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Hoosierguy 07-26-2010 04:25 PM

Buried cigars?
 
I live on a slab with no air conditioning. That means that the temps in my house in the summer are not good for storing cigars. Today, I came up with a great (but possibly crazy) idea that I wanted to run past y'all.

I'm thinking about digging a four foot deep hole and inserting an 8" diameter PVC pipe. I would then hang a travel caddy humidor inside the pipe at the depth needed to acheive 68-70 degrees. The top of the pipe would be capped and locked!

Does this seem totally crazy or like a fun and functional weekend project?

The cigars would only spend the hot summer months in the pipe. The others, they would spend in my house at 70*+-.

I need some encouragement/help to move forward.:rolleyes:

longknocker 07-26-2010 04:28 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoosierguy (Post 929455)
I live on a slab with no air conditioning. That means that the temps in my house in the summer are not good for storing cigars. Today, I came up with a great (but possibly crazy) idea that I wanted to run past y'all.

I'm thinking about digging a four foot deep hole and inserting an 8" diameter PVC pipe. I would then hang a travel caddy humidor inside the pipe at the depth needed to acheive 68-70 degrees. The top of the pipe would be capped and locked!

Does this seem totally crazy or like a fun and functional weekend project?

The cigars would only spend the hot summer months in the pipe. The others, they would spend in my house at 70*+-.

I need some encouragement/help to move forward.:rolleyes:

Sounds Interesting, But what do I know?:r GL!:tu

MajorCaptSilly 07-26-2010 04:33 PM

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I'm gonna say that's kinda crazy. For someone whose name is MajorCaptSilly to say it's crazy, it's pretty crazy. I say buy a cooler and put it in the coolest part of your house. It will insulate the contents from much of the heat on the outside and will also help regulate humidity. Remember, it only gets dangerous if the temp of your humidor gets above 80 degrees. I would also recommend freezing your cigars to kill off any beetles.

MCS

md4958 07-26-2010 04:42 PM

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I would love to encourage you, but it seems like a helluva lotta work to store a small amount of cigars. If youre gonna be storing less than a dozen cigars, I dont really think you have to worry about the temps. Freezing can help any beetle concerns, and if youre storing a lot more cigars you may want to consider a Vinotemp type unit.

If you search Freezing or Vinotemp here Im sure youll find a ton of info on it.

neoflex 07-26-2010 04:44 PM

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Hmmm, 12 posts which means your new here. If you plan on sticking around and following through with your plan I say make the hole 8ft wide not 8". We are a bad influence and soon your collection will outgrow an 8" hole.:r
To stay on topic, I think your plan is pretty drastic. May want to do a search for Vino. May be a more practical solution.

Commander Quan 07-26-2010 04:50 PM

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If you are just talking about a small amount of cigars, like the amount you can fit into a caddy, I say just smoke them. They'll be fine.

Thread Jack//
Does anyone remember the guy at the other site who wanted to test the long term effects of aging, and wanted to bury a cooler in his yard filled with cigars and a hose running to the surface for fresh air?

E-Tx Surveyor 07-26-2010 04:51 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Burying them seems somewhat drastic. I would go with a vino if the funds permit, if they don't I would explore other options first.

I don't know if this would work, if it's a small enough number why not go with a small tupperware in the fridge with beads?

massphatness 07-26-2010 04:52 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Would there be dynamite involved? Your plan would be really cool with some dynamite to create the hole.

Or a Vino. But that's nowhere near as awe-inspiring.
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icehog3 07-26-2010 04:54 PM

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Bury 'em. Bury 'em all, I say. That would be the coolest thing ever...well, except for that thing MajorCaptSilly did once.

longknocker 07-26-2010 04:56 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
I'm Still Interested in the concept! Wouldn't want to go to too much trouble or ruin any good cigars, though.:)

longknocker 07-26-2010 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 929493)
Bury 'em. Bury 'em all, I say. That would be the coolest thing ever...well, except for that thing MajorCaptSilly did once.

Glad someone's with me!:banger

Hoosierguy 07-26-2010 05:18 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Well, I do want to bury more than 10. I've quickly found out that I can save some money buying samplers. So, I would be storing 20-40 (probably).

If I do it, I'll be sure to post pictures. That's for sure!

waffle 07-26-2010 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoosierguy (Post 929519)
Well, I do want to bury more than 10. I've quickly found out that I can save some money buying samplers. So, I would be storing 20-40 (probably).

If I do it, I'll be sure to post pictures. That's for sure!

The biggest concern I see is seepage from ground water... in Indiana, typically they say groundwater is about 30" below surface (also freeze line). You have to seriously consider the issues there.... but other than that, from a guy thats spent lots of time in large sewer pipe, your smoke will love the cool ;)

Hoosierguy 07-26-2010 05:42 PM

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Water tight is not a problem. Solvent glued will take care of that.
The structure of choice has yet to be determined. I will work on it this Thursday.

Let me know if you have any suggestions!

Prozac_Puros 07-26-2010 05:52 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 929491)
Would there be dynamite involved? Your plan would be really cool with some dynamite to create the hole.

Or a Vino. But that's nowhere near as awe-inspiring.
Posted via Mobile Device


I vote with Vin, Blow something up..... Oh and take pics





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dwoodward 07-26-2010 05:54 PM

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Guy 1: Want a cigar man?
Guy 2: Yeah sure
Guy 1: Hold on I gotta go dig them up outta my backyard.
Guy 2: Okay... Wait.. What?!

jonumberone 07-26-2010 06:11 PM

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Am I the only one wondering, what else he's got buried in the backyard? :lv

Emjaysmash 07-26-2010 06:22 PM

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5Ug-IbdVhb...uter-banks.jpg

dwoodward 07-26-2010 06:33 PM

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http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...1687360480.jpg

:r:r:r

whodeeni 07-26-2010 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 929611)

:r:r:r


Sounds a little drastic brotha... why don't you check craigslist, and a couple
of other sites.... It's been 90+ The whole damn summer down here and
all of my cigars are fine! You can even use an old beverage/dorm style
refrigerator (leave it unplugged and get you some humidity beads and be well
on your way!

It sounds as though you're an engineer of sorts, and this is something you're
bent on doing so good luck my friend!:tu

rhmalone 07-26-2010 07:12 PM

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What the hay right, it's friggin' IN in the middle of summer... why not. But seriously call before you dig!

rhmalone 07-26-2010 07:13 PM

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Where in IN are you from... just wondering?

darkleeroy 07-26-2010 07:36 PM

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Go the whole nine yards, buy a box, seal the pvc with proper humidification and bury them 2 yards deep for 10 years. Then be presently surprised in the future. It's a herf capsule!!!

If you want easy access to them but have a way to keep them from getting too hot, I'd just start a coolerdor, it's not terribly expensive.

Hoosierguy 07-26-2010 07:45 PM

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Hey, where are you guys buying your beads?

BC-Axeman 07-26-2010 07:59 PM

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I second the freeze them and put them in a cooler suggestion and also the 8 ft. dia. hole suggestion. You could bury one of those plastic water tanks.

dwoodward 07-26-2010 08:07 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoosierguy (Post 929716)
Hey, where are you guys buying your beads?

There are two general ones that most people around here use..

http://shilalasbeads.com/
or
http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/

I have been using Shilala's beads and for the last two weeks my humidity has been rock solid at 67%. (I charged them before use slightly as per the instructions on the website to raise the RH a bit, I like my cigars a little moist.)

bobarian 07-26-2010 08:11 PM

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WTF???????:confused:


Why would you want to do this? Seems like 3 days in the freezer is a whole lot easier than digging a frickin hole! But if you must be sure and take some pics.

gvarsity 07-26-2010 08:12 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 929486)
If you are just talking about a small amount of cigars, like the amount you can fit into a caddy, I say just smoke them. They'll be fine.

Thread Jack//
Does anyone remember the guy at the other site who wanted to test the long term effects of aging, and wanted to bury a cooler in his yard filled with cigars and a hose running to the surface for fresh air?

When I first read this I immediately back to that thread. He put down a bunch of cigars in like a footlocker or something planning on 10+ years of aging or something. Definitely pretty extreme.

Wharf Rat 07-26-2010 08:20 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Do you have a house built on a slab? If so, the slab should be relatively cool. Put the humidor on the slab and a Styrofoam picnic cooler over it.

Skywalker 07-26-2010 08:31 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
I say get some balloons or a hot air balloon and float them up high where the air is much cooler!!!;)
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-conte...onlihouett.jpg

groogs 07-26-2010 08:43 PM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
I used to live in an apartment that got up to 90 during the summer. I bought a 150qt cooler and put my humidors in the cooler. I also put an ice pack wraped in a towel in the cooler and changed it daily. Doing that will keep your cigars cool without sucking all the humidy out of the air. It worked pretty well, and then I filled the cooler with cigars, and had to buy a house with AC. It may sound crazy, but so does digging a hole in the back yard for your cigars.

The best advice in my opinion is to freeze them and move on.:tu

T.G 07-26-2010 09:05 PM

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Burying cigars, like a squirrel buries nuts?


http://i12.tinypic.com/4zch639.jpg

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...

bscottskangum 07-26-2010 09:09 PM

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Doesn't Drew Estate already do this....hence the Drew Estate Natural Dirt

Seriously tho, get a cooler

SaltyMcGee 07-26-2010 09:46 PM

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My friend, if you stay around here long enough, I guarantee that you will soon need to figure out storage for many more cigars than 20-40. I'm with John, get yourself an insulated cooler (bigger than what you think you need here), throw your 20-40 cigars in there and put it in the absolute coolest part of the house.
Then be prepared to buy another cooler!:D

SaltyMcGee 07-26-2010 09:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 929830)
http://i12.tinypic.com/4zch639.jpg

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...

