bet on it. In the UK, I can think of one prominent story from a few years ago. Wasn't cigars, but a disabled man came back from Europe with what Customs deemed excess items (I'm fairly sure it was rolling tobacco), and his car was seized, along with all the products. He was forced to get a taxi home, 350 miles away, and had no other means of transport. He waited for his appeal, 3 weeks later, where the judge ruled in his favour, he hadn't bought excess items in to the country, Customs & Excise were to return his car and products to him. At which point C&E told him they'd already destroyed the product and crushed his car.

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that sucks. i haven't had many run-ins with customs, but they did snag some DVDs from my bag in Afghanistan.

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Dude. You know too much!:r

Any update Ferdie?

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Yeah...I'll be curious to see what comes of this. Sorry to hear of the troubles Ferd :td

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haha. I was thinking the same thing but was also quite impressed and in awe of his knowledge.

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I read a lot. :tu

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nu updates.

Problem is I don't exactly know what was in the box, a lot of singles and a box of Diesel Unlimited.

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A friend sent you a gift. You shouldn't know what was in the box. ;)

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Hope this works out!

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Customs is consistently inconsistent.

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This sux man, i hope you get your stuff. Good luck.

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God bless the US Constitution:

Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

If it was all legit and legal, and this happened here, you'd have a good legal case for some $$$ compensation. Just my opinon, I am not a lawyer.

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Hey Jason...Santa sent you a gift and You DON't know what's in the Boxes!:banger


Ferdie, Santa is pulling for you my Dutch Brother!:tu