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CigarInspector 11-21-2010 02:57 AM

Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Hello everyone,

I was thinking about an article idea for the blog and decided to ask for your advice. I'm looking to create a short list of cigars that you can gift and that will please every or almost every cigar smoker. The goal is to help people who do not necessarily know much about cigars (either non smokers or beginners) and who want to make a gift to their smoking friends (I often receive e-mails asking for this kind of advice).

I think that the cigars we are looking for should be:
- rather easy to find
- suitable for every kind of smoker (= no powerhouses, no extremely mild cigars)
- a significant part of these cigars should be within a reasonable budget

I came up with the following cigars that I think would be great for every smoker whatever his/her flavor profile:
Oliva Serie V (too strong?)
Cubao range
Ashton VSG
Arturo Fuente Hemingway
CAO La Traviata
Padron 1926
Illusione 88
Avo Domaine
Tat - which blend?

Wondering what's your opinion on these. Any brands/blends you think should not be on the list? Anything you'd like to add?

Thanks a ton :)

Martel 11-21-2010 05:50 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Not a bad list. I would suggest Padron 2000's as well. Cheaper than some others on your list, easy to find, smoke great right away, and consistent.

BTW, I enjoy the blog.

Cheers,
G

Adriftpanda 11-21-2010 06:00 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarInspector (Post 1068882)

I think that the cigars we are looking for should be:
- rather easy to find
- suitable for every kind of smoker (= no powerhouses, no extremely mild cigars)
- a significant part of these cigars should be within a reasonable budget

I came up with the following cigars that I think would be great for every smoker whatever his/her flavor profile:
Oliva Serie V (too strong?)
Cubao range
Ashton VSG
Arturo Fuente Hemingway
CAO La Traviata
Padron 1926
Illusione 88
Avo Domaine
Tat - which blend?

Wondering what's your opinion on these. Any brands/blends you think should not be on the list? Anything you'd like to add?

Thanks a ton :)

Not a bad list, but I don't think a Padron 26 is a reasonable budget for new smokers. :2

CAO Gold, La Triviata
AF Hemmingway
Tatuaje Havana (Red Label)

Shemp Howard 11-21-2010 06:04 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
I like your list as I have smoked most but not all of them. I especially enjoy the Ashtons and Hemingways. I do think that there is of course not a magic smoke that everyone will enjoy.

688sonarmen 11-21-2010 06:40 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martel (Post 1068908)
Not a bad list. I would suggest Padron 2000's as well. Cheaper than some others on your list, easy to find, smoke great right away, and consistent.

BTW, I enjoy the blog.

Cheers,
G

Smoked one with several years on it yesterday and it was quite enjoyable.

Kreth 11-21-2010 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriftpanda (Post 1068912)
Not a bad list, but I don't think a Padron 26 is a reasonable budget for new smokers. :2

:tpd: Although not as pricey, the VSGs are probably a little steep for a beginner.
The regular Padron line is always good, and how about something "entry-level" like a JPG Fumadore, Indian Tabac Classic or Maduro, or a Perdomo Lot 826?
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hammondc 11-21-2010 06:53 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Anything Padron, Fuente, Oliva or Pepin

nick2021 11-21-2010 07:38 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hammondc (Post 1068939)
Anything Padron, Fuente, Oliva or Pepin

+1 :tpd:

mosesbotbol 11-21-2010 07:41 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Davidoff

688sonarmen 11-21-2010 08:20 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
La Riqueza. I heard that the bands changed for these, I seriously hope the blend has stayed the same.

alwayslit 11-21-2010 08:30 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Padron 1000 series maduro
Fuente Hemmingway and Don Carlos
Illusione
Tat brown label
Pepin blue label

Ogre 11-21-2010 08:52 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
I have yet to have anything bad from

Arturo Fuente
AVO
Romeo y Julieta (limited exposure) but all good so far.

Stinky 11-21-2010 09:29 AM

Re: ADVICE you can't go wrong with???????
 
I like what you're saying, but your list does not take me there!

As stated; you have a few that are high priced! Suggest you ease the pain with the new guy$!

Agree with your criteria to keep it to the medium range. . . you list stepped outside the box a few times! OUCH! You'll have to include a resuscitation kit for the Newbies ! ! !

You also said rather easy to find. Where do you think your readers are? Tat's are NOT easy to find across the country. They are a very popular cigar among avid cigar enthusiasts, but still considered a boutique line of cigars. VSG is also a difficult line to find in the average cigar shoppe.

Rather than offer my list of favorite cigars. . . I'd strongly suggest you include a paragraph about how to select/approach a local tobacconist (cigar store). First; we ALL need to support our local B&M (brick and mortar) shops. Second; your experience and guidance will be better balanced if you encourage research and an open-mind while beginning one's exploration of the world of fine cigars. JMHO. I don't encourage short-cuts. . . not sayin' your list is a short-cut, but some newbies might take it that way. When it comes to suggesting cigars (flavor, aroma, size, strength, body, etc.) it's VERY (extremely) personal what people will like.

