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Minny is now 1-3, Farve looks like his December worst already, and now there are pictures of him holding his hog circulating the net with a potential suspension looming.

Randy Moss or not, I don't see him finishing this year.

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I see rainbows to Moss as why he DOES finish the year. The self-absorbed, narcissist cares only about the TDs he throws and seemingly not at all about the picks. The national media reverentially refers to him as a "gunslinger" -- a more apt moniker would be "dream killer".

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When my wife found the pictures online, "I didn't know Farve was Irish" :r

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Between the dope smoker and the octogenarian I don't really care if they become the LA Drag Queens.
The Vikings are perennial annoyances to any fans that have hope they will ever hold the Lombardi, and they never will.

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If Farve sits down, what's the Vikes option? Byron Leftwich? :r
The Vikings organization is committed to spending big money to win, or at least to put asses in seats.
Do I think Farve/Moss is the answer? I don't think anyone does. Brett went 60 yards downfield to Moss last night, and that's likely the longest ball he's gonna throw for the rest of his life.
You can't "buy" a football team, you gotta build one. If the Vikes spent all that money on building a club, chasing some young studs and making some smart moves, they'd be truly dangerous.
Farve wants to play ball, and someone wants to pay him 26 million to do it this year. I don't see him sitting down unless he gets busted in half.

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I didn't see much of last nights game, but the parts i did see it doesn't look like Farve can throw the deep ball to Moss to make him affective. 5 shots into his ankle already? I think that he's done!!! Now I don't know what the "shots" are that he's getting but being in the medical field, that can't be good!!!!!

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Most likely cortisone, I have had several in my elbows and shoulders over the last few years. They are just a band-aid that wears off in a couple of months.

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If he's upright...he'll finish the year. He's had injuries every season in the league, it seems. There was the one year he played with a broken thumb on his throwing hand. His year with the Jets playing about half a year with a torn tendon in his throwing arm.

Honestly, the biggest obstacle for this team is the head coach. I've been saying this for Chili's entire tenure here. I don't see him as having what it takes to be able to bring a team to the promised land. Look at how they started the game last night. That HAS to be the most unprepared I have ever seen a team coming out of a bye week to a big game (or any game, honestly). THAT, my friends, is on the coaching staff. They seemed completely unprepared to come out and play. That had nothing to do with Donglegate or the addition of Moss to the Vikes. I'm of the opinion that they did well last year despite Childress, not because of him. He's generally a horrible coach at making adjustments, and gets outcoached on a regular basis, IMO.

As for Faereeevervarvervarveravrevravervarve and his ankle, it's not 100%. How could it be at his age, with the beating he's taken over the years. The injections are not a painkiller, but a series of lubricant injections to help keep what little range of motion he has left. What exactly were those injections? I'm not sure, but it was supposed to help keep movement possible there.

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If it is the lubrication shots, its a product like SynVisc or Supparts. I've tried both, neither worked for me. They are a made of chicken goo. People can have severe reactions to them, particularly if they are allergic to poultry. :tu

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Favre's too proud to retire, but I'd wager he doesn't finish the year.
Injury or suspension ends his career before the season is half over. :2

Love the player, hate the person he's become.

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Become? I'd argue that he's the same person he's always been.

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I agree completely.
It's easy to get the media mixed up with the ballplayer. While he might come out and suck some days, you're gonna get 1000% out of him every single game.
I said it before and I'll say it again...
Brett Farve will be able to outgame most of the quarterbacks in this league 20 years from now, in his hoveround.

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You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Your statement is such an easy one to let ramble, but couldn't be further from the truth.

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LOL, this I can't necessarily agree with either though! :r

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ator/Judas.jpg

Let's keep the discussion about the topic. Leave the personal jabs out of it.
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I was disappointed with last night's game. They should not take this long to find a groove. Our defense is STELLAR. Holding the Jets to ZERO TD's with how long they held the football? But the Jets did tame Jared Allen.

Running game is decent.

Percy Harvin + Moss + Rice would be a real contender.

Are all the pieces there? Yep. Just need to put them together. My .02.

I have NO idea why they didn't put Moss in motion ONCE.

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Let me clarify.

Used to be a loveable hick.

Now he's just a self-absorbed d*ck.

Maybe he always was and my eyes were glossed over all his years in GB. :sh

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I dont see him lasting all season, did you see him holding his elbow.
That tendennidis is going to flare up the more and more games he plays.
The Vikings sold their soul for Brett Favre to come back, and its going to be all for nothing!

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Ya gotta admit.... he makes it fun to watch. Its like a train speeding towards trouble. Sometimes it makes it through to the cheering adulation, sometimes its crash and burn. (Interceptions) In either case it keeps you watching.

Brutal schedule for the Packers coming up. Should be interesting. Maybe if they had a world class running back to hand off to occasionally..... :D

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ROFLMAO, where's the personal jab? My comment was 100% on topic.

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I was going to go for "sado-masochistic pick tosser," but I digress.

"You obviously have no clue what you are talking about."
Sounds to me like a comment on the poster.
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I think the point was that everyone is allowed an opinion without being told "they have no clue what they're talking about."
I know Vin pretty good. I'm absolutely certain he has a real good clue about everything he's talking about.
If I disagreed with him, I'd ask him why he thought that way, because I'd value his input, and appreciate his insight. It's probably a more respectful way to handle a disagreement, whatever it may be.

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And this was on topic?

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Or this was on topic?