:r:r:r:r

whodeeni 07-27-2010 05:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltyMcGee (Post 929877)
:r:r

:tpd: x 10!:tu

mosesbotbol 07-27-2010 05:42 AM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Most the cigar producing countries are well above 70 all summer long. Many lack air conditioning yet the cigars are fine.

Hoosierguy 07-27-2010 06:20 AM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wharf Rat (Post 929760)
Do you have a house built on a slab? If so, the slab should be relatively cool. Put the humidor on the slab and a Styrofoam picnic cooler over it.

It's been a hot summer, and my slab is at a constant 80 degrees. If I'm going to have money in cigars, I don't want to worry about them. I'm good at worrying and a couple of hours in the backyard will be worth the trouble. Actually, it will be fun!

I'm used to cellar temps for wine and beer, so it makes sense that cigars would prefer those temps over the 80-90s of July and August.

The plan, so far, is to use a 4' long section of 8 or 12" dia. pvc with a solvent weld cap on the end. Dig a hole and insert. I'll figure out a locking cap or maybe just use a screw cap and hope that none of the local cigar smoking kids find my stash!

I will talk with a local supplier of pvc, etc. today. I may opt for a larger diameter pipe if it makes sense.

Texan in Mexico 07-27-2010 07:13 AM

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So yesterday I read this thread and when I saw MCS say it was a silly idea I thought to myself,

"Self? There is no way this is going any farther, I mean the local authority on all things silly has deemed this one sillier than a monkey on a rock wearing a tin oil hat eating banana cream pie!"

So I buried the memory of my Momīs family burying jarred unripened corn mash in the Army ammo cans sealed with cosmoline three feet down during the hot Mississippi summers for the same reason.

Will it work? If you seal correctly and keep the sticks in a water resistant packaging yeah it will work.

Is it worth 36 hours of digging, putting it together, burying and sealing?

Well, that depends on what kind of man you are!

Ha ha ha, Iīm sorry, I just think this would be a very cool project although it would probably end up being more economical and efficient with a cooler and some beads however it would be something that hasnt been done here yet.

Best of luck and please let us know how it goes, I hope there arent too many rocks in your yard!

Respectfully,

Travis

elderboy02 07-27-2010 07:18 AM

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This is going to be cool to watch :)

icehog3 07-27-2010 07:36 AM

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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...ehog3/Toga.jpg

kaisersozei 07-27-2010 07:44 AM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
If it's good enough for kimchee, it's good enough for.... oh, wait. :pu

Actually, I say go for it. :tu You'll have your own little cigar cellar. This will be fun to watch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker (Post 929775)
I say get some balloons or a hot air balloon and float them up high where the air is much cooler!!!;)

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Skywalker again.

HK3- 07-27-2010 07:45 AM

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Don't forget to make yourself a pirates treasure map... just in case something happens and one of us gotta go dig this thing up. -(P

Hoosierguy 07-27-2010 07:46 AM

Re: Buried cigars?
 
I won't let nay-sayers get me down and keep me from completing this highly important project. That said, I DO appreciate any support I can get.

I've got a friendly supplier of pvc, etc. looking into options for me.

longknocker 07-27-2010 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 930150)
This is going to be cool to watch :)

Pics!:banger:tu

shilala 07-27-2010 07:55 AM

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Why don't you build a root cellar? Then you can keep your beer, wine, canned stuff, garden stuff, cigars, everything in there?
Up here in PA everyone used to have a root cellar before the days of basements. It's how they kept everything fresh and cool.

BC-Axeman 07-27-2010 08:01 AM

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I think you will be better off burying a small cooler or some other pre-made container. No fumes to worry about. Do you have high groundwater? What about a root cellar, like in the old days? A lot more digging, to be sure, but more useful. You could make a locking lid for it.

edit: HA! Scott beat me to it while I was proofreading.

Commander Quan 07-27-2010 08:12 AM

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If you are going to dig a hole, I say go all the way like Oak Island

Hoosierguy 07-27-2010 08:23 AM

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Actually, for years I have considered installing a tornado (bomb) shelter. This would be a buried septic tank with stairs and nice hatch. Yes, this or a root celar would do the trick but would cost me some big bucks.

I've been reading the "How to Freeze" thread and am now feeling more justified with my buried cigs idea.

nofeardiver 07-27-2010 08:47 AM

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just pick up a cheap vino or equivalent wine cooler on ebay or craig's list... i agree if you are new you will out grow fast...


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