Interesting topic. I enjoy discussions with the new cigar guys (newbies). . . and they are fun to watch! :)

CigarNut 11-21-2010 09:50 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
As others have said, the Padron 1926 and some of your other choices are pretty spendy. When I start someone off I ususally start with one of the following:

- Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic 1952 or 1979
- Arturo Fuente Hemingway Short Story or Best Seller
- Gran Habano Corojo #5

Mr.Erskine 11-21-2010 09:53 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
For newbs, what about the Oliva O? I know the V gets all the press because it is outstanding, and easily one of my favs, but if there is a question of strength with the V, I think that the O is a perfectly acceptable starting point.

My list, if we're talking about something for newer cigar smokers or smokers that are learning, (as I am,) would be thus:

Oliva V (I'm putting this in mostly because it is one of the best)
Oliva O
Rocky Patel The Edge habano
Ashton VSG (Pricey)

DaBear 11-21-2010 10:26 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarInspector (Post 1068882)
Hello everyone,

I was thinking about an article idea for the blog and decided to ask for your advice. I'm looking to create a short list of cigars that you can gift and that will please every or almost every cigar smoker. The goal is to help people who do not necessarily know much about cigars (either non smokers or beginners) and who want to make a gift to their smoking friends (I often receive e-mails asking for this kind of advice).

I believe he is asking for ideas for good cigars that anyone would like, regardless of whether they started smoking yesterday or 30 years ago, so that if someone close to them wants to get them a gift they can get them a good smoke.

Garbandz 11-21-2010 10:45 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Carillo,Perdomo Connecticut and Maduro 10th anniv.,La Traviata,Oliva Cameroon and Maduro,Patel 1961,Guillermo Leon,Illusione,Padron,San Cristobal,La Aroma de Cuba,Cubao,Perdomo lot 23.
Mid range prices and medium strength,and consistant quality.

T.G 11-21-2010 11:15 AM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBear (Post 1069119)
I believe he is asking for ideas for good cigars that anyone would like, regardless of whether they started smoking yesterday or 30 years ago, so that if someone close to them wants to get them a gift they can get them a good smoke.


You could ask every member here and you're going to get just as many different answers as there are members.

gijoey959 11-21-2010 12:10 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
I had the RyJ habana reserve for 5 or 6 dollars and it was easily one of the best smokes in the price range

Anything from DPG Black label, those are amazing

I can't get Tatuaje locally anymore, so I don't know if i'd put that for a general list

Hope this works out for you, sounds like a cool idea :tu

Wharf Rat 11-21-2010 12:46 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
The cigars being suggested are largely pretty strong cigars. I agree with tem, but I wonder if you need a similar list for folks who like lighter cigars.

Bill86 11-21-2010 12:48 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Anything Viaje
Montecristo Platinum
Cohiba Black
Tatuaje Black
Fuente Short Story
Don Pepin Cuban Classic
Romeo Y Julieta Reserva Real
5 Vegas Gold

CigarInspector 11-21-2010 12:49 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Thanks for your response (and all the suggestions - I'm keeping track of those) guys!

Padron 1926 & Ashton VSGs are the two blends that I selected among the pricier cigars, I am aware that they are not for everyone's wallet.

@Martel, thanks for your kind words. Padron 2000 is a cigar I always recommend as a great price/quality ratio.

@DaBear, you summed it up very well.

@Stinky, what do you think are the blends available across a lot of cigar shops in the whole country, within a reasonable budget? I'm curious to hear your opinion as you seem to work closely with B&Ms.

nozero 11-21-2010 01:03 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarInspector (Post 1068882)
CAO La Traviata

Currently my favorite smoke.

DaBear 11-21-2010 01:18 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
For a lighter cigar, Perdomo 10th Champagne.

Brickhouse is good and fairly easy to find(in my experience) as well, though its more medium bodied

flybum62 11-21-2010 01:29 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
I suggets the following to those who ask for my opinion:
Montecristo Platinum
Romeo Y Juliette 1875
Nub

babybob2k 11-21-2010 04:12 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Erskine (Post 1069085)
For newbs, what about the Oliva O? I know the V gets all the press because it is outstanding, and easily one of my favs, but if there is a question of strength with the V, I think that the O is a perfectly acceptable starting point.

:tpd:

Since I've started smoking cigars as a hobby, I've turned three of my friends on to them with the Serie O. All three of them have gone on to try different smokes and all come back asking for another Oliva.

They aren't too strong, seem to always burn near perfectly (all of mine have anyways), and are just an all around good first experience.