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I guess I just have thicker skin, or don't need anybody else to stand up for me. If someone says I have no clue what I'm talking about, I can handle that cause I'm a man. I don't need someone else to fight my battles.

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You know why they may not be able to get all the pieces to work well together? COACHING!!! I have said it hundreds of times that Chili as a head coach will NOT get them the rings they want. Frazier as HC might. They decisions and playcalling and gameplan pretty much suck from week to week.

The running game is better than decent...they just don't run enough. AP has only 18 carries in a game where it was a slog fest in the first half? Are you f'in kidding me? Run your horse!!! He's one of the top 2 backs in the game! Use the running game to open up the passing game!

As for the D, I'll borrow a take that I've heard...Allen disappears against the top tackles. Ferguson essentially ate him up last night. He will terrorize the weaker tackles, but the best of the best have very little trouble with him it seems. I'd expect him to be able to beat one of them occasionally. However, he DOES make plays down the line and has chased things down from the backside, so I won't completely rake him over the coals on this one. But for the kind of $ he's making and his reputation...

Why not put Moss in motion? He has no idea what the terminology and anything else they'll need him to do is. Look at the routes they had him running: flys. posts, post corners...essentially all deep routes. Once he actually learns the offense and has a better grip on what's going on on the plays, they'll be able to move him around and utilize his talents even more. think about this...even with his limited knowledge of the O and 2 TOP CBs on the opponent, he still had 80yds and a score. Plus, how his presence opened up the middle for Harvin. I hope that we'll see things open up more for Shiancoe as defenses try to keep an eye on Harvin AND Moss.

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LOL...I forgot about that on your bike, Wade!

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Agreed, hell, Moss only had three days to get some limited knowledge of the offense. He's never worked in a west coast offense, it'll take some time.

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LOL, it's just vinyl decals and will come off when his name/# are put in the Packers ring of fame. But for now...

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No one is fighting anyone else's battles, the Mods try to keep comments relevant to topics (even if it is insulting Brett Favre) and not about insulting other members.

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Agree completely. I was understating the "decent" running game lol. And I agree that the largest area for improvement is the coaching.

As far as Moss, I think he's a great receiver, and just don't like to see him used as a decoy. I get the idea behind it, though. Obviously, as the case was with the Harvin TD pass.

Agreed. For some reason I completely dismissed the fact that he had so little time to learn new plays/strategies.

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In my own self-absorbed way I hope Favre makes it all the way through this season. I've said since his bullshit prima donna pre-season behavior that he wasn't going to lead the Vikings anywhere but down this season. As a Bear fan this comes in handy to only have two teams that matter in the NFC North.

However I don't think his body is going to hold up. One more good shot to that ankle like he got from the Bears at the end of last season and it's doneski.

Plus he isn't bright enough to realize that taking pictures of your junk only impresses 13 year old girls and possibly 5% of the female population over the age of 18. Flag on the play.

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And as I said, my comment was on topic. I could care less if someone insults Brendt Farve, I have no relations to him, however my comment was correct, the person who I first quoted has no clue as to what he's talking about if he feels that Farve really is only concerned with himself and his records. As much as I loathe Brendt for going to the Vikings, his passion for the game is purely based on winning, period. I DJ a tailgate party at Brett Favres Steakhouse for every home game and more private parties for the Packers than I can count. I've had a great number of conversations with #4 in the past and would call him a friend, as he would me. In no way shape or form is his motivation personal or record related. So yes, in this situation, the person I quoted has no clue as to what the hell he's talking about...although he is entitled to his opinion.

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Well...against many other teams when running that play, it won't be a simple decoy. He can and WILL be open deep on that route, but if the defense can actually take it away from them (as NY did on that particular play), then Harvin underneath (or Shiancoe) is the money route. Sometimes you gotta design plays to clear areas for other players, like that one, and depending on how it's play, what you expect to be covered may actually be open. That's the beauty of having a player like Moss. And with how many times they tried to actually throw to him on the "go" route, I didn't see him being a decoy all that often.

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1) Packers

who's the second team? :r

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They gonna have any healthy players to use? :p

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100% in agreement. Favre threw to Moss plenty, but Cromartie covered him like a warm blanket. Moss drawing double coverage is just as good as Moss catching the ball. Shianco is a freakin' stud and will benefit from Randy being on the team.

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LOL, so I guess that leaves 0 teams for the Bears to worry about this season in the NFC North.

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As the Mods are entitled to have conditions they expect members to adhere to on the board. ;)

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Well if my comment was really that bad of an offense, then they have it pretty freakin' easy here now don't they?!

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Usually, unless some person just doesn't get it.

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As I said...

Now just go back to your 13th banter. Sorry if that was offensive.

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Whether Favray is a "Judas" or "a friend" is interesting, yet he's 4 games in and already feeling hits pretty hard. Simply a matter of time, physics, and physiology, (and some would say injected shark piss, hormones, roids, and voodoo dolls) before the inevitable.


Oh, note to self: Take the railroad spike out of the voodoo dolls ankle... "Wrangler cain't ride with a frozen ankle".....

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Nice reference! :banger

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I guess I will post and moderate wherever I see fit. :r

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...and I will post wherever you moderate and have a fit. ;)

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I don't think Favre will be back next year.

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http://a.abcnews.com/images/WNT/abc_..._070924_mn.jpg

Sorry, carry on...

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Seems like the orderlies have not been handing out meds on schedule around here lately.:rolleyes: