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sammyboy405 11-21-2010 12:42 AM

Opus X ... Am I Missing Something
 
So I must be missing something. Alot of people told me Tons of good things about Opus X. So I bought 2 of them. I Smoked one tonight and I just wasn't happy with it. It was very tight. Hard to get any draw on it. And it smells wonderful but lacks in flavor.

other than the wonderful Aroma it has, I did enjoy the fact that it wasn't a very smoky cigar. Its one of the few cigars Ive smoked that didnt have alot of idle smoke to them.

Im not sure if its just me or not, but It didnt live of to the hype. From what I understand I did get a good deal on them price wise. 11.40 Each.

So am I missing something here or did I just get a bad rolled cigar?

Bill86 11-21-2010 12:54 AM

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Yes you got a good deal, most people say Opus X need 6 months - a year minimum rest before they smoke good/right.

I would suggest letting them rest or buying aged Opus X.

dwoodward 11-21-2010 01:11 AM

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Sounds like it was plugged.

Remember, a cigar is only as good as you want it to be. If you imagine the Opus X to be the most memorable experience of your life, you will probably end up disappointed.

I would try another, and don't expect too much from it. A cigar is just a cigar.

Dunkel 11-21-2010 05:34 AM

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I've smoked a few Opus X's and don't see why people think they are so amazing. If I'm going smoke an AF I'd much rather have an Anejo.

Bax 11-21-2010 05:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill86 (Post 1068858)
Yes you got a good deal, most people say Opus X need 6 months - a year minimum rest before they smoke good/right.

I would suggest letting them rest or buying aged Opus X.

Age makes all the difference in the world with Opus. Had some wonderful aged ones but fresh are not for me.

brigey57 11-21-2010 06:05 AM

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I smoked one several years ago and loved it but like Derrick said it's all in the frame of mind and anticipation of the smoke. I bought it and it was a very good smoke but was it worth the money I paid for it, I don't think so. For a few bucks less I think I have enjoyed better smokes. Give it some time, let the stick age, and try it again. If you still feel that the stick wasn't that good then maybe you need to avoid it in the future and find one that you enjoy more. JMHO :2

Shemp Howard 11-21-2010 06:09 AM

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IMO Opus X's are a status smoke. I have had a few and like most people think they might be a bit over priced. I won't go out of my way to buy one though. I perfer the Hemingways and Ashtons.

quantim0 11-21-2010 06:31 AM

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I have a number of 06-07 Opus and a few new ones. The new ones don't even taste like the same stick as a new one. The new ones are too strong to let the complexity shine, with age that strength fades and you have a cigar that is tought to find a comparison to.

G G 11-21-2010 06:34 AM

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I have only smoked one and am told it's hard to make a judgement on that, but I wasn't all that impressed either. I had a freind tell me a week or two ago that he smoked 17 of them before they were great to him.

TripleF 11-21-2010 06:38 AM

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I know what you're thinking. I do. I smoked probably 15 or so over a 2.5 year time frame and was just never "WOWED". They didn't do anything for me.


Then one hit me just right and I've been a huge fan ever since.....

Now, I love 'em!


Hang in there, smoke a few more, enjoy the experience.......

AshesToAshes 11-21-2010 06:58 AM

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Been smoking Opus Cigars for 10 years and they are a great cigar. People get confused about when to smoke these and as one of the brothers suggested if they aren't aged at least a year you won't find them to be as good as you think. I smoke most of mine at the 18 month mark and they are great. Not everyone is going to love this cigar because not everybody has the same taste. That just means more for me.

nick2021 11-21-2010 07:35 AM

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I also heard age does wonders for OpusX...had the same situation as you experienced with one ROTT...was disappointed.

mosesbotbol 11-21-2010 07:44 AM

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Been smoking Opus X since they came out. Many of them are just too oily and burn really slow. I always thought since the release they were novelty. Who cares if it is a DR wrapper, big deal.

Don Carlos still "the" cigar line from Fuente which was their flagship before the Opus X was released.

All that bashing aside, when an Opus X is good, it can compete with the best cigars in the world for sure.