Brad 11-21-2010 04:35 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Padron 1964's. Any of them.

joeobx 11-21-2010 06:05 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
CAO Gold
CAO Gold maduro
RP Edge
CAO Brazllia (spelling ? )
Anything AJ Fernadez

Wharf Rat 11-21-2010 06:42 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by babybob2k (Post 1069375)
:tpd:

Since I've started smoking cigars as a hobby, I've turned three of my friends on to them with the Serie O. All three of them have gone on to try different smokes and all come back asking for another Oliva.

They aren't too strong, seem to always burn near perfectly (all of mine have anyways), and are just an all around good first experience.

Actually, an Oliva sampler spanning from The Conn Reserve to the MB3 would be a pretty good intro...

BeerAdvocate 11-21-2010 06:49 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Brickhouse - Best cigar for the price!

Wolfgang 11-21-2010 07:14 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Fuente 858

joeobx 11-21-2010 07:28 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Man o War

troutbreath 11-21-2010 07:29 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gijoey959 (Post 1069180)
I had the RyJ habana reserve for 5 or 6 dollars and it was easily one of the best smokes in the price range

Anything from DPG Black label, those are amazing

I can't get Tatuaje locally anymore, so I don't know if i'd put that for a general list

Hope this works out for you, sounds like a cool idea :tu



One of my favorite value smokes. Bought a box of robustos about 2 years ago, and I have been digging back into them now that the weather is getting colder -- too cold for the double coronas, anyway.

Other reliables at a value price:

Hemingway -- always reliable, Short Story is a good value
Padron x000 series (fan of the 5000's, myself)
Carlos Torano Exodus Gold
Tatuaje Browns (love the Unicos -- maybe too pricey)
Cabiguan Guapos Jr.
Don Tomas Sungrown Perfectos (#1, is the little guy, I think)
Oliva G special G

boom 11-21-2010 08:28 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Oliva G's
CAO La Triviata
AF Hemmingway
Tatuaje Havana VI

Martel 11-21-2010 08:45 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Yeah, Hemingways for sure. That's a smoke with pretty broad appeal.

Cheers,
G

Shemp Howard 11-21-2010 10:24 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martel (Post 1069646)
Yeah, Hemingways for sure. That's a smoke with pretty broad appeal.

Cheers,
G

I concur. They are my current favorite.

markem 11-21-2010 10:26 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
I'll toss in the Punch Punch, which I always liked and compares favorably, in my experience, with the short story.

jsd 11-21-2010 10:50 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad (Post 1069397)
Padron 1964's. Any of them.

Definitely. I've never been disappointed with one of these.

jsd 11-21-2010 10:51 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Punch Rothschild Double Maduro has never let me down either.

SouthernSmoke 11-21-2010 11:21 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Oliva V's, G's, or O's
DPG Cuban Classics
601 Blue/Red
Cubao
Perdomo Lot 23 Maduro
Tat Havanas

just my .02

CigarInspector 11-23-2010 03:24 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
All right, here's an updated list; I included blends mentioned several times:

Oliva Serie O/G for less experienced and V for more experienced smokers
Padron 2000 as an excellent value/money choice
Brickhouse same as above
Cubao
Arturo Fuente Hemingway
CAO La Traviata, CAO Gold
Padron 1926/1964 if you are willing to spend some money
Ashton VSG less expensive than Padrons but still pricey
Avo Domaine
Tat Havana, Brown that is, if you can find them
DPG Cuban Classic
Perdomo Lot 23

Thanks again for your help guys.

dwoodward 11-23-2010 03:30 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Most of the suggestions here I cannot find at any B&M here in town... I think you need to set your sights lower than Padrons and Hemmingways for gifts. Because at least around here, the non cigar smoker will have a extremely rough time finding cigars that meet that bill.

cmitch 11-23-2010 03:40 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1071643)
Most of the suggestions here I cannot find at any B&M here in town... I think you need to set your sights lower than Padrons and Hemmingways for gifts. Because at least around here, the non cigar smoker will have a extremely rough time finding cigars that meet that bill.

Then move where there ARE good cigars. The manager of our local cigar store is from South Dakota.:tu:D

Knip23 11-23-2010 04:44 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Nice List brother, One i would add to it is Carinos, Cheaper that Padron and Ashton. Very Delightful smoke great through the whole smoke. And its like 70 bucks a box. Really enjoyed them.

Ratters 11-23-2010 05:37 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
My list:
Camacho Corojo, it just is always a solid smoke.
Cubao
601 Red
MOW
Tat Red

But for non regular smokers I'll smoke these with them:
Edge Sumatra
Oliva G Maduro
Punch Rare Corojo

Doctorossi 11-23-2010 07:57 PM

Re: Cigars you can't go wrong with?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratters (Post 1071741)
Camacho Corojo, it just is always a solid smoke.

I was thinking so, as well, although it might be a bit strong in the nic department for some.


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