SSDVC 11-21-2010 07:48 AM

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Whew !!!!!!!! I thought is was just me ! I had three and I was not impressed either. I have had better smokes for a lot less. And yes, one I know for sure was aged for about two years. I'm not a prolific smoker or connoisseur and I can't really put my finger on it, but I think the stick just lacked some flavor or something.

tenbaseg 11-21-2010 07:50 AM

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IMO A plugged cigar has no chance of being good.

Bunker 11-21-2010 07:55 AM

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I was a non-believer until I was bombed with some aged (1-2 year-old) smokes. The aged xXx was one of the best cigars I ever smoked CC or otherwise.

kelmac07 11-21-2010 08:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkel (Post 1068900)
I've smoked a few Opus X's and don't see why people think they are so amazing. If I'm going smoke an AF I'd much rather have an Anejo.

Totally agree with you Doug!!! :tu

neoflex 11-21-2010 08:05 AM

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I hate these fresh but with 2 or 3 years of age they are fantastic. Some guys like them fresh but I think they need the down time to really reach their potential.

alwayslit 11-21-2010 08:39 AM

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Opus need rest ROTT....imho. They have a tendency to be wet. If you dry box them for 48 to 72 hours your experience should be a lot better. If you have the time they get better with age.

ChicagoWhiteSox 11-21-2010 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bax (Post 1068901)
Age makes all the difference in the world with Opus. Had some wonderful aged ones but fresh are not for me.

:tpd:

zappaFREAK 11-21-2010 09:39 AM

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Love these but age improves everything... even people...well most of them anyway.

flybum62 11-21-2010 01:10 PM

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I've had a few several years ago, it was suggested by the b&m guy to let them "set for a while." This was in November, and smoked them during the summer. VERY good cigar, lots of smoke and great taste. Hard to find, but well worth the wait.

sikk50 11-21-2010 01:56 PM

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Opus, new or old, = <3

Brad 11-21-2010 02:07 PM

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Many people find fresh Opus to be harsh and overpowering. I try to buy some every year, then let them rest for a year before smoking them.

The only high end cigars that I've found that don't benefit from a nice long nap are the top shelf Padrons like the 64's, 26's, etc. Those are ready to go right off the truck.

Bill86 11-21-2010 02:14 PM

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There's also a lot of hype about Opus X which makes people think it is the end all be all of cigars. Pay $10-12 a stick, let them rest for a year or more and have an open mind.

If you pay too much you start expecting too much.

On that note tomorrow I think I'll smoke an Opus X.

icehog3 11-21-2010 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1068967)
All that bashing aside, when an Opus X is good, it can compete with the best cigars in the world for sure.

I will say that a few Opus X that I have smoked that were "on" were wonderful cigars. Unfortunately for me, I have had far more duds than studs when smoking Opus X.

RevSmoke 11-21-2010 04:40 PM

Re: Opus X ... Am I Missing Something
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkel (Post 1068900)
I've smoked a few Opus X's and don't see why people think they are so amazing. If I'm going smoke an AF I'd much rather have an Anejo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1068987)
Totally agree with you Doug!!! :tu

I also agree, Anejos are better in my opinion.. I have een gifts some Opus in the past few years, and so I am letting them age - I am hoping to be impressed more impressed with them, than I have been with the 2 score I've smoked since their inception.

Garbandz 11-21-2010 05:40 PM

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I have been given Opus and purchased them for years,NEVER had one yet worth the money. Smoked Fuentes products in the 80's and 90's,they were good then.
Now I do not even bother with them,there is a whole world of better cigars.

akumushi 11-21-2010 05:48 PM

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My least favorite fuentes. Give me a an 8-5-8 Sungrown over any Opus any day. Age makes them tolerable, but not "oh wow, that's worth the money" good. I could see where if you're a pure mouth smoker they could have merit, but 70% of my smoking enjoyment comes from the nose, so that colors my opinion:2

thebiglebowski 11-21-2010 06:16 PM

Re: Opus X ... Am I Missing Something
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyboy405 (Post 1068855)
So I must be missing something. Alot of people told me Tons of good things about Opus X. So I bought 2 of them. I Smoked one tonight and I just wasn't happy with it. It was very tight. Hard to get any draw on it. And it smells wonderful but lacks in flavor.

other than the wonderful Aroma it has, I did enjoy the fact that it wasn't a very smoky cigar. Its one of the few cigars Ive smoked that didnt have alot of idle smoke to them.

Im not sure if its just me or not, but It didnt live of to the hype. From what I understand I did get a good deal on them price wise. 11.40 Each.

So am I missing something here or did I just get a bad rolled cigar?

it's the right time of year for you to seek out some anejos. love them lots better than opus...

troutbreath 11-21-2010 07:01 PM

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Good thread. A cigar like an OpusX is going to be influenced by age, the moment, and the expectations you have going into the experience. Some cigars will never be able to live up to the hype, and the OpusX has a LOT of hype. Personally, I love 'em. But I put them down for at least a year before smoking them.

Right now, I think I have about 70 resting comfortably . . . :)

The Anejos NEVER disappoint. EVER. Had a 50 on Friday, and once again I was blown away. Great flavors, and the burn was PERFECT. Razor sharp. Great way to end a week.

Bill86 11-21-2010 07:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by troutbreath (Post 1069551)
Right now, I think I have about 70 resting comfortably . . . :)

The Anejos NEVER disappoint. EVER. Had a 50 on Friday, and once again I was blown away. Great flavors, and the burn was PERFECT. Razor sharp. Great way to end a week.

O_o 70 Opus :dr :dr :tu

I have to try these Anejos, not usually one for the regular Fuente lineup. More interested in Opus/GoF. But with the how many people recommending these in this thread alone, they are definitely on my list of cigars to try.

JJG 11-21-2010 10:00 PM

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My advice to the original poster would be, don't write them off just yet. My first Opus X didn't "wow" me either. I didn't actually come to appreciate them until after I started smoking Cubans pretty much exclusively. Now I can't think of another NC that even comes close to the richness and complexity of an Opus X. Honestly, they would be my number 1 cigar, (cc or otherwise) if price was not an issue.

This is coming from a guy who definitely doesn't give a crap about hype, or "status cigars". Most of my close friends don't even know about my cigar obsession. -(P

Shemp Howard 11-21-2010 10:11 PM

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i still have 2 Opus X's buried in a humidor at home with about 18 months on it by now. Will have 2 years on them by the time I get home. I will dig 1 out and give it a try then. The others I have smoked were young and didn't have a chance to rest so that might be the problem.

x man 11-21-2010 11:17 PM

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O geez, Opus is Opus for me. It stands alone, i dont compare
it to other cigars. Ive never smoked a tight Opus if it was kept well.
For me Fuente is reliable, draw flavor burn, almost never get a
flawed Fuente.
It can be an acquired taste.

smelvis 11-21-2010 11:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x man (Post 1069755)
O geez, Opus is Opus for me. It stands alone, i dont compare
it to other cigars. Ive never smoked a tight Opus if it was kept well.
For me Fuente is reliable, draw flavor burn, almost never get a
flawed Fuente.
It can be an acquired taste.

I have to agree with Art here, I guess we can't all like the same things, that would be boring anyway. :)

You are not the 1st I know that doesn't like Fuentes stuff though!

icehog3 11-22-2010 12:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x man (Post 1069755)
O geez, Opus is Opus for me. It stands alone, i dont compare
it to other cigars. Ive never smoked a tight Opus if it was kept well.
For me Fuente is reliable, draw flavor burn, almost never get a
flawed Fuente.
It can be an acquired taste.

Fuentes do have pretty impeccable construction in my experience, think I have only had one that had a poor draw over the last several years.

RevSmoke 11-22-2010 06:40 AM

Re: Opus X ... Am I Missing Something
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Garbandz (Post 1069455)
I have been given Opus and purchased them for years,NEVER had one yet worth the money. Smoked Fuentes products in the 80's and 90's,they were good then.
Now I do not even bother with them,there is a whole world of better cigars.

My first "premium hand-rolled" cigar was a Chateau Fuente in the fall of 1980. I smoked AFs by the box, predominantly Chateaus (nat. & mad.) and Rothschilds. When I wanted to splurge, I bought Hemi. Short Stories ($60 a box back then).

When the Opus line came out, we were all excited. I bought my limit of 2 on a couple of occasions to get some in my humidor. I smoked a few ROTT, but quite a few sat, their price was such that I was smoking these for special occasions. Their taste was always different, usually good, but sometimes lackluster.

But it was the construction that caused more grief - I have never had cigars that burn as erratically as the Opus. I am not talking a little run, but issues that need constant attention and thereby seriously detract from the enjoyment of the cigar. Even the ones I have had recently have had such issues. I had a 3 yr. old Power Ranger that was seriously giving me the WOW factor during the first inch & a half, but then developed a 1/2 - 3/4 inch run that would not take any correction, even when putting it down and allowing it to go out and lighting only the un-run side. I got about 4 puff and the run was again off to the races.

Anyway, the Opus line came out near the end of the boom years ('97). With all the Don's coming out of the woodwork trying to sell their $15 wonder-sticks to cigar snobs who wouldn't know a Cremosa from a Camacho, I think they lost a bit of their market share. There were rumors that they also lost some of their rollers. It is a definite fact that they tobacco that they were purchasing was now being snatched up by all these "Donnie-come-lately" companies and so they had to pay more for tobacco that probably wasn't as good.

It was during those boom years that we watched AF prices sky-rocket. And, something happened to the blends, they were not the same - and still are not to this day.

Today, my personal favorites in their normal lines are the Sun Growns, although the Rothschilds with their Cameroon wrapper are quite tasty, just harder to find. I still enjoy the Hemingways, but the price has more than doubled (and my salary hasn't), and they are not the flavor bombs they used to be. The construction, burn, and quality are impeccable with all their regular production lines, even the new Rosadas (excellent smokes), which has always been the case.

Of all the AFs, the Anejos however are stell the creme de la creme in my book.

All said and done, I love my Fuentes. There are always a few in my humidor. It is that time of the year now to look for deals on Anejos. AND, I will continue to try the Opus line. Like I said, I have a few the have been gifted to me in the last few years that have taken up abode in the bottom tetris row in my igloodor. I will reach for them to reevaluate again when the time is right. I really, really, really want to enjoy them.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

RevSmoke 11-22-2010 06:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1069888)
My first "premium hand-rolled" cigar was a Chateau Fuente in the fall of 1980. I smoked AFs by the box, predominantly Chateaus (nat. & mad.) and Rothschilds. When I wanted to splurge, I bought Hemi. Short Stories ($60 a box back then).

When the Opus line came out, we were all excited. I bought my limit of 2 on a couple of occasions to get some in my humidor. I smoked a few ROTT, but quite a few sat, their price was such that I was smoking these for special occasions. Their taste was always different, usually good, but sometimes lackluster.

But it was the construction that caused more grief - I have never had cigars that burn as erratically as the Opus. I am not talking a little run, but issues that need constant attention and thereby seriously detract from the enjoyment of the cigar. Even the ones I have had recently have had such issues. I had a 3 yr. old Power Ranger that was seriously giving me the WOW factor during the first inch & a half, but then developed a 1/2 - 3/4 inch run that would not take any correction, even when putting it down and allowing it to go out and lighting only the un-run side. I got about 4 puff and the run was again off to the races.

Anyway, the Opus line came out near the end of the boom years ('97). With all the Don's coming out of the woodwork trying to sell their $15 wonder-sticks to cigar snobs who wouldn't know a Cremosa from a Camacho, I think they lost a bit of their market share. There were rumors that they also lost some of their rollers. It is a definite fact that they tobacco that they were purchasing was now being snatched up by all these "Donnie-come-lately" companies and so they had to pay more for tobacco that probably wasn't as good.

It was during those boom years that we watched AF prices sky-rocket. And, something happened to the blends, they were not the same - and still are not to this day.

Today, my personal favorites in their normal lines are the Sun Growns, although the Rothschilds with their Cameroon wrapper are quite tasty, just harder to find. I still enjoy the Hemingways, but the price has more than doubled (and my salary hasn't), and they are not the flavor bombs they used to be. The construction, burn, and quality are impeccable with all their regular production lines, even the new Rosadas (excellent smokes), which has always been the case.

Of all the AFs, the Anejos however are stell the creme de la creme in my book.

All said and done, I love my Fuentes. There are always a few in my humidor. It is that time of the year now to look for deals on Anejos. AND, I will continue to try the Opus line. Like I said, I have a few the have been gifted to me in the last few years that have taken up abode in the bottom tetris row in my igloodor. I will reach for them to reevaluate again when the time is right. I really, really, really want to enjoy them.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Jeez oh petes, what a long-winded blow-hard.

klipsch 11-22-2010 09:14 AM

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I've got a draw full of Opus, all with more than a years age on em. I don't typically smoke them, but when I pull one out it's always great. I do have an OR Dbl Corona in there that I'll most likely never smoke *hint...hint...*

cricky101 11-22-2010 09:27 AM

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I think I've traded/bombed/given away more Opus than I've smoked myself, but the few I had didn't do too much for me. Not bad at all, but there are other flavor profiles I prefer. Now the Anejos, those I love!

icehog3 11-22-2010 10:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by klipsch (Post 1070018)
I've got a draw full of Opus, all with more than a years age on em.

Is that an Opus in your drawers, Walt, or are you just happy to see me? :D

floydpink 11-22-2010 10:34 AM

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personally, I love Opus X's, but won't go out of my way to get them.

I'm lucky to have a nice guy at the B&M near me that allows me as many as I want for msrp and normally carries a good stock.

More often than not, I will reach for a Don Carlos before an Opus if I'm spending that much money on a single.

Ol' Times Cigars 11-22-2010 10:45 AM

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Its a case of different smokes for different folks. Plenty of our customers love the Opus line but over the years they have become more available, atleast in our area. As they have become more available I have heard more and more people turn away from them. A lot of say they just don't do it for them anymore and that they feel like they have changed over the years. Then again more cigars have come out that have been receiving great ratings and peoples tastes change so the Opus doesn't seem as popular as it used to be. I used to sell out in about a week or two and now I have about 15 boxes in stock, with about 5 left over from the last shipment.

I would say if you haven't tried one and you get the chance then try one, you may miss out on something you like. Just don't pay more than $20 for one. If you don't like it atleast you tried one and found out.

floydpink 11-22-2010 11:01 AM

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Funny that Ol Times should reply, they are the only store in my area I have ever seen carry Opus at msrp and never gouge the customer.

They are the store I was referring to.

JJG 11-22-2010 11:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 1070125)

I'm lucky to have a nice guy at the B&M near me that allows me as many as I want for msrp and normally carries a good stock.

same here, I have a shop near me that gets a ton every year. They're not the absolute cheapest I've seen, but not too bad either, $12-16 usually.

I suppose if I had to pay $20+ or drive all over town to get them, I would probably be a little disappointed too.

Ol' Times Cigars 11-22-2010 12:43 PM

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The Anejos on the other hand are a smoke that won't disappoint. We just got some in, hopefully we will see more but you never know. You should see them popping up at your local shops but they go quick. If you haven't tried that one it is worth it, but they are much harder to find.

Pete,
Thanks for the support and the good words.

Doctorossi 11-22-2010 12:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Times Cigars (Post 1070311)
The Anejos on the other hand are a smoke that won't disappoint.

I love 'em both. :sh

Ol' Times Cigars 11-22-2010 12:53 PM

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So do I, but I have yet to hear a complaint about the Anejos.

Doctorossi 11-22-2010 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol' Times Cigars (Post 1070321)
So do I, but I have yet to hear a complaint about the Anejos.

I certainly agree that the Anejos are probably more likely to appeal to a wider audience.


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